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    I’m not an expert in bush survival or bush survival techniques. The info I have supplied is from my life’s skills, knowledge and experience.

    This information is provided in good faith, and is true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief.

    Here’s a handy website with lots of great info.
    http://www.police.wa.gov.au/Portals/...rival_2007.pdf

    Info you should consider leaving behind, with somebody you trust:
     Your full name
     Your nickname/s
     Your date of birth
     Your current residential address
     Your current business address
     Bank’s name and branch (you decide if you want to hand your account details over)
     Your mobile/landline/satellite phone number
     Your contactable email (skype, ect) address
     Your height
     Your weight
     All marks, scars, tattoos and piercings
     List all the medication (prescribed or otherwise) you’re on, and the frequency you take it
     What are you allergic to?
     If you wear a medic alert bracelet, what is its colour, number, and which part of your body do you wear it?
     The name and address of your local doctor
     A list of all sicknesses, illnesses, injuries and diseases you have
     The name and address of your dentist
     Make, model, colour, registration number and any accessories fitted to your vehicle
     Your HF radio callsign (HF selcal)
     What HF radio channels you will be operating on
     Who and what times you will be doing your HF radio skeds with
     What communications equipment you will be carrying with you (eg. UHF/AM CB, mobile phone, satellite phone, HF radio, laptop
     If carrying an EPIRB, the number of it
     If taking a pet, its name, make, model colour and age, Local Government Authority animal registration number
     Is your pet microchipped? What’s the number?
    Very recent pictures of:….
     Yourself (including marks, scars, tattoos)
     Your pet/s
     Your vehicle (4 pics –1 of each side and 1 x front and back – INCLUDING the number plate/s)
     Your vehicle fully kitted up and ready to go.
     Your campsite, the way you’d normally set it up/leave it

    The bush can be as cruel and untrusting as the sea. All caution is to be exercised, before, during and after your adventure.

    I’d also suggest you consider wearing flouro, glow in the day and night clothing. It should immensely help any rescuers, day and night.

    If you change your route, tell somebody, BEFORE you start that route.

    Feel free to copy and paste this list, and fill in the missing gaps. Trust me, it will go a long way to helping the emergency services locate and identify you, in your time of need.

    Take care out there, and remember, proper planning prevents poor performance.

    Rossco
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    Ex Telstra - 2005, 4.2 TDi ute -with pod and more fruit than a grocery shop.

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    Just to give you an idea this is a pic from a WW II Aircraft crash site I was at last week out on the fringe of the Goldfields. My Patrol is less than 40 metres away just off the track in the upper left



    The Pilot walked for four days and was found alive. The Navigator was never found.

    The country can best be described as "gently undulating". You usually cannot see the next crest from the one you are standing on and it goes for miles and miles and miles and... anyway I am sure you get my drift.

    The track in the pic goes about another 50 metres and thats it. So if you wander away and then walk back and miss by 60 metres you will just keep walking till you get to the next track (if there is one) by the time you suss out someone has either stolen your truck or it's the wrong track it can get real confusing real fast.
    Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.

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    All good and interesting info here.

    My small contribution is to suggest that the minute you suspect you might not know where you are, is to stop, sit down, take a breath, and think things through, rather than keeping on walking.

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    I am one who snaps a branch or twig, or sticks a piece of dunny paper in the ground when I think things could change and there is a chance of becoming lost.
    Lay a few sticks out as an arrow, tie something to a tree.
    Cheers, the ferret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumper View Post
    There are many great places to go in Australia, some close to population centers and others more remote. For those people who travel to the remote areas their wellbeing depends on their vehicle, they rely on that vehicle carrying them into and back from their destinations. The water it carries and its supplies of food, bedding and shelter permit the traveller to these places to survive in the normally harsh conditions.
    GPS can tell you where you are and which direction to go, a simple compass or even landmarks can assist in identifying your location……….
    Laverton WA,
    Lost prospectors have proven to be a persistent problem for Laverton Police, with more than 15 reported rescues over the past 18 months.
    If you lose the vehicle for what ever reason you are in serious trouble, you are on your own with whatever you have with you.
    Why are you separated from the vehicle? Well many are the reasons and each story is different. One guy found a gold nugget got excited and kept going until he was well and truly lost. Lost for 5 days nearly died.
    Walking from camp just going to try the ridge, going for a short walk to check out a rock outcrop, all these reasons and more in a part of the world where all the trees look the same and often there’s no clear view to the horizon.
    This is not the vehicle breaking down drama its just the people have left the vehicle to go wandering about and then cant find the way back to camp.

    GPS batteries do go flat, clouds can hide the sun and rocks cannot keep footprints.
    Check these sites for more details.
    http://golddetecting.4umer.net/t7152-lost-out-bush
    http://www.cairnsconnect.com/visitor/gettinglost.php
    http://goaustralia.about.com/od/prac...cksurvival.htm

    I am a gold prosector and I have lost the vehicle on occasions, once south of Maytown QLD on the Palmer and again couple of hundred kms NNE of Laverton WA. So take all precautions and be careful when you’re out there.

    Lets hear your ideas on how to make it easier to find the way back to the car.( Other than a police helicopter).

    I thought of a few.
    Don’t go bush alone……then you could listen for a VB tinny being cracked at beer o clock!
    If the horn could start tooting when it got dark.
    Strobe light flashes when it gets dark
    Dinner GONG (Smelling eggs and Bacon)

    No serious guys...............have you got any ideas?
    G'day stumpjumper, good to see someone finally asks the question before heading out and getting lost. Some good information in your thread from everyone, so I'll add my 2 cents as well. I'm fortunate, I have served with our fine defence force, and have gained alot of knowledge in survival, navigation, communications and the like over the last 19 years. My personal opinion is the six Ps. Prior preparation prevents p*ss poor performance. personally, you can't go past your paper map and compass. GPS should never be relied upon, and I've seen many navigate purely by GPS and not reach their objective. I personally only use my GPS as a secondary device. I always carry an EPIRB in my vehicle and PLB when I'm walking. Good cheap insurance I say. I don't care how long I'm away From my vehicle, I will always carry a small qty of food and water in my pack as well. This was sparked by an accident some time ago where we were away from our vehicle and prevented us from returning for some time. Little things such as leaving your details (as rossco has listed) to actually carrying the right map will get you home to your family. But alas I'm not from the stone age, and have tested quite alot of systems to serve my needs. The best I've seen and used is the Garmin astro320. You have to get them from the U.S but it works a treat. I have modified the dc-40 collar that comes with it and have tested it in jungle, desert and have always returned to the car. Hope this and everyone else's collective knowledge helps

    Bakes
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    About all you can do if you are worried about a mate is light a fire with alot of smoke (not setting whole b.....y country on fire) crank the stereo wire the horn on, put ALL ligjts on faceing up a hill and spotlights faceing straight up and retreat to a suitable distance with required achcohol. If satellite ph now is probably a good time to let someone know.
    DO NOT LEAVE VECHILE
    If you are searching in vechile honk drive then STOP AND LISTEN, about twice as much as you think you need to leave good "paper trail" as suggested so you can find way back and he can follow tracks. Walk across car tracks ans see how easy it to miss them in some country.
    I'm no expert either I just thought these things made sense.
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    Or just have ya lappy with ya and PM Doggy!!
    Nah, but all joking aside, there is a lot to be said about the old dunny paper left in trees or the ground if you need to leave the vehicle.
    You can find yer way back, just follow the paper trail lol.
    Cheers, the ferret.
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    Leave undies in trees, don't need um any hows

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    If you take all of the above and condense you would have a great Manual for not getting Lost.

    I have one other and that is to take a Pack of Cards and if you get Lost sit down and start to play Solitaire andsome smart B(*^&^%&^ will always come along to show you the next move
    RAFLMAO

    Seriously some great tips in the above Posts

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    yea most of that sounds like my ex-boss in surveying he was a 4x4 person like most 4x4 people who have proplems in the bush if you live on the coast you will all ways have proplems in the outback but people that live in the outback seem to have no proplems with it and dont drive big 4x4 or carry large amounts of stuff, but they do understand the outback because they live and breath it you should always study about what you want to do if you understand the outback then you will have very little proplems with it. My ex- boss was from the coast moved to the outback to do more work it was funny as hell he thought it would be like the coast.

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