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    Yep, that's what these units come with.

    EDIT: Actually, it came with the pump they sell, not with the unit itself.
    Last edited by Winnie; 21st July 2016 at 10:56 AM.

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    When I have a camper I'll get one of these for sure


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    @ Yendor

    Sorry for the delayed response. I thought I’d receive email updates for new posts, but I must have missed the option?

    Firstly, really good question.

    I have seen the post with that image on the FB page. Personally, I think it boils down to user fault. This wouldn’t have happened if the user used soapy water to check for leaks. For me, this is common practice with my gas appliances such as my HOTTAP and my BBQ.

    Portable water heaters need to pass rigorous testing in order to get compliance to be legally sold within Australia (or whichever country they are being sold in – for example, NZ needs a separate approval). So, first step would be is to ensure the unit you are looking at has relevant approval. I’m pretty sure the unit in the image has relevant approval.

    In terms of the fire spurting under the unit, my experience tells me that one of two things has happened;

    1. Cracked gas assembly
    2. Loose connection/ fitting

    A cracked gas assembly can come about from being dropped/ knocked hard on the gas valve or from over-tightening. From factory (our units and most likely others) are tested before they are shipped here to our warehouse. So, it is highly unlikely to have a cracked assembly from brand new.

    I’m pretty certain that the fault in the image was due to a loose/ faulty gas connection (not to do with the unit).

    In terms of safeguards, like I mentioned before, make sure the unit you want to get has relevant approvals. Aside from this, I highly recommend using soapy water to check for gas leaks. This is a cheap and easy way to start covering yourself from potential danger. Also, use a spanner to tighten the connection – no hand tightening.

    In saying this, these types of units (eg.: HOTTAP) are actually pretty safe. No pilot light, just a piezo to spark up – similar to your BBQ. Over temperature sensors, flame sensors (cuts out if senses no flame: stops release of gas into atmosphere). They’re not made to spit out flames, they’re made to heat up water.

    @ NissanGQ4.2

    Thanks for that! I may look into it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    I want to make some sort of ground spike bracket for mine, a star picket would do the job.
    I'm not a fan of the drawbar mount, it means you have to have the shower setup within a couple of metres of the trailer, and if you're a fan of long hot showers like me then you end up with a muddy mess around and under the camper.

    But on a freezing cold morning camping there is not much better than jumping in the shower for half an hour, pumping water out of the creek so you don't have to fill buckets. Once it is set up it is effortless to use.
    Half an hour?? How's the water bill mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasnart View Post
    Half an hour?? How's the water bill mate?
    So worth it!

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    Bumped for Bart as his last post went into moderation.....
    bart@Jalcoola when tagging someone don't put a space between the @ symbol and there user name as they won't get a notification saying they have been tagged in a post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart@Joolca View Post
    @ Yendor

    Sorry for the delayed response. I thought I’d receive email updates for new posts, but I must have missed the option?

    Firstly, really good question.

    I have seen the post with that image on the FB page. Personally, I think it boils down to user fault. This wouldn’t have happened if the user used soapy water to check for leaks. For me, this is common practice with my gas appliances such as my HOTTAP and my BBQ.

    Portable water heaters need to pass rigorous testing in order to get compliance to be legally sold within Australia (or whichever country they are being sold in – for example, NZ needs a separate approval). So, first step would be is to ensure the unit you are looking at has relevant approval. I’m pretty sure the unit in the image has relevant approval.

    In terms of the fire spurting under the unit, my experience tells me that one of two things has happened;

    1. Cracked gas assembly
    2. Loose connection/ fitting


    A cracked gas assembly can come about from being dropped/ knocked hard on the gas valve or from over-tightening. From factory (our units and most likely others) are tested before they are shipped here to our warehouse. So, it is highly unlikely to have a cracked assembly from brand new.

    I’m pretty certain that the fault in the image was due to a loose/ faulty gas connection (not to do with the unit).

    In terms of safeguards, like I mentioned before, make sure the unit you want to get has relevant approvals. Aside from this, I highly recommend using soapy water to check for gas leaks. This is a cheap and easy way to start covering yourself from potential danger. Also, use a spanner to tighten the connection – no hand tightening.

    In saying this, these types of units (eg.: HOTTAP) are actually pretty safe. No pilot light, just a piezo to spark up – similar to your BBQ. Over temperature sensors, flame sensors (cuts out if senses no flame: stops release of gas into atmosphere). They’re not made to spit out flames, they’re made to heat up water.

    @ NissanGQ4.2

    Thanks for that! I may look into it
    Hi Bart

    This makes sense. I did notice that the gas bottle didn't appear to be fix to the trolley, so damage could of easily occurred while they were moving it around.

    Thank you for taking the time to reply and explaining the safety features.

    Cheers Rodney

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    Yep, that's what these units come with.

    EDIT: Actually, it came with the pump they sell, not with the unit itself.
    Is this just a non return valve, I like your idea of drawing water from the river.
    Might need a cage etc to stop sticks and stuff, I take it this would work using
    those smaller gas canisters. I have my light poles that would be perfect to
    hang the hand piece off
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    Quote Originally Posted by threedogs View Post
    I like your idea of drawing water from the river.
    Might need a cage etc to stop sticks and stuff.
    http://www.joolca.com.au/screen-filter

    JCA12005.jpg


    Quote Originally Posted by threedogs View Post
    I take it this would work using those smaller gas canisters.
    I don't believe this ones do, only off an lpg cyclinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by threedogs View Post
    Is this just a non return valve, I like your idea of drawing water from the river.
    Might need a cage etc to stop sticks and stuff, I take it this would work using
    those smaller gas canisters. I have my light poles that would be perfect to
    hang the hand piece off
    No its a filter.
    Quote Originally Posted by NissanGQ4.2 View Post
    http://www.joolca.com.au/screen-filter

    JCA12005.jpg




    I don't believe this ones do, only off an lpg cyclinder
    Yep this is the screen filter I have as well.

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