2"lift steering wheel of center, everything is stock

[Fireblade]

hi,
so ive read plenty of threads about this and im abit lost.
ive got a 2008 y61 wagon with 2 inch lift everything else is stock such as sway-bar & links, brake lines, steering arms and so on.

when driving on highways i hold the steering wheel turned right about 1 o'clock id say
when i let go within 2 seconds the wheel turns to 11 oçlock'ish and at 11 oclock the front wheels must point the the left so the car pulls left fast.

so ive read alot and i want someone to tell me what i should do.
adjustable drag link?
return to center dampener?
both?
wheel alignment? dont hink this will do anything as theres nothing to adjust?

i was going to pull the steering wheel of and rotate it anti clock wise but all that would do is mean i would be at 12 oclock and going straight and let go and wheel would go to 10 oclock and pull left.
i want to do it right.

im thinking drag link would be the way to go but dont know if that would fix my issue.
my wheel is of center in both directions so i think a longer drag link would make it good one wat and worse the other, and a shorter drag link would be the other way.
im overthinking this thing?

[mudski]

I would get a wheel alignment first to make sure everything is ok. Pulling to the left is a fairly common issue with the Patrols, can simply be due to the off camber on the road. A RTC dampener fixed the issue for me as every single aspect of my steering and suspension geometry checked out good. I would advise on getting an adjustable drag link too so when the drifting left issue is resolved you can centre the steering wheel via the drag link.

[Fireblade]

am i better getting the wheel alignment first of the adjustable drag link?
id hate to go to the wheel aligner and them tell me theres not much adjustment in a partol.
if i get the drag link first then at least they can adjust it during the alignment?

[Ben-e-boy]

am i better getting the wheel alignment first of the adjustable drag link?
id hate to go to the wheel aligner and them tell me theres not much adjustment in a partol.
if i get the drag link first then at least they can adjust it during the alignment?

You are always better getting a wheel allignment and a written report of all your steering geometries. You need to know exactly whats is what and where it needs to be.

[MudRunnerTD]

You are always better getting a wheel allignment and a written report of all your steering geometries. You need to know exactly whats is what and where it needs to be.

^^^What he said^^^

Also the Drag link has nothing to do with an alignment. it aligns the steering wheel to straight and helps your steering find the centre of the steering box but nothing else. More likely to be a Tie Rod issue or caster issue.

Caster, Toe and alignment can all be adjusted on a Patrol. Camber cannot unless you fit Offset Kingpin bearing races which work great. Even alignment is difficult to adjust without adjustable Panhards.

Get an alignment report done. it might be enough to fix the problem.

[Bidja]

Thinking out loud here - caster correction, understand stock caster has a tolerance of +/- 1 deg and normally 1 degree of correction is required / 1 inch of lift. I run 2" lift and have 2 deg caster correction bushes fitted. Saying this, some can get away with retaining stock caster bushes. A wheel alignment should identify if a need exist but I would buy some 2 degree caster correction bushes and a good steering SME would do wheel alignment and fit the bushes at same time . Many suppliers around, superior eng sell them:

https://www.superiorengineering.com....hane-coil-8843

[mudski]

Thinking out loud here - caster correction, understand stock caster has a tolerance of +/- 1 deg and normally 1 degree of correction is required / 1 inch of lift. I run 2" lift and have 2 deg caster correction bushes fitted. Saying this, some can get away with retaining stock caster bushes. A wheel alignment should identify if a need exist but I would buy some 2 degree caster correction bushes and a good steering SME would do wheel alignment and fit the bushes at same time . Many suppliers around, superior eng sell them:

https://www.superiorengineering.com....hane-coil-8843

Personally I would just use Genuine bushes for a 2inch lift and not use castor correction bushes. Anything higher than 2inch, use drop boxes.

[the evil twin]

Wot he said X2 ^^^^

Cure the problem, don't treat the sympton... always ends in tears in the longer term

[Fireblade]

alright i will take the advise on wheel alignment before spending money on anything else. once i get the print out i will go from there.
this steering issue will go on the back burner for a month while i get a redarc pyro & boost gauge.

thanks for all the info

[Fireblade]

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So these were my wheel alignment resaults
They said the toe was out and adjusted it the parallel
I thought the toe was meant to slightly in to help it track straight?
And looking at the print out it says specs a +0.3 and they put it to 0.0

I’m not fining the pull to the left worse and I don’t think it’s in my head but who know haha.

I also see my caster is almost 0 I’ve read a lot and seems caster should be around +3 to +4 degrees
I’m not sure of the lift I have as it was fitted before buying the car but I’ve always thought it was 2inch and recently I fitted 15mm spacers to the top of the front coils.

So I originally thought I needed 2degree caster bushes but now I’m thinking I need at least 3degree bushes and to get more I can’t use bushes alone.
I value any input people have thanks