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    Quote Originally Posted by biggqwesty View Post
    But not a gq in aus
    It was a dealer option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nissannewby View Post
    It was a dealer option.
    Really. So why so many issues with cops, engineering etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggqwesty View Post
    But not a gq in aus
    Not a GQ but a Nissan Patrol.
    When I had my EA Falcon, it had a 3.9L
    I swapped it for a 4L from an EL. The 4L was not available in the EA but vicroads were fine with me registering it with that motor because it was from a Ford Falcon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggqwesty View Post
    Really. So why so many issues with cops, engineering etc?
    Misinformed cops and vehicle operators.

    As far as I'm aware you can have all the engineering in the world but it can still be called illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    Not a GQ but a Nissan Patrol.
    When I had my EA Falcon, it had a 3.9L
    I swapped it for a 4L from an EL. The 4L was not available in the EA but vicroads were fine with me registering it with that motor because it was from a Ford Falcon.
    So with that logic, I could fit a TB48 with a carby into my Q?
    My advice is: not to follow my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggqwesty View Post
    But not a gq in aus
    Dealer optioned mate


    Edit.... nevermind


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    Quote Originally Posted by mudnut View Post
    So with that logic, I could fit a TB48 with a carby into my Q?
    No. Well yes. No without an engies, yes with an engies....
    Words from Vic Roads when I did the conversion. The motor must come from the same make and model vehicle...

    Here's a snip from their website
    " Change of engine


    There are 3 scenarios that could apply when changing an engine.
    Change of engine - scenario 1


    • The replacement engine is identical to the original engine.
    • The replacement engine is an option allowed by the manufacturer for the same model vehicle.

    Documents required:

    • if the engine is optional to the original, a signed declaration from the registered operator, motor mechanic, or dealer in that make of vehicle or an Automotive Engineer certifying the engine is optional for the vehicle model, and that all modifications made by the manufacturer for the same vehicle model with that optional engine have been completed "


    And the link to read from....
    https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/registration/vehicle-modifications-and-defects/vehicle-modifications/notify-vicroads-of-changes-and-modifications


    I know when I approached VR about this I need proof of the optioned motor. I rang Nissan head office and they emailed me the original flyer for the year my car came out. It had all the options listed. VR were happy with that. I wonder if they the GQ flyer still....
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    Here is another Engineer I spoke to today. Which is NOT in the listed of VASS approved engineers, although he is. It seems the list we get is outdated somewhat. He does NOT do suspension though, only engines, he advised me that Talk Torque Automotive in Eltham do. (He's listed in the VASS engineers approved link) But you think i can get a hold of this guy?

    http://www.bonneville.com.au/

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    Thanks. I was talking to the Dyno guy today, while he was tuning a racing commodore that had an ecotech V6 fitted with a holley. It got me thinking about what to do if/when the Rb30 ever gives up the ghost.
    My advice is: not to follow my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    I'm covered! Nissan did offer a turbo TD42 patrol, and mine puts out 119kW!
    In Vic its 20% of the total power output. So if your over that, technically you need an engineers report.
    Snip from VSB14, section LA page 30

    "SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS

    The following requirements apply to turbocharger and supercharger installations.
    1 CERTIFICATION OPTIONS

    Forced induction conversions such as turbocharging or supercharging have the capacity to
    substantially increase a vehicle’s power and performance and are generally considered on the
    same basis as a performance engine conversion.
    The following are the options for certifying turbocharger and supercharger installations:
     A turbocharger (or supercharger) installation does not require certification, if the
    installation is available as an option from the original vehicle manufacturer. All vehicle
    components that were supplied by the manufacturer as part of the original specification
    for the turbocharged vehicle must also be fitted.
     A turbocharger (or supercharger) installation can be performed under Code LA1 only if
    the original engine was supplied with a turbocharged option and a non original equipment
    turbocharger (or supercharger) is fitted that does not increase the original most powerful
    engine power output by more than 20%.
     A non original equipment engine with its turbocharger/supercharger may be installed
    under Code LA1 provided the power output is not 20% more than"


    20 percent wouldn't be that hard to achieve I think for just about any engine. Especially the late model CRD's. I saw a V8 crusier in one of the 4wd mags. It was chipped and it went from something like 119kw to 190kw! Just from a chip.


    Seems this may be more difficult just to get someone than actually getting the certificate. Rang two, one can't, the other just didn't sound interested. The one I need to talk to won't ring back. Ugh! I'll give it a few weeks and I will just ring Brett up at 4x4 Obsession I think.
    Mental note. Get rid of my headlights first. Lol.
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