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    Quote Originally Posted by MB View Post
    Any chance of an underside or side on under chassis rail pic please Daz mate, Im stumping, sliding & trolling:-)


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    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nipagu7 View Post
    those ironman shocks come in soft or hard . the model number has a suffice of FE for hard and FEC for soft . maybe check with ironman to see if they can revalve them .
    Quote Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy View Post
    Drop boxes help with ride quality because the radius arms are flatter. Flatter links help to direct the force from hitting a bump through the spring. That energy is then dissipated through the shock.
    Links with more angle will transfer more of that force through the link itself, not the spring. That force is then dissipated through your spine.

    A very simple exercise is to use a trundle wheel and run it over rough ground holding it near vertical with locked elbows and wrist. You'll feel the force being transfered into your shoulder. Holding it the same way. Crouch down and hold it a close to horizontal as you can and run it over the same ground. Instead of your shoulder getting jarred it will just become a pivot point with much less jarring
    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    i have drop boxes on both my patrols and rate them highly. I agree with Bene that they will make a difference certainly. As he described the impact point changes and this will reduce the jarring but i really think your main priblem is the shocks. Hence pointing you that way.

    I rate the drop boxes highly... why not do both.

    Im not a huge fan of the adjustable shocks because it relies on the owner to understand how to tune them and not get lost in the adjustment. Most of the mid price are junk. Decent adjustables really do start at about Fox but as you say they are getting exy.

    For my money on your price point id be going the ARB Old Man Emu Sport shock. They have a built in infinitely variable valving sysytem that works great. Mine have 200,000km on them and they are still great.

    I like Remote Reservoir shocks for reduced fade but they really only pay for themselves on rough long distance touring applications and fast and hard use.

    My next shock for the GU will be the OME BP51s but they will cost a Bomb but will be the last shocks i buy.

    Remember you are looking to spend the money again after only 2 years which is dissapointing!! Add what you spent to what you are going to spend to fix it and you could have had an awesome setup 2 years ago.... frustrating i know.

    OME Sport would get my money with 3" drop boxes to round it off and new Nidsan OEM bushes in the radius arms.
    Thanks for the info MudRunner, I appreciate yours & everyone's help. I'll check out the OME Sport. I did look at the BP51s but they are very pricey ATM.

    Will drop boxes fix the wandering steering? It's like rolling along in a boat sometimes, we're over here, no now we're over here, straight again, no leaning to the left now etc etc etc.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10G View Post
    Thanks for the info MudRunner, I appreciate yours & everyone's help. I'll check out the OME Sport. I did look at the BP51s but they are very pricey ATM.

    Will drop boxes fix the wandering steering? It's like rolling along in a boat sometimes, we're over here, no now we're over here, straight again, no leaning to the left now etc etc etc.....
    Oh! Yeah right. You had not made comment on how it tracked so i assumed you had the caster correction in place and set right. It sounds like you dont and you dont have enough correction causing oversteer. Your forever correcting the steering. Would drive me bonkers.

    Get rid of the caster bushes and fit drop boxes. It will transform the car!! You will be blown away at the difference. Based on this new info id say it could be the main problem. This quite specifically points at the description that Bene explained above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    Oh! Yeah right. You had not made comment on how it tracked so i assumed you had the caster correction in place and set right. It sounds like you dont and you dont have enough correction causing oversteer. Your forever correcting the steering. Would drive me bonkers.

    Get rid of the caster bushes and fit drop boxes. It will transform the car!! You will be blown away at the difference. Based on this new info id say it could be the main problem. This quite specifically points at the description that Bene explained above.
    Done! But I reckon the teeth jarring that occurs when I hit a pot hole or bump in the road would still be stiff shockers right?

    I'm happy to spend some $$$s as this is my daily driver & I travel on crap country roads 7 days a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10G View Post
    Done! But I reckon the teeth jarring that occurs when I hit a pot hole or bump in the road would still be stiff shockers right?

    I'm happy to spend some $$$s as this is my daily driver & I travel on crap country roads 7 days a week.
    Do the drop boxes and take it for a drive and see what you think. The drop boxes drop the back of the radius arms which changes the pivot of them and the angle which the wheel hits the bump.

    At the moment the wheel actually moves forwad as it compresses the suspension, once the drop boxes are in the travel up will be far more nuetral and much smoother as there will be little to no forward movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    Do the drop boxes and take it for a drive and see what you think. The drop boxes drop the back of the radius arms which changes the pivot of them and the angle which the wheel hits the bump.

    At the moment the wheel actually moves forwad as it compresses the suspension, once the drop boxes are in the travel up will be far more nuetral and much smoother as there will be little to no forward movement.
    OK, I'll give it a go, thanks for your help, it's greatly appreciated.
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    Drop boxes ordered, 2 week delay for manufacturing.
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    OK, so an update.

    Fitted 4 x adjustable 45mm Tough Dog shocks about a month ago now. They've made a massive difference, they've removed the sharp teeth shattering bumps I was getting from the road.

    Ran them during my Madigan trip and they got a massive work out, they got incredibly hot but seemed to hold up pretty well.

    The Superior drop boxes have arrived and I'm getting them fitted with new radius arm bushes this week, so I'm hoping that will fix the wandering steering problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10G View Post
    OK, so an update.

    Fitted 4 x adjustable 45mm Tough Dog shocks about a month ago now. They've made a massive difference, they've removed the sharp teeth shattering bumps I was getting from the road.

    Ran them during my Madigan trip and they got a massive work out, they got incredibly hot but seemed to hold up pretty well.

    The Superior drop boxes have arrived and I'm getting them fitted with new radius arm bushes this week, so I'm hoping that will fix the wandering steering problem.
    Thats great. Make sure they fit Nissan rubber bushes. Or buy them from nissan ans give them to the guy fitting to ensure you get OEM bushes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    Thats great. Make sure they fit Nissan rubber bushes. Or buy them from nissan ans give them to the guy fitting to ensure you get OEM bushes.
    Yep a got a set of new OEM bushes from Patrolapart.
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