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29th July 2011, 09:18 PM
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Patrol God
difference in MQ/MK suspension
I have copied this from 4WD1.com
If you own a 1980's model leaf-sprung Nissan Patrol wagon or SWB, chances are that you're calling it an 'MQ'.
There's confusion for Nissan owners as to whether their 4WD is an MQ Patrol, or its 2nd series variant 'MK'model. So here are the facts:
MQ Patrols have round headlights are were build between 6/1980 and 10/1983.
MK Patrols have square headlights are were build between 11/1983 and 12/1987.
Why does this matter? When it comes to the fitment of aftermarket suspension, the design of the front shackles and front spring eyes, differs between the two models. Most suspension companies consolidate the application, only making the front leafs for the later model MK. If you own an MQ, and you buy a suspension kit, you get the springs for the later MK, supplied together with the matching front shackles and bushes from the MK model, in which then all is good.
What is different about the front shackles and bushes between the two models? The earlier MQ has shackles with straight-wall side-plates. Instead of a tradional rubber or urethane bushes, they use a special metal or brass type busing.
On the MK Patrol, the front shackle side-plates are stepped at the bottom (bowed out), basically like an upside-down y-shape. The bush on the top shackle pin is a metal type, and the bush at the bottom of the shackle (that sits in the spring eye) is a rubber or urethane type.
With the vintage of these Patrols, and the potential for chops and changes to the front end by (a) the fitment of a different grille and headlight kit (say after a smash or panel-beating job) and (b) the possibility of the suspension being previously modified or (c) an MQ/MK aftermarket suspension kit - how can you be sure what to order when it comes to suspension parts (replacement type or otherwise?)
Remember:
- MQ was build 6/1980-10/1983
- MK was build 11/-1983-12/1987
AND - CHECK THE FRONT SHACKLE DESIGN.
- MQ has straight-wall side-plates
- MK has stepped or bowed side-plates
If you are purchasing a new suspension kit, make sure the shackles will match the new springs.
If you are ordering new bushes, or new shackles for your earlier MQ Patrol, double-check the front shackle design so you know whether to order original MQ ones or the later MK type.
Tim
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29th July 2011 09:18 PM
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29th July 2011, 09:34 PM
#2
Good find Tim.
I moved the thread to the MQ/MK section to make it easier to find.
That's interesting that the use a metal type bush in places, do the bushes wear and if they do are they difficult to replace?
Tony
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29th July 2011, 09:47 PM
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Administrator
That is a good find Timbo, Lots of things to learn in that post..Nice one!
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29th July 2011, 09:56 PM
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Patrol God
Originally Posted by
YNOT
Good find Tim.
I moved the thread to the MQ/MK section to make it easier to find.
That's interesting that the use a metal type bush in places, do the bushes wear and if they do are they difficult to replace?
Tony
Yeah they wear, and can be bought, and look easy enough to do.
Tim
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29th July 2011, 11:40 PM
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Legendary
the things you learn hey i think my MQ was a MK bugger me thanks Tim
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31st July 2011, 11:49 AM
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Patrol God
Originally Posted by
timbar
the things you learn hey i think my MQ was a MK bugger me thanks Tim
Well trust me to find the facts.
Tim
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1st August 2011, 10:28 AM
#7
There are alot of little differences even just cosmetic between the MQ/MK
The headlight conversion from the round headlights to the rectangle headlights
Isnt a five minute job,thats for sure
Ill do a list and post it up,from what i can see between the two models here,if theres interest
Good work Tim
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1st August 2011, 10:11 PM
#8
Patrol God
Originally Posted by
MQ MAD
There are alot of little differences even just cosmetic between the MQ/MK
The headlight conversion from the round headlights to the rectangle headlights
Isnt a five minute job,thats for sure
Ill do a list and post it up,from what i can see between the two models here,if theres interest
Good work Tim
All the more info Corey the better.
Tim
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2nd September 2011, 06:31 PM
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Patrol God
Hi guys, I just read the thread and so went outside to make sure what mine was. Thought it was an MQ, headlights are MQ (round), Shackles are MQ (straight) but the rego says 1987 for the year of manufacture? Maybe someone did the dodgy on the rego once? (its only off road now anyway)
Also; I see a lot more MQs (round headlights) than MKs. Like 1 MK to every 5 MQs. Were more MQs sold in Aus? Maybe tassie is just that little bit more behind? lol
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3rd September 2011, 10:17 PM
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Patrol God
MQ's are the most produced out of the two, as they went from 1980 to 1985 I think from memory. I put up a thread about them a few weeks ago.
Tim
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