No more gcm upgrades on new vehicles

[PeeBee]

Its got too much junk on it, yes, its heavy, won't say on here because you just don't know who is reading this. PM sent Ben

[Plasnart]

Fair call @Cuppa . So you got a GVM upgrade but not a GCM upgrade. Why then this news that no GCM allowable in future? Previously if you had a GVM upgrade did that automatically mean a GCM increase also, or is this latest news something that has always just been??

[Cuppa]

Fair call @Cuppa . So you got a GVM upgrade but not a GCM upgrade. Why then this news that no GCM allowable in future? Previously if you had a GVM upgrade did that automatically mean a GCM increase also, or is this latest news something that has always just been??

As I said, I believe there were some 'anomalies' where some vehicles (not Patrols) *did* get an automatic GCM increase with a GVM upgrade & these new rules are about stopping that.

[PeeBee]

It was explained to me when my GVM upgrade was done that the GCM remained the same, so yes, less towing capacity, no doubt due to braking I suspect on vehicle and trailer etc. Plus, what worries me more is the power of the tow vehicle being able to control a zig zag moment and accelerate out of it - I wonder about the elevated towing capacities of the new utes out there and where the weight is sitting for stability.

[Cuppa]

Its got too much junk on it, yes, its heavy.

It's either within it's GVM or it isn't. If you had a GVM upgraded I don't think you could get an upgrade which would only leave 100kg towing capacity. In my car for that to be the case the GVM upgrade would have had to be from 3400kg to 5800kg & that was never going to be allowed. The GCM remains at 5900kg with the GVM at 3900kg.

[PeeBee]

Edit: Got everything under the sun in that beast! @PeeBee FYI

Thanks plassy

[Plasnart]

As I said, I believe there were some 'anomalies' where some vehicles (not Patrols) *did* get an automatic GCM increase with a GVM upgrade & these new rules are about stopping that.

It's all a bit much for me to comprehend tonight that some vehicles (but not patrols) got automatic GCM upgrades. If not a patrol then what vehicle did? If smaller vehicles were getting automatic GCM upgrades after GVM upgrades then this new rule makes sense.

[PeeBee]

It's either within it's GVM or it isn't. If you had a GVM upgraded I don't think you could get an upgrade which would only leave 100kg towing capacity. In my car for that to be the case the GVM upgrade would have had to be from 3400kg to 5800kg & that was never going to be allowed. The GCM remains at 5900kg with the GVM at 3900kg.

Cuppa, just joking re the limit, as @AB pointed out I am probably in the negative anyway!!!! The limiting factor is the gazetted load capacity of the factory front and rear axle assemblies, unless you do a certified diff strengthening activity which I think lovells do with their upgrade? I did not go that path with mine, however will add the kit more to keep the housing straighter for longer.

[Cuppa]

It's all a bit much for me to comprehend tonight that some vehicles (but not patrols) got automatic GCM upgrades. If not a patrol then what vehicle did? If smaller vehicles were getting automatic GCM upgrades after GVM upgrades then this new rule makes sense.

Not sure that I fully understand it Plassy, but I *think* it may have been something to do federal approvals vs State approvals. If you look at this link you can see that Patrols only got State approval ie. legal to drive anywhere in Oz with upgraded GVM but can only be sold with upgraded GVM in the state where the upgrade was approved. If selling interstate it requires a new approval. Folk with 'cruisers were getting upgraded GCM's.

[mudnut]

Have a gander at the prices of the big Chevs, Fords etc. Do you think the heavier caravans on the market will loose a lot of their resale value very quickly?