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    OK, so looking around I see there are upper and lower control arms and front and rear panhards. The control arms are offered in adjustable as are some of the lower. Also there are upper control arms with a bend to clear fuel tanks. i am assuming I don't need the bent upper adjustable units as the factory straight ones dont hit the fuel tank now? Is it complicating the setup by having the control arms adjustable or simply go for the +11mm units for the 2-3" lift range? Do I ned to change the upper control arms at all?
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    Hey Phil, you can get away without replacing the uppers IMO, although just as thin are shorter so stronger and out of harms way enough not to pose an issue. I had a bit cut out of my tank to clear the upper but if yours is clearing probably will be fine if not a bent one is an easier away to do it. My lowers are fixed but longer and would be fine for yours i reckon . .

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    OK, thanks guys, Just had a good talk with darren and the order of play from his perspective is 1) lower trailing arms, 2) Drag link behind front diff, 3) tierod in front of front diff, defer the front and rear panhards for now. This bloody car is a money sinkhole!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeBee View Post
    OK, thanks guys, Just had a good talk with darren and the order of play from his perspective is 1) lower trailing arms, 2) Drag link behind front diff, 3) tierod in front of front diff, defer the front and rear panhards for now. This bloody car is a money sinkhole!
    good list mate. Drag Link is in front of front diff from Steering box to Left Hub and the Tie Rod is behind the front diff from hub to hub to keep the front wheels pointing the same way.. Any dramas dont hesitate mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeBee View Post
    OK, This bloody car is a money sinkhole!. . .
    Really ?, must have bought the wrong one mine hasn't cost me a cent . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeBee View Post
    This bloody car is a money sinkhole!
    Yeah Ghee mate! My GU has cost me next to nothing to own. especially the last 3 months. Been sooo good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeBee View Post
    This bloody car is a money sinkhole!

    Hahahaha. Just wait until you start replacing the already replaced parts for even more improvement. Then going through it again chasing personal ideals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy View Post
    Hahahaha. Just wait until you start replacing the already replaced parts for even more improvement. Then going through it again chasing personal ideals
    I think my requirements are a lot different to yours somehow! I have not bent or broken any of this gear and its been out and about since 1997. I am not saying it is absolutely required, however what I am hearing is more insurance before it happens or lessening the impact of an event. Right now its another $750 for stuff that isn't broken, hence the hesitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeBee View Post
    I think my requirements are a lot different to yours somehow! I have not bent or broken any of this gear and its been out and about since 1997. I am not saying it is absolutely required, however what I am hearing is more insurance before it happens or lessening the impact of an event. Right now its another $750 for stuff that isn't broken, hence the hesitation.
    Nah $750 pretty good for the insurance perspective. Thats cheaper than buying just 1 of my shocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeBee View Post
    OK, so looking around I see there are upper and lower control arms and front and rear panhards. The control arms are offered in adjustable as are some of the lower. Also there are upper control arms with a bend to clear fuel tanks. i am assuming I don't need the bent upper adjustable units as the factory straight ones dont hit the fuel tank now? Is it complicating the setup by having the control arms adjustable or simply go for the +11mm units for the 2-3" lift range? Do I ned to change the upper control arms at all?
    The bend in the upper arms is for long range aux tanks as they kinda wrap around the rhs upper arm. So the arm is bent to clear the tank. Adjustable uppers are used to straighten, or re align the pinion angle so its in line with the tail shaft. The more the lift the more the diff needs to be twisted upwards to be in line with the tailshaft.
    Longer lower arms are used to centre the wheel in the guard when the axle is under compression. As when you add a suspension lift you will alter the wheel to guard alignment. Sorry I dont know how to explain it better. Bene will be able to clear this upper better than anyone. I went +10mm in my lower arms for a 4inch lift and its spot on for my application.

    Look at the pinion angle of your diff and if it runs in a straight line to your tail shaft, you dont require adjustable upper arms. If its not, then yeah technically you do.
    I changed both uppers and lowers on my arms and the rubber bushes in both did not last 12 months. All now replaced with OEM bushes and plenty of never seize on the pins and all good.

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