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4th May 2017, 03:31 PM
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Wood heater flues...
I went past the local wood heater shop today and asked about flues and the cost etc etc as I bought a second hand Alpine Koziosko wood heater back in Jan to go in the rumpus/ cave under the house. Its getting bloody cold here now so I thought to start looking into what I need, how much I am up for and whether I will just leave it and freeze over winter. Lol. We have a gas ducted heater upstairs in the house, but its old, one of those Vulcan Compact 60 upright heaters and its old, did I mention that, and I need to manually switch the fan off at the wall otherwise it wont turn off. Anyhow, its kinda struggling to heat the house and if I get the wood fire heater up and going, under the house, I can use that to warm up under there and this will work really well to heat upstairs.
So at the shop I give him lengths etc etc and he came back to me with a quote of $1500 just in parts for the flue! Eh! Now he did mumble something about the flue pipe being triple skinned. Maybe this is why it was so expensive? I also need a wall penetration kit, the one they are selling looked the goods, made by Flomet, it comes out of the wall at 90degress and had a inspection cap built into and the base for ease of cleaning. I reckon I needed around 6 metres of flue to go outside.
So do I really need to get this triple skinned stuff? Or can I use single wall 6 inch stainless pipe? If I can, I'm sure I can find this stuff cheap second hand somewhere. Ive got the flue and guard for inside to go ontop of the heater, and the flue cap, but apart from the wall penetration kit, i need to run it up the wall outside about 6metre or so I reckon.
Cheers.
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4th May 2017 03:31 PM
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4th May 2017, 03:45 PM
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Legendary
By law if it's exposed it has to be triple skin , the reason is because if the flue is in close proximity to anything , usually walls or ceilings the radiant heat will eventually set fire to anything combustible that's close to it .
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4th May 2017, 03:46 PM
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Enjoying the trips
My brother runs a flue straight up through the house and out the roof. He figures some heat from the flue heats up stairs too. Single flue of course. Ours is double skin? In the roof void and out through
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4th May 2017, 04:04 PM
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Expert
Not sure about the law side of things (probably varies state-to-state anyway), but if you value your house, don't cut corners with this IMHO. The number of call-outs the firies get this time of year due to bad installs increases dramatically from what I remember...
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4th May 2017, 04:13 PM
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Patrol God
Looking at the heater situation here we found that the triple skin pipe is required in the void and out through the roof
to be done by a plummer and signed off by the plummer and for the insurance so as GQTdauto says it by law now
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4th May 2017, 05:00 PM
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Patrol God
2 things,
a. its illegal to buy sell or install a secondhand wood heater made prior to 8 aug last yr and if you do and the worst happens you will risk the insurance co knocking back the claim on a technicality.
b. if you do decide to do it i would go triple skin and depending where it goes and if the upper floor is timber try to go directly up as it will draw better and you can get some heat in the room upstairs, you will need a normal triple flue kit, cost here $450, a floor penetration kit $200, extra single skin flue and a mesh for upstairs and a dropbox with a 8" opening to take the mesh, this dropbox would need to be raked to suit the ceiling or flat if its flat, hope that helps. feel free to pm me
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4th May 2017, 05:25 PM
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Rotaredom
Originally Posted by
Stropp
2 things,
a. its illegal to buy sell or install a secondhand wood heater made prior to 8 aug last yr
Happen 2 know the reason why? Sounds odd, maybe something made 20 odd years ago but 1 year
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4th May 2017, 05:29 PM
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The 747
Originally Posted by
NissanGQ4.2
Happen 2 know the reason why? Sounds odd, maybe something made 20 odd years ago but 1 year
Would be something to do with emissions for sure.
Amy's mum is ripping her 20yr old wood heater which is going straight in my shed. Keen as for that.
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4th May 2017, 06:00 PM
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Rotaredom
Originally Posted by
Winnie
Would be something to do with emissions for sure.
Amy's mum is ripping her 20yr old wood heater which is going straight in my shed. Keen as for that.
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Um ma, that's illegal!!!!! *L*
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4th May 2017, 06:11 PM
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SUCH IS LIFE
Bugger the three skin! Whack a single skin on and modify the flue so you can shut it off like the old turbo 10...lol OK OK maybe not
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