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1st February 2015, 07:13 PM
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Blowing fuse, can't work out why.
I have a problem with the Tail Light fuse blowing.
I have looked up on the wiring diagram and this fuse does the Park lights, tail lights, number plate light, dash and switch Illumination and headlight warning chime.
I have disconnected every external light and the trailer plug and it still blows the fuse, have also been checking every bit of wiring i can find for damage but cannot find any.
I have been trying to fix this for 3 weeks now and it is driving me mad and can't use the car at night while it is like it.
Anybody have any ideas how to find a short like this as it is driving me nuts and I am too stingy to pay an auto electrician.
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1st February 2015 07:13 PM
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1st February 2015, 07:16 PM
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Dribble Master
Originally Posted by
TPC
I have a problem with the Tail Light fuse blowing.
I have looked up on the wiring diagram and this fuse does the Park lights, tail lights, number plate light, dash and switch Illumination and headlight warning chime.
I have disconnected every external light and the trailer plug and it still blows the fuse, have also been checking every bit of wiring i can find for damage but cannot find any.
I have been trying to fix this for 3 weeks now and it is driving me mad and can't use the car at night while it is like it.
Anybody have any ideas how to find a short like this as it is driving me nuts and I am too stingy to pay an auto electrician.
Had the same problem, I believe the issue was found in the left hand rear loom somewhere........ I gave up looking and took it to an auto sparky. Fixed it for $100.
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1st February 2015, 07:21 PM
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Administrator
Hopefully someone can help with troubleshooting, had the exact issue and it was trailer plug wiring underneath rubbing on chassis.
Have you done anything aftermarket connecting to these that you forgot about to check too?
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1st February 2015, 07:26 PM
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My first thought was the trailer plug so disconnected that and have disconnected everything aftermarket.
It may end up being an auto elec job.
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1st February 2015, 07:41 PM
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Dribble Master
have you done the christmas tree light conversion?
take both light clusters out and check the rear passenger side loom, you make have a wire rubbed through where it enters the body there,
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1st February 2015, 07:54 PM
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Patrol God
Just a chance look in the jack compartment mayhave accidently put the jack on the loom
or it maybe rubbing on the jack
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1st February 2015, 08:57 PM
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I am he, fear me
Problems like this can be a real PIA as you have discovered.
One method is to replace the fuse with a test globe.
That way you are chasing voltage instead of blowing fuses.
While ever the globe is lit the short is present, whatever you disconnect that turns off the globe is the fault.
All you can do is split the system into sections.
If you unplug the connector M96/B102 near the RF guard that will disconnect the rear lights so if the fault is still present it will be in the switching or the front loom/lights
If the fault is in the front you next need to rule out the dash lights, dimmer etc.
Have you checked where the cable for the trailer plug is spliced into the vehicle loom?
Have you had anything in the dash apart recently, fitted a new radio or accessory?
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2nd February 2015, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by
Clunk
have you done the christmas tree light conversion?
take both light clusters out and check the rear passenger side loom, you make have a wire rubbed through where it enters the body there,
I did take out the rear light assemblies a few weeks back to check what was involved in changing over to the fully functional ones, will check behind them as i could have pinched a wire.
Originally Posted by
roofy
Just a chance look in the jack compartment mayhave accidently put the jack on the loom
or it maybe rubbing on the jack
Another possibility, will check there too.
Originally Posted by
the evil twin
Problems like this can be a real PIA as you have discovered.
One method is to replace the fuse with a test globe.
That way you are chasing voltage instead of blowing fuses.
While ever the globe is lit the short is present, whatever you disconnect that turns off the globe is the fault.
All you can do is split the system into sections.
If you unplug the connector M96/B102 near the RF guard that will disconnect the rear lights so if the fault is still present it will be in the switching or the front loom/lights
If the fault is in the front you next need to rule out the dash lights, dimmer etc.
Have you checked where the cable for the trailer plug is spliced into the vehicle loom?
Have you had anything in the dash apart recently, fitted a new radio or accessory?
Have not heard of using a globe to test but it makes sense so will try.
Will also try disconnecting the rear lights to isolate part of the car.
The trailer plug was the first thing i checked, they were easy to isolate as they plug in line with the cars original plug/sockets so could just unplug it.
I have not had the dash apart for over two years when i changed over the stereo but that still could be where the problem is as it is a larger unit and may have slowly rubbed through a wire.
Thanks all for the suggestions, more things to try now, if i knew it would only cost $100 i would just get a auto elec to fix it but had a mate take his cruiser to one for a similar problem and cost him over a thousand.
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2nd February 2015, 02:10 AM
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I am he, fear me
Think back a few weeks... did the fuse start to blow before or after you had the lights apart?
It might be a good place to check again.
Probably as much as 90% of electrical faults are caused by us humans touching things that weren't broke
The idea of the globe is to limit current.
If you use a small wattage globe like an interior light, a test light like in the screwdriver style probe or an LED in place of the fuse it means that only milliamps flow in the circuit so nothing gets fried or melts.
Very handy trick when you get bad power shorts to earth, switch mode power supply faults etc
You can power the circuit up and actually chase voltages to find the short rather than just picking things out of your butt to disconnect and blowing a gazillion fuses
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2nd February 2015, 08:50 AM
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Patrol Guru
You didn't install a stereo or anything did you.
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