compliance plate required for removing seats?

[Gordy]

Hi Guys,
i have a LWB GQ and have just been advised that if i remove the Dicky rear seats from the vehicle i will require to get a compliance plate for this? Does anyone know if this is correct?
I sometimes remove these, probably once a year at present for our long camping trips to provide more room, but it has concerned me somewhat that you just simply cannot jump from 5 seats to 7 seats without beaurocratic rubbish. If I decided to remove them permanently, need compliance, decide to place them back in, another compliance plate, surely this cannot be the case?

Gordy

[Bob]

Hi Guys,
i have a LWB GQ and have just been advised that if i remove the Dicky rear seats from the vehicle i will require to get a compliance plate for this? Does anyone know if this is correct?
I sometimes remove these, probably once a year at present for our long camping trips to provide more room, but it has concerned me somewhat that you just simply cannot jump from 5 seats to 7 seats without beaurocratic rubbish. If I decided to remove them permanently, need compliance, decide to place them back in, another compliance plate, surely this cannot be the case?

Gordy

80% of Patrols have there Dicky Seats removed. Would be a lot of illegal Trolls out there. I cant imagine that it is a requirement but then again beaurocratic Richard Cranium probably thought up some reason. LOL

[timbar]

Hi Guys,
i have a LWB GQ and have just been advised that if i remove the Dicky rear seats from the vehicle i will require to get a compliance plate for this? Does anyone know if this is correct?
I sometimes remove these, probably once a year at present for our long camping trips to provide more room, but it has concerned me somewhat that you just simply cannot jump from 5 seats to 7 seats without beaurocratic rubbish. If I decided to remove them permanently, need compliance, decide to place them back in, another compliance plate, surely this cannot be the case?

Gordy

never heard of it on the west coast putting one in i could understand but taking on out cant see it ???? will be following this one good call

[Gordy]

Will try and get a picture of the offending compliance plate and the code off of it. This may take a few days for me to get the info and figure out how to post Pictures but will get onto it. Once i have the numbers off of it i can then contact someone that can decipher the codes, the guy that owned the vehicle assumed that the plate was for the seat removal, but sure will be interesting to confirm

[Silver]

I just googled Queensland Transport removing seat

and got this result

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/a1...orvehicles.pdf

In this case Bob, the bureucratic Richard Craniums seem to have come up with at least a semi common sense solution :-) - of course it remains with the operator to use some common sense and make sure they say the right thing when asked by Transport or the coppers, and to retain the seat and fittings if they ever intend to sell.

[AB]

Extract from Silvers link...

The main principal that needs to be addressed when assessing the
removal of seats is whether the vehicle is actually modified or has just
been reconfigured in accordance with the manufacturers various options.
If seats are reconfigured, no modification occurs and approval is not

required.

·

For vehicles fitted with quick release seating attachments as

original equipment, temporary removal of the seats is
acceptable. A Modification Plate does not need to be fitted.
This is commonly the case for four wheel drives and people
movers.

·

For vehicles fitted with bolt in seating structures, no approval by

an Approved Person is necessary for the temporary removal of
seats, provided the category of the vehicle does not change as a
result of the seating reduction.

·

Vehicles with the permanent removal of seating structures must

be approved by an Approved Person and a Modification Plate
must be fitted for the reduction in seating capacity.
In this circumstance, any change in vehicle category must also
be taken into consideration prior to the fitting of the Modification

Plate.

[Bob]

Extract from Vic Roads

Removing seats
The requirements for removing seats will vary depending on:

the original number of seating positions
the new number of seating positions
which seats are removed
when the vehicle was manufactured

An Approval Certificate is not required if:

the number of original seating positions was less than 10
10 or more seating positions have been reduced to 2 - 3 seats in the front row only
10 or more seating positions have been reduced to 4 - 9 seats in a vehicle manufactured before 1970
more than 12 seating positions have been reduced to 10-12 seats in a vehicle manufactured before 1986
the number of seating positions does not reduce to below 13

If the modification is not listed above an Approval Certificate is required.




Replacing seats
An Approval Certificate is not required for a replacement seat provided:

the seat is offered by the manufacturer as an option and is replacing and existing seat
the original seat mountings are used
appropriate seat belts are fitted.
An Approval Certificate is required if:
the replacement seat was not offered by the manufacturer as an option
the vehicle was manufactured on or after 1 January 1969.

[Silver]

G'day Bob and AB

Bob, on my screen the less than 10 seat answer is in bold, but in a little font.

AB, I used to know how to cut and paste in earlier versions of internet explorer, but have been left behind by the later versions :-) Thanks!!

[Gordy]

LIGHT VEHICLE MODIFICATION CODES FOR APPROVED PERSONS

CODE MODIFICATION
LA1 Engine Substitution
LA3 Turbocharger and Supercharger Installation
LB1 Transmission Substitution
LD1 Rear Axle Replacement
LD2 Differential Substitution
LG1 Brake System Substitution (Design)
LG2 Brake System Substitution (Modification)
LH1 Convertible and Cabriolet Conversion (Design)
LH2 Convertible and Cabriolet Conversion (Modification)
LH3 Passenger Vehicle Extended Wheelbase Conversion (Design)
LH4 Passenger Vehicle Extended Wheelbase Conversion (Modification)
LH5 Individual and Low Volume Vehicles (Design)
LH6 Individual and Low Volume Vehicles (Modification)
LH7 Panel Van to Utility Conversion
LH8 Roll Bar and Roll Cage Installation
LH9 Street Rod Certification (Concessional Registration)
LH10 Street Rod Certification (Unrestricted Registration)
LK1 Seating Capacity Alteration and Seat Belt Installation
LK2 Seat, Seat Anchorage and Seat Belt Anchorage Certification
LK6 Child Restraint Anchorage Installation
LK7 Motorcycle Seating Capacity Alteration
LM1 Fuel Tank Alteration
LO1 Australian Design Rule (ADR) Compliance
LO2 Pre 1972 Imported Vehicle Safety Compliance
LO3 Personally Imported Vehicle Compliance
LS1 Steering Conversion (Design)
LS2 Steering Conversion (Modification)
LT1 Beaming and Torsional Testing

OK,
posting pics isnt my strong point but the mod codes are above. I am glad to hear that we can Temporarily remove seats from the vehicle. My mate has a modification plate LK1 attached to his car, had it re-registered in Caboolture, Qld and had to have the plate fitted as he no longer had the seats available for re-fitment. Phew,
thanks all for the great information

[Bob]

G'day Bob and AB

Bob, on my screen the less than 10 seat answer is in bold, but in a little font.

AB, I used to know how to cut and paste in earlier versions of internet explorer, but have been left behind by the later versions :-) Thanks!!

I changed the font size when I edited it