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21st January 2021, 11:36 AM
#691
Originally Posted by
MB
Hey that's a great idea MB, I looked at some tool drawers in Bunnings yesterday and they're a bit pricey. I think I'll copy your idea, that looks perfect.
I can imagine the noise that mallet bench would make, attached to the frame of the shed it'd reverb really well hahahaha.
Thanks mate.
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21st January 2021 11:36 AM
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21st January 2021, 11:37 AM
#692
Originally Posted by
MB
Where did you get those things from MB? That is EXACTLY what i've been looking for quite a while. What are they called??
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21st January 2021, 12:49 PM
#693
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Not sure mate, they were a Christmas pressie years ago from MIL.
Reckon Bunnings would have something similar no doubt.
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21st January 2021, 01:52 PM
#694
What a shame, I was in Bunnings yesterday, I'll have to go back.
Thanks MB.
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21st January 2021, 05:17 PM
#695
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Just recently I discovered 'Torque Sticks' for the first time .... discovered as in read about them.
Would love one of those battery operated rattle guns, was looking at the Makita DTW700Z a 'mid torque model, lighter in weight than it's bigger brothers but still with a nut busting torque of 1000NM (I also learned that 'nut busting torque' is a higher torque applied during the first few ugga duggas before reverting to the tools 'normal' max torque ..... in this case 700NM.
BUT I want it to save my back. For undoing wheel nuts, a 1.2 metre length of water pipe makes the job fairly easy (albeit slower than a rattle gun - time is something I have plenty of). The hardest part though is the final grunt when doing up the nuts with a standard cross brace. For me it's now a real back killer.
That's where the torque sticks came in - a means of limiting the torque & thus enabling the doing up of wheel nuts with a rattle gun without risk of overtightening - "you beauty" I thought.
But no - disappointment was to follow.
In spite of what a few sellers would have you believe they really are not suitable for the battery powered impact drivers. With air rattle guns yes, but not the cordless ones.
Having understood how they work, by 'twisting' & returning to their unstressed position between impacts, I now understand why they don't work well with cordless rattle guns.Unlike air rattleguns the ugga duggas on the cordless are just too fast, & don't give the twisted extension bar a chance to 'relax' & return to the fully untwisted state between each ugga dugga (impact).
Consequently there is quite a risk of overtightening. I have also read reports of shortened life of battery operated rattle guns because of the physical 'feedback' impact from the extension bar.
So best I can do is continue with the water pipe extension & get MrsTea to do the final 'grunt' tightening of each nut and in the meantime keep watching the rattle gun market & hope sooner or later one is developed which can apply a preset torque with reasonable accuracy.
Ah well it was a nice dream whilst it lasted.
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21st January 2021, 05:58 PM
#696
SUCH IS LIFE
I thought they are adjustable so you can adjust speed or rpm to suit different applications.
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21st January 2021, 06:06 PM
#697
Travelling Podologist
Originally Posted by
Maxhead
I thought they are adjustable so you can adjust speed or rpm to suit different applications.
You can adjust speed & level of impact, but not torque setting. Only way to avoid risk of overtightening is to use the rattle gun to undo the nuts & spin them off & to spin them back on lightly & finish off with a wheel brace or torque wrench.
I suppose that with practice & familiarity with a cordless rattle gun it may be possible to get the torque of the wheel nuts in the good enough/ballpark, but the risk of stretching/breaking studs is high whilst gaining that familiarity & how many of us do it regularly enough to have the confidence we are getting it right each time. Bottom line is that cordless rattle guns are still no good for doing up, only undoing
The torque sticks apparently work fairly well with air rattle guns because their impact rate is lower.
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21st January 2021, 06:16 PM
#698
SUCH IS LIFE
Originally Posted by
Cuppa
You can adjust speed & level of impact, but not torque setting. Only way to avoid risk of overtightening is to use the rattle gun to undo the nuts & spin them off & to spin them back on lightly & finish off with a wheel brace or torque wrench.
The torque sticks apparently work well with air rattle guns because their impact rate is lower.
Yeah ok, how slow are the air ones?
The Milwaukee one I was looking at can go down to 950 IPM .
I”’ looking at using it for the same application as yourself so might have to look into it a bit more
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21st January 2021, 06:33 PM
#699
SUCH IS LIFE
I’ve seen this warning on the cheap torque sticks on eBay
Note it states to turn down to under 1000ipm
The more expensive torque sticks state for use with air and electric wrenches
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21st January 2021, 08:18 PM
#700
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Picked up this 5 drawer tool wheelie chest from total Tools for $200 on clearance. Very happy with it. Not sure how I'm going to organise it yet but it will come together eventually. Perfect size for my needs and the floor space in my shed.
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