So the though of getting my Patrol engineered has been playing on my mind for quite some time. I have a car I love, I have put my heart and soul into, not to mention money, I have it insured, and well covered, but theres just that one little thing that playing in the back of my head constantly like a tick tock of a ZD30 clock. My mods.
So I though this is the next thing on my list to do before any other mods. BloodyAussie and myself have talking about this and he has spoken with a workshop and was told, two days needed for the car. One day for workshop stuff on the car, I would assume it would be like getting a road worthy done, they will check over everything. And the other day for the Engineer to come in and do their thing... Also a dyno test has to be done if you have added a turbo, or even put a bigger turbo on a factory turbo engine. As in the state of Victoria, if the vehicles total power output exceeds 20% from standard, this means just about every Patrol owner then lol, this needs to be reported on the engineers cert and also an emissions test done. Approximate cost for the two days was $1600. Put a 3inch pipe and chip on your ZD30 and i reckon you'll be pushing the envelope maybe...
Please correct me BA if that or other info is wrong...
I have rang one place local to me, waiting on them to ring, in the meantime I rang another mob also local, and I was told, anything over 50mm total height will need a swerve test performed, "even at 50mm I will need to do a swerve test". I was told. Hmmm. So a air strip or track needs to be hired, and a certified tester is also needed to run the tests on your vehicle. I was then told nearly all tests he has done have failed and the cost for this starts at $2600!!! Holy hell! I'm not sure if I should be naming the engineers I contacted yet? I might wait for the approval from the powers to be on this....
So I have sat down this arvo, made a cuppa and started googling, researching, anything I can find on info that may help me and others out there.
So here is a list of links that I found very interesting to read and if anyone else has links or what ever info that you wish to post up. Please do so. So all of us have one place to go to for info. Also please post us what state to these rules belong to as each state and territory have their own set of rules...
So.
Third Edition ADRs – Applicability Summary Passenger Vehicles
https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/...ry_M_Group.pdf
VICTORIA
Here is a link to the list of Victorian VASS approved engineers around Victoria...
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/~/me...ion.ashx?la=en
An extra Engineer to the list. NOT in the downloadable list....
http://www.bonneville.com.au/
http://www.enkelman.com.au/
This is a great site for info worth reading about the rules, regs and anything in between...
http://www.outbacktravelaustralia.co...dated-jan-2014
See this link for a copy of the Vehicle Standards Bulletin VSB14, supplied in the above link also...
https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/.../vsb_ncop.aspx
See this link for the ADR's. Australian Design Rules.
https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/...rds/index.aspx
This link is from the VSB14, regarding Tyres, Rims, steering and Suspension. Go to pages 70-74. This is in regards to 50-150mm suspension lifts and there is a check list
https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/...ov_2015_v4.pdf
Heres is the NCOP test procedure bulletin. This shows what needs to be done during testing. Go to pages 18-24 for the Lane change test procedures and check list.
https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP12_Section_LT_Test_Procedures_V2_0_1Jan2011_v3 .pdf
Vicroads Guide to Modifications for Motor Vehicles...
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/~/media/files/documents/safety-and-road-rules/vsinumber8guidetomodificationsformotorvehicles.ash x?la=en
Heres a link to the 4wd Council website too...
http://www.4wdcouncil.com.au/
SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Also a list to all certified engineers in sa
https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transpo...-modifications
Suspension Mods SA
https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transport-travel-and-motoring/motoring/vehicles-and-registration/vehicle-standards-and-modifications/suspension-modification
Aftermarket mods
https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transpo...ket-components
NEW SOUTH WALES
Modified and non-standard vehicles
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/regi...nstandard.html
Vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Scheme (VSCCS)
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-i...ccs/index.html
New laws regarding suspension lifts in NSW
https://mr4x4.com.au/4x4-suspension-lift-laws-changed/
WESTERN AUSTRALIA
Department of Transport - Modify or construct a vehicle
http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licen...-a-vehicle.asp
NCOP Discussion forum. Heres another place for some good reading....
http://www.ncop.org.au/forum/
Seems to be overrun by the Russians though.....
Current vehicle lift allowances for all australian states and jurisdictions
http://www.ncop.org.au/wp-content/up...ment-DRAFT.pdf
I'm sure theres plenty more info out there. I hope this can continue on with plenty of healthy and constructive discussions, as to have one place with all the info will be a great help... It would be great to hear from people who have had an engineers test done, and who did it, what was test, and how, and the all important. How much? I hope the links work and enjoy the reading... I have pages printed out spread all over my desk now and I'm still confused as I was before. Lol.
Any info I get from now from the engineers I ring I will be sure to post up...
I took this from NissanGQ4.2's thread in the suspension section... Thanks mate for the info.
Interesting read for all the Vic members.
Victorian Vehicle Certification Requirements relaxed for 4WD owners
Category: LATEST NEWS
The Australian 4WD Industry Council (a Division of the Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association) has been working over many years with State Transport Departments to change Regulation to make it easier for 4WD owners to perform minor modifications to their vehicles to improve handling and safety.
Late 2011, VicRoads released their Guide to Modification for Motor Vehicles Vehicle Standards Information Sheet No 8, which allows ‘Owner Certification’ for ride height increases for 4WD vehicles that would have required "Engineering Certification" under the National Guidelines for vehicle modification.
VicRoads' new VSI 8 regulation permits "Owner Certified" 4WD ride height increases up to 75mm, with 50mm maximum allowed for suspension lift, plus a 25mm increase resulting from fitment of a tyre with 50mm greater outside diameter, provided the modifications are undertaken using a commercially available lift kit that has been specially designed and tested for the vehicle application. Under the national guidelines, 'Owner Certified' lifts are limited to 50mm.
VSI 8 eliminates confusion that previously existed about allowable changes with suspension and / or tyre size. And now 4WD owners do not need to waste time and money on securing an engineering certification to make minor modifications to improve the safety and off road performance of their vehicle.
VSI 08 also addresses the matter of vehicle modifications where the vehicle is fitted with Electronic Stability Control. Electronic Stability Control (ESC) will be a mandated technology on all vehicles sold in Australia from 2013 onwards.
A copy of VSI 08 can be downloaded from the link: http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...orvehicles.pdf .
A copy of VSB14 can be downloaded from the link: http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa.../vsb_ncop.aspx
The 4WD Industry Council strongly encourages owners to purchase vehicle modification products from reputable suppliers.
PRESS RELEASE – February 17th, 2012
http://www.mr4x4.com.au/index.php/latest-news
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...orvehicles.pdf
- Cross Country / Fairline bonnet scoop -
See the links below for the Certificate of Assessment by Cross Country,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9v...d6aWIwMW8/view
and a cut out of Vehicle Standard Bulletin VSB14. Section LH for the Australian standards on whats allowed for bonnet scoops.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9v...V5OEI0NXc/view
- I found a couple of YouTube vids on a swerve test being done. Doesn't seem that hard to fail....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZTe31k2mfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TJl4yqvrPE
If anyone has any aftermarket accessories on their ride and they can supply a certificate of compliance like the Cross Country one to keep things legal and Mr.Plod happy please let me know, pm me or email me the documents and I can add it onto this thread
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