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    you might also think about getting a rear coil tower
    brace fitted to seeing you plan on lots of towing
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    Threedogs, the previous owner installed heavy duty coils and airbags, does this achieve the same as a coil brace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcol View Post
    you Mechanic should be able to fit the EGT & other gauges

    as 4bye4 said, get all the NADs fitted, better to be safe than sorry

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    as you tow with an Auto, I would suggest the Trans Temp gauge as well, but after the other gauges are fitted
    why....?
    same same as EGTs, better to know what its doing on a long run towing
    Quote Originally Posted by 4bye4 View Post
    Hey Col we should set Ropes up for an NADS installation trip. Just sayin


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    an interesting idea

    I think it would have to be a 2 part "trip" though

    1st part
    explaining what is required and why - and what bits and bobs are needed

    2nd part
    actual fitting

    sounds good to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by watto1416 View Post
    Threedogs, the previous owner installed heavy duty coils and airbags, does this achieve the same as a coil brace?
    No they are seperate issues but bracing should be done for heavy loads and you should check if it was.

    Heavy coils/airbags are to assist in suspension levelling which intimates heavier than average load on the rear towers
    Patrols are known to develop cracks in the rear towers even with factory spring set up.
    If you fit heavy coils and airbags and load the vehicle accordingly it is pretty much a 'must do'.

    Fixing the cracks is waaaaay more hassle and expense than fitting the braces prior to having an issue
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    Please don't advise people that the factory trans temp light in the dash is ok to use as an indication of trans temp being ok.
    That light comes on at 140 degrees C which means you're in the process of shorting your trans life if you're using non synthetic fluid. It's widely accepted that fluid temps over 120 are doing damage.

    If you're towing with an auto, get a trans temp gauge, a larger fluid cooler and manual TC lockup fitted.
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    Being new to diesels,,,, Im used to towing with my chev Petrol V8 troopy sitting
    on 2000 rpm, thinking the lowr the the revs the better,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now Im
    Towing with the ZD30 sitting on 2200rpm with an auto are you saying I should
    take the OD off and cruise at 2600 rpm

    Hear ppl here saying the were towing stting on XXXX and EGTs were very low
    maybe they had the OD off.
    What revs does a manual ZD30 sit on at 110 kph ?
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    I could Google it but i would undoubtedly get a better reply here....whats is NADS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by watto1416 View Post
    I could Google it but i would undoubtedly get a better reply here....whats is NADS?
    Slang acronym for "Nissan Anti Detonation System"

    Possibly lowers the risk of burning holes in #3 or #4 Piston
    It involves taking boost control away from the ECU plus a few other things.
    Generally speaking it involves Dawes Valve and Needle Valve to control boost and optionals like Catch Can, EGR block, etc

    Again, generally, considered as not needed for CRD's altho EGR blocks and Catch Cans are great for reducing soot and contaminates in any engine

    About the one thing everyone agrees on is that dirty MAF sensors are a major problem and definitely have a part to play in poor performance and possibly premature engine failures due to incorrect fuelling or boost
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    Quote Originally Posted by jff45 View Post
    Please don't advise people that the factory trans temp light in the dash is ok to use as an indication of trans temp being ok.
    That light comes on at 140 degrees C which means you're in the process of shorting your trans life if you're using non synthetic fluid. It's widely accepted that fluid temps over 120 are doing damage.

    If you're towing with an auto, get a trans temp gauge, a larger fluid cooler and manual TC lockup fitted.
    could you suggest a bigger trans cooler size wise please
    more to the point what size does a ZD30 have now,and would a fan
    assist whats there now
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    Quote Originally Posted by threedogs View Post
    could you suggest a bigger trans cooler size wise please
    more to the point what size does a ZD30 have now,and would a fan
    assist whats there now
    The ZD30 factory cooler is actually pretty good. It's easily twice the size of the factory cooler on the TB45.
    I would fit a trans temp gauge first along with a manual TC lockup to limit the locking/unlocking that generates heat and let the gauge tell you if you need better cooling.
    No different to a good engine temp gauge telling you that need to enhance your cooling system..
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