New winch.

[Chubba]

True ET but few don't even know how to do a 4:1 compound system. Many even don't carry enough gear to do a 3:1 pull.

Any chance you boys could explain exactly what you mean here for us cumb dunts. Please.

[outback]

ET should be able to give you a nice write up on how a compound 4:1 MA system goes but here are some pics of systems.
simple tackle.jpg

compound pull.jpg

[the evil twin]

Niiiice pics... much better than a thousand words.

I must highlight that I favour MA rigs to reduce the winch loads and power drain not to increase the "pull".
If a 4 to 5 ton winch (9,000, 9,500 or 12,000 Lbs) stalls out and won't pull your truck out or God forbid, rip the attachement points off your truck then you need to reassess the loads and/or do more shovel work.

Line speed in a 2:1 MA rig is technically halved but real world the reduced load means the winch will rotate faster.
This means you often end up with similarish recovery speed anyway.
The biggest win is for an electric or electro-hydraulic winch setup (not so much for PTO or mechanically driven hydraulics like the power steering jobbies).
Heat, current flow and power drain on the electrics isn't proportional and increases exponentially with load.

[threedogs]

I was going to get the TJM hydraulic but they talked me out of it
not sure why and ended up with a Warn xp9.5

[the evil twin]

Had a WARN 9.5 on my prev rig.
They tools who installed it didn't rotate the motor so the drain was at 9 oclock so it half filled with mud.
Pulled it down, new brushes, cleaned it up, rotated the motor and it worked gangbusters from then on.

Got an Ebay 12,000 on this rig, haven't used it in anger on a recovery yet, just a few odd jobs and so far so good.

Hyd advantages/disadvantages compared to Lekky?
Like everything it's compromises... personally I reckon for a few uses a year or as a 'just in case' then electric winch is the go.

[threedogs]

Agree and you can get 12,000LB winches now for under $500,
and as you stated if you only use it once or twice a year its a win imo.
Would be nice it Mr Nissan fitted a hand throttle or similar,
Used to love jumping out my other 4x4 and give it directions
everyone else wondering who the hell is driving lol
Idling on flat ground only

[the evil twin]

snip...
Would be nice it Mr Nissan fitted a hand throttle or similar,

Hehehe, yet another advantage of my '99 Ubeautute...

[outback]

Would be nice it Mr Nissan fitted a hand throttle or similar,

I am still not full convinced that a form of hand throttle can not be added to the flyby wire 3l Y61's
it would be a DIYS... Its a small matter of trying to link into the accelerator pedal some how.