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4th March 2012, 08:59 AM
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How do I drive an automatic?
Hi guys,
Sounds real easy. But I'm really after some finer details here.
My problem is that my 4.2 not turbo automatic is performing far worse than my old terrano (2.7turbo) manual did.
I bought the truck as a tow vehicle for a very heavy trailer boat and NZ is quite hilly.
The way it feels is that when I start to go up a hill, the engine keeps working but the slush box doesn't push enough work to the wheels, hence slow speed on moderate hills and bad fuel consumption figures.
Is there a technique to make the torque converter lock up and get the power to the wheels?
Also the thing 'slips' lots at 50kph (on my speedo!!!) which also seems wasteful. Any around town driving tips to improve consumption.
Don't realy want to drop a manual box in (or swap for a (wash-my-mouth-out) Toyota landcruiser) but I do need a good beefy tow truck for the boat.
Thanks to all those 'gurus' out there in Safari land.
Dave
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4th March 2012 08:59 AM
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4th March 2012, 10:08 AM
#2
Legendary
have you had a service on the auto box sounds like it is slipping then they can tell you if there is any problems
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4th March 2012, 10:16 AM
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Expert
Hi mate
Take it in and get the auto serviced and if it doesn't already have it put a nice big trans cooler on.
and start looking at what turbo kit to bang on it. all N/A td42s lack a turbo.
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4th March 2012, 10:42 AM
#4
Hi gang,
Aftermarket cooler fitted and checked.
Had it in to 2 trans specialists to check. they road tested it and assure me that it is all working as per spec. the first suggested a 'new fluid and fill with synthetic - as this does higher temp better'. The 2nd suggested all is well except that it changes up a little early.
Dave
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4th March 2012, 11:50 AM
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Rotaredom
This is what I would look at doing 2 my Auto is I had the spare money
High Performance Valve Body
http://www.automatictransmission.com...p?NewsId=19197
Nissan Patrol Stand Alone Transmission Computer System ( comes with lockup kit )
http://www.automatictransmission.com...p?NewsId=40338
You can buy a TC lockup kit, or build your own. Do a search or ask Chaz on here, he has built his own.
Torque Convertor Lock-Up Manual Control Kit Suit Most Models
http://www.automatictransmission.com...p?NewsId=42068
Super Low Stall V8 Convertors For Both Toyota Land Cruiser & Nissan Patrol
http://www.automatictransmission.com...p?NewsId=24346
And I drive my automatic like its stolen! *L*
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4th March 2012, 01:49 PM
#6
Hardcore
on the hills drive it like a manual
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4th March 2012, 02:37 PM
#7
Expert
Change the ATF anyway and a new filter/gasket kit. I use Castrol TransmaxZ. Made a difference to mine. Yeah, and like macca said, drive it like a manual.
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6th March 2012, 09:07 AM
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6th March 2012, 11:06 AM
#9
Hardcore
auto's are great for sand driving. I have a manual and have my zd30 clutch changed to a solid flywheel rather than dual mass one. Sound like you're up for a febuild and get the bands tightend or new stall converter
Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both.
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant,
'If I live, I will kill you. If I die, You are forgiven.'
Such is the rule of honour.
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6th March 2012, 08:05 PM
#10
Expert
Dave,
If you’re prepared to spend some reasonable $$, say $1000 or more, consider a Wholesale Automatics valvebody. That will give you lock up in all gears, but If you’re on a tighter budget, at least consider a TransGo Shiftkit to improve the transmissions strength. Also, change the line pressure dropping resistor from your 12 ohm to at least a 1000 ohm resistor. This will reduce slipping in the transmission, increase its strength and improve gear shifting also.
Never use overdrive (4th) in the city because you have no engine braking in O/D without the converter locked. I only use O/D above 80 and only with the converter locked and I would always drive manually in hilly terrain because the Patrols TCU isn’t the smartest on the block and often doesn’t know which is the ideal gear to be in. They do tend to shift into 2nd too late and 3rd too early, so I just change manually, particularly when needing to downshift.
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