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    Incorrectly set or dodgy load sensing valve can have an effect on braking performance.
    Insufficient or intermittent vacuum will definitely have the effect on braking pressure application as pressure loss/assist will affect the outcome.
    Incorrect master cylinder will affect braking pressures. I wonder if you have correct one!

    Finally standard Y61 brakes except on 4.8L engined ones are chit! Generally softer pads will improve braking performance but wear out quicker.
    4.8 L brake pads (Nissan OEM) will fit to ZD30/TD42 brake calipers and they're an improvement.

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    We bled the brakes, putting about 3 litres through and then Nissan did the same. Having said that, we could only bleed one port on the ABS unit so there is still a chance that there is an airlock in that.

    The vacuum sounds more like a air pump than a steady vacuum and that could well be the culprit....

    I will remove the ABS fuse and see what that does....


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    I replaced the master cylinder with an OEM one.

    What is the load sensing valve and where is it?


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    with the poor braking, hows the pedal, firm? soft? high or low? will it lock wheels or at least trigger the abs if you nail the brakes suddenly? maybe remove the abs fuse and do a little test to see if it will actually lock the fronts if you slam on the brakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko17 View Post
    I replaced the master cylinder with an OEM one.

    What is the load sensing valve and where is it?


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    Rear diff where the brake line tees off for the rear wheels... it senses the vehicle load and proportions the amount of braking pressure between front to rear axles
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    Went through the same thing some time ago. Ended up being the LPV. Most brake "specialists" don't even know it is there. When I eventually bled it the brakes were much better but because it had not been bled since the Patrol was built the LPV was stuffed. I repleced it and the brakes are now perfect.

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    if you have raised suspension the lsv may not be portioning enough of the braking effort to the rear wheels . some suspension mobs make a plate that they sell as apart of their kits that lowers the valve to the correct position depending on the height of the lift ( I think arb-ome ) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko17 View Post
    What is the load sensing valve and where is it?

    From "Nissan Patrol Reference document" page 56
    WHAT IS I T – A TECHNICAL EXPLANATION
    A load sensing proportioning valve system for the hydraulic brake system of passenger cars and
    the like for varying the amount of brake fluid pressure and thus the braking torque at the rear
    brakes of a passenger car.

    It is located on the RHS above rear axle.....
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