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    Strange Fuel Starvation when its Cold Outside

    Morning from the US
    I am a long time Safari/Patrol Owner, Ive had 5 or 6 over the years. I'm an importer in the US.
    My current daily driver is a rare beast, Its a 94 Safari AD (UN Spec) NA TD42 24volt Automatic with 7,000 kms, No, seriously it has 7,000 kms.
    I bought it 6 months ago, it was apparently a never delivered UN vehicle. It was driven 15kms a month and serviced every 6 months.
    It is literally new in the wrapper.
    Imported it a few months ago, had an ODD giant diesel particulate filter underneath about twice the size of a muffler. Pulled that!
    Here is my problem, it starts fantastic no matter what them outside temp, glow plugs work a charm. Runs beautifully.
    When the outside temp nears freezing it still starts beautifully but after 2 or 3 minutes it want to DIE.
    If it just sitting running it will gradually start to drop rms from 900 to stall like it is running out of fuel, then a very hard restart. then feels like its running on 4 or 5 cylinders until it clears its throat.
    If I am driving it after start it runs fine, but if i let off the throttle even at 60kms it will drop rpm's and die. If I come to a stop, same thing.
    It takes reaching full operating temperature before it will stop acting this way.

    Facts
    Replaced fuel filter and checked all plastic lines
    Only happens when its cold outside, near or below freezing
    Its done this since I got it 3 months ago at 5,500 kms
    We have installed the DTS Turbo system, made no difference
    I have run fuel treatment in it every fill up
    Does not matter the orientation of how I park it, uphill downhill all the same
    Runs absolutely beautifully and strong as an ox UNLESS I come to stop or completely lift off throttle
    Once fully warmed up it has ZERO symptoms.
    I have another 96 Safari with factory Turbo TD42 and his has never exhibited any similar symptoms

    Any insight would be GREATLY appreciated, i'm at wits end.

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    Last edited by paladintrucks; 12th January 2023 at 03:30 AM.
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    Hi mate.
    Simply put your problem is cold diesel. Happens to us over here too.
    Doesn't stay cold enough for long enough to worry a great deal about it.
    An inline fuel heater may be an option.
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    And BTW, congrats on both rigs. They look awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touses View Post
    Hi mate.
    Simply put your problem is cold diesel. Happens to us over here too.
    Doesn't stay cold enough for long enough to worry a great deal about it.
    An inline fuel heater may be an option.
    Agree, I have gone this way also, however a first stop fix is to look at getting some 'winter fuel or additive' to control the gelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeBee View Post
    Agree, I have gone this way also, however a first stop fix is to look at getting some 'winter fuel or additive' to control the gelling.
    Yep try this stuff.
    https://lucasoil.com/products/fuel-t...esel-treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Touses View Post
    Hi mate.
    Simply put your problem is cold diesel. Happens to us over here too.
    Doesn't stay cold enough for long enough to worry a great deal about it.
    An inline fuel heater may be an option.
    I have zero issues with my other identical TD42 though, same day parked in the sale place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeBee View Post
    Agree, I have gone this way also, however a first stop fix is to look at getting some 'winter fuel or additive' to control the gelling.
    I'll give it a try, but my other identical GQ has zero issues,
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    I'll give it a shot! THX
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    I'll give it a shgot
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