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    Good luck with opening up this can of worms guys,

    Not sure in other States but in NSW all mods have to be certified by a licensed certifier no longer an engineer.

    And the reason they charge so much is probably 2 do with this

    "As a certifier, you need to hold $20 million public liability insurance and $5 million professional indemnity insurance"

    And the fact there is no set charge, its just negotiated between certifiers and their customers.




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    Modified and non-standard vehicles

    http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/regi...nstandard.html

    Vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Scheme (VSCCS)

    http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-i...ccs/index.html
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    Sa body and chassis mods..
    Also a list to all certified engineers in sa. Nick I'm pretty sure in the bloke I spoke to..

    https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transpo...-modifications

    Suspension Mods SA
    https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transpo...n-modification

    Aftermarket mods
    https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transpo...ket-components

    I Did not know turbo timers were illegal..
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    Quote Originally Posted by NissanGQ4.2 View Post
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    And the reason they charge so much is probably 2 do with this

    "As a certifier, you need to hold $20 million public liability insurance and $5 million professional indemnity insurance"

    And the fact there is no set charge, its just negotiated between certifiers and their customers.

    Plus they will need to hold the insurance for a minimum of 5 years after they cease certifications and the kicker is not the amount (every tradey etc has at least that amount) but the risk of the vocation. In the case of Automotive related businesses the risk that you will get involved in law suits is astronomically high to say a Fridge Tech or a PC repairer

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    I Did not know turbo timers were illegal..
    I did but every time I post it up the fact it ends up starting an 'animated discussion' so I gave up...

    But I applaud the intent of the thread and perhaps a 'cut and paste' of all links as they filter in could be either collated and added to the first post of the thread or put up as a sticky?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NissanGQ4.2 View Post
    Good luck with opening up this can of worms guys,

    Not sure in other States but in NSW all mods have to be certified by a licensed certifier no longer an engineer.

    And the reason they charge so much is probably 2 do with this

    "As a certifier, you need to hold $20 million public liability insurance and $5 million professional indemnity insurance"

    And the fact there is no set charge, its just negotiated between certifiers and their customers.

    Wouldn't think the 20mil public liability insurance would be the deal breaker. I have it on my other business and its only $2500 p/a for it. I think it just more of a case of its a specialised thing so we charge a specialised price. Lol

    Edit : What ET said.
    I could cut and paste the links into state by state in the OP. I think will help scanning through threads???

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    From what I can gather, you cannot engineer 35s on Nissan axles.
    From my limited understanding from the jibberish in some of these links. The ruling on 35's isn't governed on vehicle vendor. Its more so just on the size of the tyre. I found no words, so far, mentioning Nissan Patrol.
    Last edited by mudski; 3rd February 2016 at 10:32 PM.

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    With so much 4wds out that are probably illegal this is a good thing. Well done Mudski for starting.

    I thing I can't understand is why every state needs to be different. Makes not sense.

    Me I don't have any attentions to be going overly modified, but I would like to be able to run at least a 35" out on the tracks. Safely and Legally.
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    4.5lt Gas blower. Lots of mods to come.....all in good time.

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    Added WA to the OP and have made this a sticky
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    Wouldn't think the 20mil public liability insurance would be the deal breaker. I have it on my other business and its only $2500 p/a for it. I think it just more of a case of its a specialised thing so we charge a specialised price. Lol
    You'll find the premium for the same $ value of cover probably varies wildly depending on the nature of the business (sama sama as Car Comprehensive Insurance)
    IE a low risk business will pay waaay less than, say, a business that repos' Harleys...
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    I wonder how many vehicles have aftermarket turbo's that need certification

    From NSW VSI6

    Examples requiring certification:

    • Fitting a turbocharger/supercharger to any vehicle of a make and model not offered with a turbocharger/supercharger by the manufacturer.

    • Modifications to a vehicle with a power output of 100 kilowatts, which results in a power output of greater than 120 kilowatts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NissanGQ4.2 View Post
    I wonder how many vehicles have aftermarket turbo's that need certification

    From NSW VSI6

    Examples requiring certification:

    • Fitting a turbocharger/supercharger to any vehicle of a make and model not offered with a turbocharger/supercharger by the manufacturer.

    • Modifications to a vehicle with a power output of 100 kilowatts, which results in a power output of greater than 120 kilowatts.
    I'm covered! Nissan did offer a turbo TD42 patrol, and mine puts out 119kW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    I'm covered! Nissan did offer a turbo TD42 patrol, and mine puts out 119kW!
    But not a gq in aus
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