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22nd March 2012, 03:06 AM
#1
Beginner
Some big wet ruts + breaking my brand new snatch strap
Thought i'd chuck these up for ya. Having some fun in the mud
http://s1098.photobucket.com/albums/...rutsmeedit.mp4
Breaking my brand new snatch strap as a result of this bog
http://s1098.photobucket.com/albums/...=SNAPstrap.mp4
poor 8000kg strap didn't stand a chance, i've since upgraded to an 11000 kg one lol
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22nd March 2012, 03:24 AM
#2
Hardcore
Huh, looks like there would be some sticky stuff under that water mate.
Well at least you have a better strap now lol.
Cheers, the ferret.
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22nd March 2012, 04:53 AM
#3
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That's interesting, HallyGUTE.
I reckon it is a good thing if the snatch strap is the weakest link.
Snatch straps are cheap to replace, and if the strap itself fails, there are no heavy chunks of metal flying through the air, or chassis being bent all out of shape etc. That's assuming that any joined straps have been loop to looped, and not shackled.
I find it hard to judge distances on videos - how much run up did your snatcher have?
I seem to recall, but haven't checked recently, that being wet reduces the strength of snatch straps.
Do you think it picked up some damage from a rock or log or something else while under water?
Do you remember, and are you prepared to share what brand it was?
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22nd March 2012, 07:24 AM
#4
Expert
If you are going to get stuck do it properly.... Nice looking rig too. at least it is a DX. No stinky carpet to try and clean...
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22nd March 2012, 03:31 PM
#5
Beginner
Originally Posted by
Silver
That's interesting, HallyGUTE.
I reckon it is a good thing if the snatch strap is the weakest link.
Snatch straps are cheap to replace, and if the strap itself fails, there are no heavy chunks of metal flying through the air, or chassis being bent all out of shape etc. That's assuming that any joined straps have been loop to looped, and not shackled.
I find it hard to judge distances on videos - how much run up did your snatcher have?
I seem to recall, but haven't checked recently, that being wet reduces the strength of snatch straps.
Do you think it picked up some damage from a rock or log or something else while under water?
Do you remember, and are you prepared to share what brand it was?
Hey mate yeah i was glad the strap broke instead of my recovery point flying through the air haha.
I think my mate had roughly 5 metres till there was tension on the strap. I dont thing there would have been any damage to the strap because of rocks etc under the water, the only thing under that water was mud that you'd sink in up to your knees lol. The brand of the strap is Just Straps. even though it was brand new i can't fault it for breaking as i was proper bogged and a mate of mine has the exact same strap and its worked for him on many occasions. like you said above its better the strap breaks than missiles flying or chassis bending.
2005 GU DX Patrol Ute TD42 coil/leaf. Front ARB Air locker-33" MTZ's-Warn winch-IPF900 HID's-Bigmouth bonnet scoop-2" Dobinson lift-3" Zorst-Boost + EGT gauges-Tuned to 13PSI-Custom steel tray-Hard Hat diff cover-Full Millweld set up coming soon
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22nd March 2012, 03:35 PM
#6
Beginner
Originally Posted by
scotty83
If you are going to get stuck do it properly.... Nice looking rig too. at least it is a DX. No stinky carpet to try and clean...
Yeha mate the vinyl is easy to clean, but the underlay that is stuck to the bottom of it stinks. it was a pretty big job pulling the seats and everything out, its the first time its ever been done so as you can imagine there was heaps of dirt under the vinyl that built up over the years, then i added water and created mud haha. hardest thing abouot cleaning it was peeling all the underlay off the back of the vinyl...its glued on pretty good! i went and brought some more and cut it to shape so next time this happens just gotta pull the vinyl up and hose it down then throw the underlay in the bin and cut some more, it was only $10 a metre which was a bonus
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22nd March 2012, 04:29 PM
#7
Moderator
Originally Posted by
HallyGUTE
poor 8000kg strap didn't stand a chance, i've since upgraded to an 11000 kg one lol
Hi mate, not a big fan of this idea for what you are doing to be honest. Your recovery hook is likely rated at 10,000lbs and not 10,000kgs. There is Way way different outcomes there.
Have a good read of this thread mate, it could save your life.
Recovery-The-Fundamentals
A Snatch Strap is a Kinetic recovery rope. It is designed to stretch 20% of its length and then provide its created and store kinetic Energy to pop you out of where you are. The problem is that the heavier the snatch strap the harder you have to tug it to achieve the stretch and create the Kinetic energy, Which is the point of the thing! By "Upgrading" to an 11,000kg Snatch your mate will have to hit it that much harder to achieve the result you need. The hit on your hitch point and His will be a Harder hit and the cost of creating the Kinetic Energy will be greater right through the mechanical chain of recovery. A Snatch should feel gradual in both cars. No Big BANGS.
Leave the 11,000kgs snatch strap for the OKA and the F trucks mate.
By reading the thread above you should have a greater understanding of how Stuck you really were, the weights that you were dealing with and armed with this info your in a better position to make educated, informed and safe decisions about how best to extract your car. You should have winched out of that on a Double line pull, Slowly. Releasing the suction layer as you go.
How did you get out out of interest?
Using a snatch there next time maybe think about not trying to get it out on the first Hit. there would have been nothing wrong with him building up to the big one using smaller tugs to see about loosening the suction on your car. You would likely have got it out on the 5th or 6th pull i reckon.
Sorry mate, not having a go at you, that is not why you posted it up. I am a big fan of sharing info to make our hobbie safe for everyone. That is why we are all here.
Enjoy mate, Nice car. looked like fun.
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22nd March 2012, 04:31 PM
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Patrol Guru
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22nd March 2012, 04:48 PM
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Rotaredom
Couldn't use the Winch 2 get yourself out?
Time is never wasted when your wasted all the time
WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.
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22nd March 2012, 07:19 PM
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Watched the vid before I saw your avatar and thought that looks like Ollera Creek, then saw your in Townsville. If it is Ollera the bogholes there have claimed many many 4b's over the years. What looks like an innocent puddle will swallow your car more often than not. Heaps of cars without snorkels have been written off there. Its pretty fun though. I reckon old mate pulling you out might have been going a tad quick but its easy to say in hindsight.
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