OUR VIDEOS GALLERY MEMBER SPONSORSHIP VENDOR SPONSORSHIP

User Tag List

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 35

Thread: 2"lift steering wheel of center, everything is stock

  1. #1
    Expert
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    queensland
    Posts
    213
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    2"lift steering wheel of center, everything is stock

    hi,
    so ive read plenty of threads about this and im abit lost.
    ive got a 2008 y61 wagon with 2 inch lift everything else is stock such as sway-bar & links, brake lines, steering arms and so on.

    when driving on highways i hold the steering wheel turned right about 1 o'clock id say
    when i let go within 2 seconds the wheel turns to 11 oçlock'ish and at 11 oclock the front wheels must point the the left so the car pulls left fast.

    so ive read alot and i want someone to tell me what i should do.
    adjustable drag link?
    return to center dampener?
    both?
    wheel alignment? dont hink this will do anything as theres nothing to adjust?

    i was going to pull the steering wheel of and rotate it anti clock wise but all that would do is mean i would be at 12 oclock and going straight and let go and wheel would go to 10 oclock and pull left.
    i want to do it right.

    im thinking drag link would be the way to go but dont know if that would fix my issue.
    my wheel is of center in both directions so i think a longer drag link would make it good one wat and worse the other, and a shorter drag link would be the other way.
    im overthinking this thing?

  2. # ADS
    Circuit advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Posts
    Many

     

  3. #2
    The master farter
    mudski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Eltham North
    Posts
    15,597
    Thanks
    8,667
    Thanked 11,264 Times in 6,427 Posts
    Mentioned
    460 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I would get a wheel alignment first to make sure everything is ok. Pulling to the left is a fairly common issue with the Patrols, can simply be due to the off camber on the road. A RTC dampener fixed the issue for me as every single aspect of my steering and suspension geometry checked out good. I would advise on getting an adjustable drag link too so when the drifting left issue is resolved you can centre the steering wheel via the drag link.

  4. #3
    Expert
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    queensland
    Posts
    213
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    am i better getting the wheel alignment first of the adjustable drag link?
    id hate to go to the wheel aligner and them tell me theres not much adjustment in a partol.
    if i get the drag link first then at least they can adjust it during the alignment?

  5. #4
    Smart like tractor Ben-e-boy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    4,440
    Thanks
    735
    Thanked 4,041 Times in 1,746 Posts
    Mentioned
    22 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Fireblade View Post
    am i better getting the wheel alignment first of the adjustable drag link?
    id hate to go to the wheel aligner and them tell me theres not much adjustment in a partol.
    if i get the drag link first then at least they can adjust it during the alignment?
    You are always better getting a wheel allignment and a written report of all your steering geometries. You need to know exactly whats is what and where it needs to be.
    96 GQ coil/Cab
    08 G6eT


  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ben-e-boy For This Useful Post:

    MudRunnerTD (17th September 2018), mudski (17th September 2018)

  7. #5
    Moderator MudRunnerTD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Geelong
    Posts
    15,379
    Thanks
    12,163
    Thanked 13,452 Times in 6,588 Posts
    Mentioned
    324 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy View Post
    You are always better getting a wheel allignment and a written report of all your steering geometries. You need to know exactly whats is what and where it needs to be.
    ^^^What he said^^^

    Also the Drag link has nothing to do with an alignment. it aligns the steering wheel to straight and helps your steering find the centre of the steering box but nothing else. More likely to be a Tie Rod issue or caster issue.

    Caster, Toe and alignment can all be adjusted on a Patrol. Camber cannot unless you fit Offset Kingpin bearing races which work great. Even alignment is difficult to adjust without adjustable Panhards.

    Get an alignment report done. it might be enough to fix the problem.
    Its a Nissan! =====> Its a Keeper!! ....... Got a TD42 in it BONUS!! ....... I'm a lucky bugger! I've got 2 of em!
    Check out my Toy --> MudRunnerTD's GQ From the Ground Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.

  8. #6
    Patrol Freak Bidja's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Location
    Southern Table Lands, NSW
    Posts
    1,089
    Thanks
    1,183
    Thanked 1,006 Times in 565 Posts
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Thinking out loud here - caster correction, understand stock caster has a tolerance of +/- 1 deg and normally 1 degree of correction is required / 1 inch of lift. I run 2" lift and have 2 deg caster correction bushes fitted. Saying this, some can get away with retaining stock caster bushes. A wheel alignment should identify if a need exist but I would buy some 2 degree caster correction bushes and a good steering SME would do wheel alignment and fit the bushes at same time . Many suppliers around, superior eng sell them:

    https://www.superiorengineering.com....hane-coil-8843
    2008 GU WAG ST Manual CRD - To do the job

  9. #7
    The master farter
    mudski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Eltham North
    Posts
    15,597
    Thanks
    8,667
    Thanked 11,264 Times in 6,427 Posts
    Mentioned
    460 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bidja View Post
    Thinking out loud here - caster correction, understand stock caster has a tolerance of +/- 1 deg and normally 1 degree of correction is required / 1 inch of lift. I run 2" lift and have 2 deg caster correction bushes fitted. Saying this, some can get away with retaining stock caster bushes. A wheel alignment should identify if a need exist but I would buy some 2 degree caster correction bushes and a good steering SME would do wheel alignment and fit the bushes at same time . Many suppliers around, superior eng sell them:

    https://www.superiorengineering.com....hane-coil-8843
    Personally I would just use Genuine bushes for a 2inch lift and not use castor correction bushes. Anything higher than 2inch, use drop boxes.

  10. #8
    Patrol Freak Bidja's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Location
    Southern Table Lands, NSW
    Posts
    1,089
    Thanks
    1,183
    Thanked 1,006 Times in 565 Posts
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    Personally I would just use Genuine bushes for a 2inch lift and not use castor correction bushes. Anything higher than 2inch, use drop boxes.

    In your opinion, for 2" lift why not caster correction bushes?
    Last edited by Bidja; 18th September 2018 at 09:00 AM.
    2008 GU WAG ST Manual CRD - To do the job

  11. #9
    Expert
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    queensland
    Posts
    213
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    Personally I would just use Genuine bushes for a 2inch lift and not use castor correction bushes. Anything higher than 2inch, use drop boxes.
    if i use genuine bushes then the caster will be un-changed from what is is now.
    i understand drag link will only control the centering of the steering wheel
    if the wheel is wanting to turn to 11 o'clock without me holding it then a wheel alignment might be what i need.
    if i get a adjustable drag link and rtc dampener i might be able to make it all good. feel like a wheel alignment is a wast of money. hate taking the car to other people for work and i always leave thinking it was a waste of time.

    is adjusting the drag link something i can do at home and gauge by feel?

    i spoke to pedders, guy told me from what im saying he doesn't think caster. he said wheel alignment and check the numbers and go form there, but also said fix will likely be offset kingpin bearnings $$$$

  12. #10
    Smart like tractor Ben-e-boy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    4,440
    Thanks
    735
    Thanked 4,041 Times in 1,746 Posts
    Mentioned
    22 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Fireblade View Post
    if i use genuine bushes then the caster will be un-changed from what is is now.
    i understand drag link will only control the centering of the steering wheel
    if the wheel is wanting to turn to 11 o'clock without me holding it then a wheel alignment might be what i need.
    if i get a adjustable drag link and rtc dampener i might be able to make it all good. feel like a wheel alignment is a wast of money. hate taking the car to other people for work and i always leave thinking it was a waste of time.

    is adjusting the drag link something i can do at home and gauge by feel?

    i spoke to pedders, guy told me from what im saying he doesn't think caster. he said wheel alignment and check the numbers and go form there, but also said fix will likely be offset kingpin bearnings $$$$
    Rtc dampers are crap. If the wheel is being pulled to the 11 o'clock position then it will likely be due to the lift.

    Wheel allignments are never a waste of money when you get the figures on paper. What ends up being a waste of money is believing an allignment is a waste of money and the trying to diagnose an issue by just guessing and throwing parts at it. Very much like an rtc damper, which is a bandaid fix that you are seemingly happy to waste money on and more expensive than a wheel allignment that you think is a waste of money.

    Be weary of offset kingpin bearnings, the race is concentric and the thinner area can and has failed prematurely. Also, installing an offset bearing (in the top for instance) will damage the other bearing in time as those bearings are no longer running square and true on their own race.
    96 GQ coil/Cab
    08 G6eT


Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •