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9th August 2015, 09:41 PM
#11
Originally Posted by
Rock Trol
Best bet is to test drive both and see which one fits and feels better. Seating, steering etc.
I think they will both do the job that's required.
I agree, thanks for your input mate.
Does anyone use one for work? would be keen to hear from you.
Last edited by Optical; 9th August 2015 at 09:43 PM.
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9th August 2015 09:41 PM
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9th August 2015, 10:06 PM
#12
How are the TD4.2TI? power? fuel consumption? am I better of paying for one of them?
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10th August 2015, 10:15 AM
#13
Travelling Podologist
Originally Posted by
Optical
How are the TD4.2TI? power? fuel consumption? am I better of paying for one of them?
Not so ‘nippy’ around town but I suspect better for towing a 2 tonne load. This based on driving a 4.2 & being left at the lights by 3.0 models. Have never driven a 3.0 myself. Hard to comment on a fuel consumption comparison because of my set up which is heavy (upgraded GVM) & less aerodynamic than many. My fuel range is around 950kms with the 2 standard tanks which works out to around 19 litres per 100kms. I would expect a ute without the canopy (higher & wider than the cab) + rooftop solar & under the factory GVM to be a fair bit better than that.
I recently towed a hired scissor lift which with it’s trailer would have been around 2 tonne. Motor hardly noticed it. If regularly towing that sort of weight as well as carrying a tray load of tools etc I reckon a leaf sprung model with a 10 leaf pack might be better than a coil set up as the weight is more evenly distributed on the chassis. Factory GVM is 3400kg. Coil is (I think) - 3150kg. On a ‘leafy’ if towing/carrying weight upgraded brakes are well worthwhile & a relatively cheap mod (replace front discs & pads). I have a tourer rather than a hardcore off roader, so the relative lack of flex (compared to coil) does not concern me. I must admit I would prefer coils, but not for plushness (I find the leafy quite acceptable in this regard) but do find the squeaks & groans from the leaves irritating at times (but that might not apply to all leaf set ups?). I drove a coil wagon recently & was quite surprised at it’s better turning circle. I’m not sure if this is a wagon/ute difference or a leaf/coil difference. Given both have front coils I’d suspect the former. Others may know with more certainty.
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10th August 2015, 03:39 PM
#14
Originally Posted by
Cuppa
Not so ‘nippy’ around town but I suspect better for towing a 2 tonne load. This based on driving a 4.2 & being left at the lights by 3.0 models. Have never driven a 3.0 myself. Hard to comment on a fuel consumption comparison because of my set up which is heavy (upgraded GVM) & less aerodynamic than many. My fuel range is around 950kms with the 2 standard tanks which works out to around 19 litres per 100kms. I would expect a ute without the canopy (higher & wider than the cab) + rooftop solar & under the factory GVM to be a fair bit better than that.
I recently towed a hired scissor lift which with it’s trailer would have been around 2 tonne. Motor hardly noticed it. If regularly towing that sort of weight as well as carrying a tray load of tools etc I reckon a leaf sprung model with a 10 leaf pack might be better than a coil set up as the weight is more evenly distributed on the chassis. Factory GVM is 3400kg. Coil is (I think) - 3150kg. On a ‘leafy’ if towing/carrying weight upgraded brakes are well worthwhile & a relatively cheap mod (replace front discs & pads). I have a tourer rather than a hardcore off roader, so the relative lack of flex (compared to coil) does not concern me. I must admit I would prefer coils, but not for plushness (I find the leafy quite acceptable in this regard) but do find the squeaks & groans from the leaves irritating at times (but that might not apply to all leaf set ups?). I drove a coil wagon recently & was quite surprised at it’s better turning circle. I’m not sure if this is a wagon/ute difference or a leaf/coil difference. Given both have front coils I’d suspect the former. Others may know with more certainty.
thanks for your feedback mate, the 4.2 would be a dream but they cost a lot more for something a lot older....which is hard to take but I guess there's a lot of demand for them.
I think I'll take all type for a test drive and see what I think.
Atleast I now know the CRD 3.0 are a pretty solid donk, probably on par with the D4D toyota I guess. so now I just need to test drive them all -.-
thanks
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10th August 2015, 03:40 PM
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Patrol God
Fuel wise a 3ltr will be around 12-15ltr/100 towing, depending , the
4.2td are slower no idea on fuel figures as some put what they would like it to be
and not work it out properly, but would think around the 15/100 as an average,
Of course both would be higher if pushed or hilly terrain
04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there
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10th August 2015, 03:51 PM
#16
Originally Posted by
threedogs
Fuel wise a 3ltr will be around 12-15ltr/100 towing, depending , the
4.2td are slower no idea on fuel figures as some put what they would like it to be
and not work it out properly, but would think around the 15/100 as an average,
Of course both would be higher if pushed or hilly terrain
how is the 3L CRD without towing? around the 10-11/100?
I won't be towing that often, and it's not for long so it doesn't both me too much.
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10th August 2015, 04:25 PM
#17
Patrol God
The CRD are a bit thirstier than the Di,
but a lot depends on your right foot,
I took all the sinkers off my shoelaces
a while ago now lol
They will return great figures with 265s size tyres.
sadly most ppl put 285s or bigger
04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there
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10th August 2015, 04:37 PM
#18
Originally Posted by
threedogs
The CRD are a bit thirstier than the Di,
but a lot depends on your right foot,
I took all the sinkers off my shoelaces
a while ago now lol
They will return great figures with 265s size tyres.
sadly most ppl put 285s or bigger
Hmm I'd be guilty of that as well lol. Thanks again
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10th August 2015, 04:42 PM
#19
Patrol God
small price to pay I think running 285s for HWY work
and 305 or 315 for off road
04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there
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10th August 2015, 10:20 PM
#20
Originally Posted by
threedogs
small price to pay I think running 285s for HWY work
and 305 or 315 for off road
Looking forward to the weekend, I'll take a few for a spin.
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