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    HF radio for the gurus.

    With the HF radio units, e.g. Codan, is it possible say join VKS-737 and HF Radio club and have both frequency sets in the unit?

    OK ignoring call sign issues here.


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    (got 2 units, and SWR meter them old days)

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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    With the HF radio units, e.g. Codan, is it possible say join VKS-737 and HF Radio club and have both frequency sets in the unit?

    OK ignoring call sign issues here.


    DX Grunt.. Not offering my 27 MHz Am/SSB nuts for sale either
    (got 2 units, and SWR meter them old days)
    Not sure. I'm 'assuming' that even if you are allowed HF radio club channels and VKS-737 channels in the one unit, that you will be required to pay 2 x licence fees to use both sets channels.

    I'd suggest you see an approved, licensed radio techie and find out.

    More investigation required.

    Are you sure you don't want to offload only one ssb set? hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    With the HF radio units, e.g. Codan, is it possible say join VKS-737 and HF Radio club and have both frequency sets in the unit?

    OK ignoring call sign issues here.


    DX Grunt.. Not offering my 27 MHz Am/SSB nuts for sale either
    (got 2 units, and SWR meter them old days)
    You can have both frequency sets in the same radio, they are capable of multiple frequency plans as long as you have a auto tune antenna to go with it.
    As bitumen bunny said, you will need to join up with any network whose frequencies you are using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DX grunt View Post
    Not sure. I'm 'assuming' that even if you are allowed HF radio club channels and VKS-737 channels in the one unit, that you will be required to pay 2 x licence fees to use both sets channels.

    I'd suggest you see an approved, licensed radio techie and find out.

    More investigation required.
    I was suspecting as much.. You pay the licence fees vis the club joint and other fees anyway so not an issue. Looks like a further chase up.

    Are you sure you don't want to offload only one ssb set? hahaha
    I will keep you in mind if I think about that.. Possibly some old hand helds around the place as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPC View Post
    You can have both frequency sets in the same radio, they are capable of multiple frequency plans as long as you have a auto tune antenna to go with it.
    As bitumen bunny said, you will need to join up with any network whose frequencies you are using.
    Thanks. that was what I thought..

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    You can have as many freqs as you want, HF Oz, VKS, Flying Doc, 27 MHZ CB, Commercial radio, ABC etc etc.

    You need to tune the antenna even if you are only a member of one network.
    Auto tune is those wacking great fat bases you see on antenna mounts
    Manual tune looks just like a whip but you will see a cable and several sockets on the lower part of the whip and you stick the plug in the appropriate socket for each freq.

    It is legal to listen but illegal to transmit on freq's that you are not licensed to use

    Each organisation or network will have a set of freq's allocated for use by members.
    The freq's are unique to each network and joining the network (fees vary but roughly 100 to 200 covers it or more if you want to use a lot of Radtel).

    Once you subscribe to a Network they will issue a callsign to you and allow you to legally use those freq's
    If you are in two or more networks you will have two or more network callsigns.

    About the only thing that can becomes an issue is 'selcall' which is a code unique to your network and radio.
    If you don't use selective calling then no probs at all.

    I think I have about 90+ freq's on my Codan

    If you have a Ham licence then you can have more frequencies again
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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    About the only thing that can becomes an issue is 'selcall' which is a code unique to your network and radio.
    If you don't use selective calling then no probs at all.
    Hmm.. something to consider possibly..

    If you have a Ham licence then you can have more frequencies again
    Not looking at hamming things up at the moment, but it has crossed my mind.

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    I haven't gotten involved with ham radio mainly 'cause I am so busy with other poo I don't have the time.

    I found it difficult to make up my mind which network suited me but ended up with VKS737.
    Good choice for me as I like the regular skeds and chatting to the operators etc and have never had any coverage issues so far.

    I carry an Irridium Satphone for telephony purposes therefore I don't use Radtel to make phone calls.
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    As it is I am running a satphone in the patrol, its just HF also provided that extra factor.
    The ham thing always sound good but you need time to do the study etc and I don't have much of that.

    VKS737 dose seem the most obvious. Also noticed on their site a bit about being with other clubs.

    Still thinking on the matter. HF does not come cheap, nor does a satphone.

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    My used Codan NGT and Auto tune antenna set me back $2,000.
    My used Irridium Phone cost me $200 and I pay $10 a month for a Sim but because of the cheap Sim the calls charges are expensive.

    I found that both of them came in very handy when I had a breakdown near Docker river on my way to the Simmo Trip.

    If I had to choose one or the other I would choose Satphone if I travelled often with others or HF if I usually travelled alone.
    The reason being Satphone is point to point comms but HF is broadcast so another HF user might be quite close by.
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