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    Hey mate.

    You have a problem with NATS, more then likely the control module on the back of the injector pump.

    Do you always use the same key?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor View Post
    Hey mate.

    You have a problem with NATS, more then likely the control module on the back of the injector pump.

    Do you always use the same key?

    Hi Rodney,

    Yeah mate I only have 1 key. It is not a program key though. Mine has a separate fob.

    Just called the RACV and they are an hour away maybe
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    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    Hi Rodney,

    Yeah mate I only have 1 key. It is not a program key though. Mine has a separate fob.

    Just called the RACV and they are an hour away maybe
    The fob has nothing to do with NATS.

    In the black plastic part of the key is a chip. The NATS needs to receive the correct signal from this chip before the vehicle will start.

    I don't think this will be your problem because you only have one key.

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    Hi Yendor

    Yes mate i always use the same key, and as for little red flashing lights on top of the dash, i don't recall seeing one unless it's hidden under the dash matt, anyway i had to get the car towed home so now it's in the shed i will be able to check out the fuel system right through to eliminate that issue and look under the dash matt for red flashing lights and hope NATS is not the problem.
    One other thing is where is the fuel pump and is it electrical or mechanical as i have never had to deal with any fuel problems before, come to think of it i brought the car with approx 28K on the clock (now 210K)and never had any problems what so ever in the 14 years i have had it so i cannot complain, and thanks to everyone for the suggestions now it's in the shed i can have a proper look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo53 View Post
    Hi Yendor

    Yes mate i always use the same key, and as for little red flashing lights on top of the dash, i don't recall seeing one unless it's hidden under the dash matt, anyway i had to get the car towed home so now it's in the shed i will be able to check out the fuel system right through to eliminate that issue and look under the dash matt for red flashing lights and hope NATS is not the problem.
    One other thing is where is the fuel pump and is it electrical or mechanical as i have never had to deal with any fuel problems before, come to think of it i brought the car with approx 28K on the clock (now 210K)and never had any problems what so ever in the 14 years i have had it so i cannot complain, and thanks to everyone for the suggestions now it's in the shed i can have a proper look.
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    Yendor is no longer here mate. The fuel pump is on the drivers side of the motor under the power steering pump. It sounds like your NATS mate. The pump is mechanical and a significant job to remove and refit. As you read this thread I went at mine with a wood chisel mate!!!! A Very big deal!!

    There are a couple 9f other threads on the forum about the task of you have a search but fundamentally it is laid out here.

    The red LED light will be under your dash mat for sure basically directly in front of the driver.

    Read this thread a couple of times mate. Happy to chat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.

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    Thanks MuddRunnerTD

    I found the red flashing light, my dash matt has been on there forever and i completely forgot all about the flashing light under neath it, as yes it stays on if i am lucky to get the car started and i have two keys and tried them both with no change so it looks like i will be up for the big bash to fix my problem.
    You would think someone would make an exchange pump without the bullshit on it but knowing nothing about pumps i guess it's not that easy or cheap.
    Any way i will red through all these posts again and i might get the courage to attempt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo53 View Post
    Thanks MuddRunnerTD

    I found the red flashing light, my dash matt has been on there forever and i completely forgot all about the flashing light under neath it, as yes it stays on if i am lucky to get the car started and i have two keys and tried them both with no change so it looks like i will be up for the big bash to fix my problem.
    You would think someone would make an exchange pump without the bullshit on it but knowing nothing about pumps i guess it's not that easy or cheap.
    Any way i will red through all these posts again and i might get the courage to attempt it.
    Cheers Guys.
    Good luck mate. Yes I took some balls mate. A new pump from UFI is about $2700 plus fitting.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
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    Well Guys

    I took the big plunge and started on the injector pump this morning to get rid of the immobilizer crap and i am glad for all the information and especially the photo's from everyone who submitted them as with out them i would not have done it, and it was scary enough with all the photo's and help especially hitting a very expensive injector pump mostly hidden from view by all the clutter with a very big hammer and hoping i don't f...k up and damage something.
    One item i would like to remove so i can get to the solenoid wire is highlighted in the enclosed photo i but it looks like it's some sort of adjuster and i don't really want to mess with anything that might stuff up the setting for the pump, but i cannot get a spanner onto the nut on top of the solenoid so i can replace the black wire and lengthen it to make sure i get a good clean connection, anyway the black box is gone and it's time to rebuild the mess i have made and hope for the best.
    To be continued.....Injector pump what is.jpg
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    Job finished finally, not something i want to repeat again and the best part is it started first time so hopefully that problem is over but the red flashing light stays on when car is running not flashing as it does when it's stopped, just a steady red, has anyone else had the same indication after removing NATS from the injector pump, i was hoping it's because NATS is still lurking in the background for whatever is it controls who knows.
    I would still like to know what the adjuster screw is in my previous post as i want to check the solenoid for collateral damage after all the violence that happened around it and that adjuster is blocking access to it.
    Thanks to everyone for the advice and especially the photo's they were a great help.
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