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    Are HID spotlights illegal in NSW?

    Hi Guys
    I've just had a rego check done on the patrol and was told that my light bar and HID spotties are illegal. Now I know the light bar is because its not in pairs and sits on top of the bar and I'm happy to cop it sweet if I do get pulled over for it because I knew that when I fitted it but since when have HID spotlights been illegal? I know that retrofitted globes into existing reflector style headlights are a no no but I've never heard of the spotlights being illegal.
    I've searched for the last hour looking for the relevant ADR's etc but can only find info relating to retrofitting HID globes into existing headlights.
    I'd be happy for someone to show me the ADR's if they know where to get them.
    Oh and the Patrol passed, he just said he didn't see them.

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    Maybe email your state transport authority to get an answer. Here in SA it was illegal to run a single driving light such as a light bar until recently. Now the authorities have realised that new technology is entering the marketplace and a single light bar is legal. Maybe things have changed but your mechanic is not up to date?
    Also, off-road driving lights are not supposed to be used on road so a lot of the lights we all mount could be picked up if used on the road if the cops decide they are off-road lights. It's how things are interpreted.
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    Are HID spotlights illegal in NSW?

    http://www.rego.act.gov.au/__data/as...Info-Sheet.pdf

    Hardcore and we're all screwed and here's the nsw specific refs.

    In Vic you can have the bar but the low front mount thing wasn't a rule a few months ago when Looked for down here in Vic - better check again...

    For nsw

    Bullbar protrusions http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safe...otrusions.html

    And adrs http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/...es-nov2007.pdf

    Apparently in the adr no lights above lower edge of windscreen and no separate switch so that you nsw - Vic and QLD have their own regs..


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    Ive been through all that over and over. There's nothing specifically about the use of HID spotlights.

    I've emailed to RMS so we'll see what comes back

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr350 View Post
    Ive been through all that over and over. There's nothing specifically about the use of HID spotlights.

    I've emailed to RMS so we'll see what comes back
    from what i understand, you can have what ever lights you like so long as they are wired up with their own switch, which can only be activated when the high beams are already in use. i have HID's on my car and have for years, the mechanic wont even check them so long as they are wired correctly. ive had police check my car over also and they havent made any mention of them as they were satisfied that they were wired correctly.
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    Well I emailed the RMS with the same question and here's the reply after a few back and forward emails trying to explain what the lights are and how they are used.

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    There are no new requirements, I can’t send you something that doesn’t exist.

    If lights are ADR approved and fitted, that’s all we at this dept can comment on, if the Police decide to book you for causing a distraction or glare, that’s up to them.

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    So maybe because they're not ADR approved but that doesn't explain the supposed recent change in regulations that specifically mentioned HID spotlights and LED lightbars that I was told about.
    Last edited by mjr350; 11th August 2015 at 01:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr350 View Post
    Well I emailed the RMS with the same question and here's the reply after a few back and forward emails trying to explain what the lights are and how they are used.

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    There are no new requirements, I can’t send you something that doesn’t exist.

    If lights are ADR approved and fitted, that’s all we at this dept can comment on, if the Police decide to book you for causing a distraction or glare, that’s up to them.

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    www.rms.nsw.gov.au
    Every journey matters
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    So maybe because they're not ADR approved but that doesn't explain the supposed recent change in regulations that specifically mentioned HID spotlights and LED lightbars that I was told about.
    what changes are you talking about mate? i also saw some, but they were from western australia.
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    I would think ang HID driving light that was ADR approved should be fine,
    Never heard of anyone here being booked for having HID driving lights.
    The lightbar is a different matter. Did you spit on the police officer, maybe he was having a bad day
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    It wasn't a cop. It was during my rego check / pink slip. He said I would have been Ok a few months ago but not anymore since the changes.
    I cant find anything about these changes and even the rms don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr350 View Post
    It wasn't a cop. It was during my rego check / pink slip. He said I would have been Ok a few months ago but not anymore since the changes.
    I cant find anything about these changes and even the rms don't know.
    you should ask him to show you where the legislation is that says that then lol. sounds like hes taking the piss to me
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