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    Forgot to mention the suspension is gvm upgraded and engineered in Victoria as it sits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by my third 256 View Post
    just a thought guys but the main problem with air bags is when used with leaf springs
    oh yes there has been problems with coils too but not as many
    and many people use them for the wrong reason
    like wanting to be a wedge driving down the toad with the ass soo high up in the air
    just my opinion fellas dont shoot me down will you
    I was of the opinion that air bags gave a canterlever effect.
    but all sorted now by the sounds of it, how did they straighten the chassis.??
    04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there

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    Quote Originally Posted by macca View Post
    Mark did the OEM bump stops stay in the car? A mate had a full airbag replacement of the coils in his GU and it was always heavy, he swore by it and never had an issue. It still gets around here and has never had any trouble as far as I know.
    My apologies Macca, re-read your post with both eyes open to see you were talking about airbags on your leafies mate. In regards my setup, yes PatrolApart had to install extended bump stops they found needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macca View Post
    After your experience Cuppa I was surprised when he said we will do an upgrade with the Tough Dog's instead of the Bilstein's.
    Their Engineer is responsive to alternatives packages and was happy to sign it off. Pushed me toward an engineered report as there is $1100.00 in new shocks under there that could stay.

    There was one shock showing signs of leaking so all 4 were replaced, that's after 6 years of use and punishment as Mark said.

    The Engineer was quite informative and complimented me on using good gear right through the car, he said it braked better than any GU he had driven at that weight, when he found out it had EBC GreenStuff pads on the RDA Slotted Rotors up front he no wonder it stops - they are the best!

    That is information from NissanPatrol.com. great source of real world testing is reported here so we buy once!
    I suspect that if you had a 3L Patrol (for which Lovells have the approval without need for additional 'engineering') you would have had to use the Lovells shocks (unless prepared to pay the extra for engineering). My experience probably reflected the supplier/installers understanding of the requirements, but as like you I have a 4.2 which needed the additional 'engineering, (because Lovells dont have an approval for it even though all the other details of the vehicle are the same as the 3.0) if I were going through the process again I would insist upon my own choice of shocks, not because I have any problem with the Lovells shocks, just that I have a history of being very happy with Konis on a variety of vehicles.

    I put the Greenstuff/RDA's on mine after the GVM upgrade. Was surprised (but relieved) it passed the engineers dynamic braking tests with the factory set up! The new front coils & brake proportioning adjustment which I have read somewhere being described as a 'mickey mouse' way of avoiding the need for brake upgrades to go with the added weight is pretty good eh? Part of the requirements of the upgrade is to ensure virtually no 'nose dive' under heavy braking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threedogs View Post
    I was of the opinion that air bags gave a canterlever effect.
    but all sorted now by the sounds of it, how did they straighten the chassis.??
    Don't know, drop it off come back 2 &1/2 day later to pick up.
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