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18th March 2016, 10:51 AM
#71
Great thread thanks for all the pics & build tips.
This thread will give many confidence to tackle this job.
Its not a hard job just time consuming agree some tools and patience is needed.
Not being picky,(did I miss something) the swivel preload check is done before the rear wiper seals are fitted correct ?.
Again, great pics n thread.
Now I've read whole thread I see you go by feel,ok.
When I did it the first time I did the same used original shims nice n smooth, but thought what the heck, check it any way.
It was out and needed adjusting, so long ago cant remember how much but it was to loose.
I think you've done a fantastic job, just putting it out there.
I always read your input and consider your advice invaluable.
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18th March 2016 10:51 AM
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18th March 2016, 11:51 AM
#72
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Originally Posted by
oddkid82
Hey. I am wanting to do this rebuild in the next few months. What are good brands of kits to get and where to get them.
Been looking on ebay, are the drivetech 4x4 ones any good. They use the toyo bearings.
Hi mate, i like the Terrain Tamer Kit personally but as long as the kit you buy has ALL the parts you need then go for it. i'd recommend installing wheel bearings while your there too for sure.
Originally Posted by
Robo
Great thread thanks for all the pics & build tips.
This thread will give many confidence to tackle this job.
Its not a hard job just time consuming agree some tools and patience is needed.
Not being picky,(did I miss something) the swivel preload check is done before the rear wiper seals are fitted correct ?.
Again, great pics n thread.
Now I've read whole thread I see you go by feel,ok.
When I did it the first time I did the same used original shims nice n smooth, but thought what the heck, check it any way.
It was out and needed adjusting, so long ago cant remember how much but it was to loose.
I think you've done a fantastic job, just putting it out there.
I always read your input and consider your advice invaluable.
Cheers Robo, yeah to be honest i just do the tension for the king pin bearing by feel. Not ideal, most comments you read online say refit the existing spacers back where they came from, I can clearly see the floors in this argument but do it anyway. As an exercise i should certainly set up the spring rate checker as described in the Manual and see where it all sits for sure. Have you by chance got any pics of when you did your check? keen to see how you did it.
Cheers MR
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Originally Posted by
Rogue Dung Beetle
Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
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19th March 2016, 03:19 PM
#73
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Originally Posted by
MudRunnerTD
Hi mate, i like the Terrain Tamer Kit personally but as long as the kit you buy has ALL the parts you need then go for it. i'd recommend installing wheel bearings while your there too
I gave terrain tamer a call for a price, a bit more expensive than the ones I was looking at. Hmmm decisions decisions.
Ps love the thread. Its going to help a lot
Last edited by MudRunnerTD; 19th March 2016 at 08:33 PM.
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19th March 2016, 08:57 PM
#74
Originally Posted by
MudRunnerTD
Hi mate, i like the Terrain Tamer Kit personally but as long as the kit you buy has ALL the parts you need then go for it. i'd recommend installing wheel bearings while your there too for sure.
Cheers Robo, yeah to be honest i just do the tension for the king pin bearing by feel. Not ideal, most comments you read online say refit the existing spacers back where they came from, I can clearly see the floors in this argument but do it anyway. As an exercise i should certainly set up the spring rate checker as described in the Manual and see where it all sits for sure. Have you by chance got any pics of when you did your check? keen to see how you did it.
Cheers MR
Cheers MR, na mate I haven't any pics .
Did the passengers side last night.
This time the original factory fitted (I assume) shims of 2x .0127mm, was tighter than spec by about 1 kg.
little weird that a .254 wasn't fitted instead, but guess removing again was a waste of time in motion for the fitter.
I use an adjustable pull scale in kg, they can be zeroed also a very useful feature which help accuracy.
I have an laboratory bench scale at work which I tested mine against for accuracy, came up trumps.
I did it it 3 steps.
1st -- 1ea top n bottom oem fitted .0127 shim, measured 3.5 kg resistance.
2nd-- + .127 top n bottom again and this reduced it to 2.5 kg.
3rd-- 1ea x new .254mm + new .075mm came in about 1.85 kg.
I settled on that.
3.5kg felt by hand to tight to me.
1.85kg bit over spec, but I'm happy with, so left at that.
Reason I didn't try for lower towards factory spec, it also felt smooth to pull by hand from a stand still, not a "jerk" to get it to move,
where 2.5kg & above felt to stiff at start of movement.
cheers Robo
Tip -- if ya don't want to change the diff oil.
jack 1 side at a time & air down the opposite side if needed, worked for me.
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23rd March 2016, 03:04 AM
#75
Took some pics while doing the drivers side.
Not many I'm flat out trying to get ready for easter hols.
Pre tested the drivers side to see where it actually was before repair.
Removed the spindle & CV but left the wiper seals on and it gave a reading of 200 grams, so it's completely worn out yeah!.
Recon the reading was only the actual weight of hub N seals @ 200g
Coming apart DSCF7943.JPG.
Pressing swivels off DSCF7933.JPG.
Ready to grease DSCF7942.JPG.
Greased DSCF7941.JPG.
Pull resistance test DSCF7958.JPG.
DSCF7957.JPG
The pull test was using the original shims of .5mm & this gave 950 grams resistance.
This setting of 950g felt way to light to me by hand, yes it's within specs of .5 to 1.5kg ,
Reduced shims and settled on 1.55 kg.
sum up 1 side was completely out using old shims and the other was within spec.
Maybe it's just a case by case basis.
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17th July 2016, 01:59 PM
#76
What a great write up. Just finished this job. Without the detailed pics and explanation I don't think I would have even attempted this job.
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17th July 2016, 02:39 PM
#77
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Originally Posted by
daggy
What a great write up. Just finished this job. Without the detailed pics and explanation I don't think I would have even attempted this job.
That's awesome mate, glad it gave you confidence. Cheers for the feedback.
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Originally Posted by
Rogue Dung Beetle
Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
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18th July 2016, 04:07 PM
#78
SUCH IS LIFE
I need some help with this bugger Daz, any ideas? Lol
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18th July 2016, 04:55 PM
#79
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Originally Posted by
Nisshead
I need some help with this bugger Daz, any ideas? Lol
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18th July 2016, 09:13 PM
#80
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Originally Posted by
nisshead
i need some help with this bugger daz, any ideas? Lol
….................... On the move
epic!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by
Rogue Dung Beetle
Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.
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