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    Lithium battery bulk buy

    Was just thinking what if we had expressions of interest on bulk
    buying for Lithium DC batteries. Ive heard they are half the weight
    of say a SLA battery.
    This would need to be on a state buy state buy as freight would be huge
    say from east to west coast.
    Something to think about Id be up for it depending on price
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    I would be interested, been thinking about Lithium for my next deep cycle and mine has been long in ther tooth for a while. They look very attractive for this application however I'm far far an expert on this subject.

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    Agree early days , would need someone with some knowledge on them first.
    Would a 150 ah be possible for a 4x4 application??
    Like LEDs,, these batteries are the future IMHO but at what cost??
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    I'd be interested, but I'm very naive when it comes to these. Would like some opinions about this though if anybody knows.
    The only real world application I know of is my mate has a 120AH itechworld I believe it is unit in his y62. And he swears by this thing.
    Apparently it doesn't drop volts much, weighs 13-14kg from memory and has a inbuilt battery system thingie into the battery.

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    Maybe @Cuppa may know a bit, maybe the technology
    isnt there yet, Im like everyone else havent got a clue.
    At least now we can talk about it and possible gain some knowledge
    along the way.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100Ah-12...frcectupt=true
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    Bugger, only just bought 3 AGM's a couple of months ago - all up 120KG's!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeBee View Post
    Bugger, only just bought 3 AGM's a couple of months ago - all up 120KG's!!!
    Maybe think of running your shed off panels if this all works out lol

    @AB can you change the title to Lithium please,, TIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodge View Post
    I'd be interested, but I'm very naive when it comes to these. Would like some opinions about this though if anybody knows.
    The only real world application I know of is my mate has a 120AH itechworld I believe it is unit in his y62. And he swears by this thing.
    Apparently it doesn't drop volts much, weighs 13-14kg from memory and has a inbuilt battery system thingie into the battery.
    iTech are a local mob over here and make/sell really high quality stuff.
    Their Lith Jump Starters are top notch as are their batteries and at approx 8 hunjy not that bad a value(there are cheaper Liths around tho in the $500 range).
    Main advantages of Lith are (rounded out);
    -greatly increased current delivery capacity (a little dinky one will spin a wacking great V8 deisel)
    -almost double the effective power for same physical size
    -almost double the effective power for same capacity
    -3 or 4 times or more effective life
    -between 1/3rd or 1/2 the weight for equiv Lead Acid
    -if fitted with internal balancing ccts etc (like the iTech) can be charged by Car Alt, Solar etc etc without any dramas
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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    -if fitted with internal balancing ccts etc (like the iTech) can be charged by Car Alt, Solar etc etc without any dramas
    Thanks for clarifying all that!

    So do you know, if the itech battery, having that in-built management system, would have no dramas being charged by a dc/dc charger ? As in, the two would not interfere with one another? For example i have the Ctek d250s unit. I could just replace my AGM with one of them lithiums and off we go... ?

    Does the unit inside the itech battery just takes care of lithium side of things, whatever that may be. It doesn't boost charge like a dc/dc charger does or ...?

    The reason I'm asking , is my mate has one of them redarc manager units, 30A, which is a dc/dc charger and a whole lot of other things. He ran a 140AH AGM off that.
    When he bought the itech lithium battery, his auto elecy questioned whether it would work, because then youve got two management systems in series.

    But so far he's had no issues I'm lead to believe. Apart from messing with some battery shunt and blowing up a lot of components, which is another story.

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    There are a few things to be aware of with lithium:
    - they start degrading as soon as they are made: will only last up to two or three years from the date of manufacture regardless of how they are used/abused.
    - they are very sensitive to high temperature: causes them to degrade much faster than they normal.
    - if you completely discharge a lithium battery, it's buggered.
    - if you overcharge them they can become very hot and may burst into flames (or at least be severely degraded if not buggered).
    - they should have on-board battery management.
    - and there is a small but very real chance that a failed lithium-ion battery pack will burst into flames.
    and there maybe more . . .
    The onboard smarts is primarily intended to maintain a balanced charge state (cell voltage) across all cells as their individual voltages will vary as the cells each age slightly differently. Without this, the battery is at very high risk of catastrophic failure. DO NOT USE AN UNBALANCED LITHIUM-ION BATTERY unless you really know what you are doing.

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