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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nando View Post
    Honestly i work with diesel trucks everyday of my life and truth be told if nissan had the 5ltr v8 cummins diesel in it id buy it over the petrol everyday of the week. However they dont and the v8 petrol is a smart choice as a result. Diesels with dpf's and egr's need serious milage and hours put on them weekly, and you might find this hard to believe but a good thrashing every other day. Worst thing you can do is drive around like miss daisy and start clogging up the whole system.
    The v8 in the Patrol does have a lot of benefits but if pushed it will drink more than an Ashes winning Australian team combined. In saying that the running costs over 150000kms would probably be cheaper to run than a 200 diesel for example. If a fuel system component goes on a modern day diesel get ready to pay big dollars, probably enough to fuel your patrol for the next 2 years and considering the cheaper entry price when buying your miles ahead.


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    Generally a true statement on DPFs - but that's not the problem with the 2.8's on the Prado, Hilux or Fortuner. It's a design fault that has them unable to reach operating temperatures above around 80km/h. They receive too much wind at over 100km/h, which means they don't hit operating temperatures. What I have said comes from emails I have from Toyota Head Office, and is also from the Japanese Engineer that came out and spoke with him in February to look at my vehicle. It was after around two months of me complaining and being fobbed off with the 'take it out and give it a drive' thing from every mechanic and wannabe from Toyota. And I have never been too much of a light-foot (except so far on the Y62 - I'll give it a couple of thousand kilometres. Not to say I haven't booted it whenever someone new jumps in...). They have changed an ECU to hit a Regen far more often and added a paragraph to the Owners Manual - and that's it for now.

    I put on 62,000km on the 2016 Prado in the 18 months I had it. It was not a school-run van. Add a loss of compression in a cylinder (apparently a first for this - hence the Japanese coming to have a look), a huge squealing sound coming from around the DPF (but it wasn't the DPF - they put 5 x microphones around it to check) and ridiculous week-long drop-off's at Toyota so they could try and fix it and I gave up. That's before the EGR needed a clean, even though I had a catch-can (Provent200 - so one of the best and an original one) - which Toyota did for free as a sign of good will. Can't fault the fact they tried to help - they really did. But it's a design fault that I was told I didn't need to worry about as they'd always be able to fix it again - great advice for the middle of the West Mcdonnell Ranges. I also countered about the 3.0L injector issues and asked if they were doing them for free for previous customers... I have emails from Toyota indicating a more permanent fix is in the testing phase, for release October this year. I couldn't wait that long. Whoever is first to the market with a high-flow Turbo-Back and inclusive of a high-flow DPF that is made for Prado and Hilux will make a killing...

    I'll take a simple, non-DPF, non-EGR, non-Turbo motor any day of the week. Those three things rule out diesel in Australia now - so Petrol for me all the way! And if you're shopping for that, you have (if you need 6+ seats as I do) the Y62, LC200, Range Rover or the G-wagon (until the Disco5 comes out with a petrol ingenium engine). With 5 seats or less, add Jeep and Velar I guess... the list isn't huge.

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