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Thread: Towing a 6m Lotus Trooper Caravan wit my 2001 GU 3litre turbo

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    Thanks for your input
    It's a bit difficult. I'M dealing with GCM, GVM and then Tow ball weight. So I should check out how many kg's the patrol's GVM is and then load my car before attaching the van.
    Then I could take it to the weigh bridge and confirm whether it is under or over the GVM and then I can calculate how much I can or cant load on the towbar.

    If my GVM is say 250 kg under the GVM I assume I can have a towball weight of up to 250kg. All good

    Then how do I work out whether the weight of the Van I am towing is too heavy or not (Is this when I look at GCM?? Do I add the GVM of my car and the GVM of the van and see if it is within the GCM tolerance??)


    After looking at specs I believe the Van is Tare weight of 2850kg Ball weight of about 240kg & ATM of 3500KG

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB View Post
    Must not exceed “at” GVM I’m lost :-(
    Verging on interpretational these damn stickers :-(


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    Yeah Im bloody lost. TBH, I've never really looked at its no wonder....
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    What's that code at the bottom of the sticker, ending with "AU"? ADR-related? Might be worth a confirm with a Nissan dealer.
    That the Australian part number for the sticker if you wanted to replace it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillipA View Post
    Thanks for your input
    After looking at specs I believe the Van is Tare weight of 2850kg Ball weight of about 240kg & ATM of 3500KG
    Sorry to say Phil mate but if I nuffy understand reckon, seems you’ll unfortunately get done in a 3.0L rated :-( Truly hope I’m wrong too good bloke!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    Yeah Im bloody lost. TBH, I've never really looked at its no wonder....


    That the Australian part number for the sticker if you wanted to replace it.
    Well if that's an Australian Nissan part number then it can be relied upon for this issue?

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    The weight of the van you can tow is when it is unhitched and loaded within its ATM. I have a Patrol auto and can only tow 2500 kg but I’m planning on buying a van with an ATM of 2650 kg that I won’t be allowed to load heavier than 2500 kg.

    If I have 250 kg on the ball, that doesn’t mean I’m only towing 2250 kg (the van GTM).
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    Well the van wo't be goin up any mountains ....yet

    I will pick it up in Newcastle and take the coast road to Cairns trying to detour around Brisbane. The road is faily flat the whole way.

    Be getting some in the coil air bags as was suggested to me by a suspension mob so that should keep the front wheels on the ground.

    If I do start some serious distances with challenging slopes I will be forced to by a Landcruiser 200 series V8 dare I say on this forum

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    After looking at specs I believe the Van is Tare weight of 2850kg Ball weight of about 240kg & ATM of 3500KG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasnart View Post
    Well if that's an Australian Nissan part number then it can be relied upon for this issue?
    Definitely an AU part number, thats all I am qualified to tell you. I become a nuffy beyond that.

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    Safe travels Phil mate! Please be sure to look up some other great 3.0L proofing threads on here and install an EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) guage before departure. Our 3.0L & 4.2L diesels very much dislike 2degree uphill headwinds, drop a gear down or two and keep well well below 550 EGT’s for longer highway periods


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    Quote Originally Posted by jff45 View Post
    The weight of the van you can tow is when it is unhitched and loaded within its ATM. I have a Patrol auto and can only tow 2500 kg but I’m planning on buying a van with an ATM of 2650 kg that I won’t be allowed to load heavier than 2500 kg.

    If I have 250 kg on the ball, that doesn’t mean I’m only towing 2250 kg (the van GTM).
    Think I understand. It's complicated issue. Basically as far as I can understand, the trailer cant exceed Gross Trailer Mass (GTM). The vehicle cant exceed GVM. The total combination cant exceed GTM + GVM minus ball weight. Am I right?

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