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23rd June 2014, 10:36 PM
#1
Travelling Podologist
Exhaust brake for 4.2
I've had a look & there are a couple of threads here with questions about fitting an exhaust brake to a 3.0 litre Patrol, but no one in those threads had actually fitted one.
Today I had some brief correspondence with a chap from another (non Patrol) forum who has a turbo'd 4.2 with an exhaust brake fitted to his Patrol which he says, (in conjunction with a 4.6:1 diff), gives greater safety descending hill when towing a caravan, as well as giving more control in low range descents when 4wd'ing.
Given the relative lack of engine braking in the turbo'd 4.2 when compared to the n/a 1hz I had in the Troopy, the idea of fitting an exhaust brake when I eventually get around to fitting a new exhaust (3") seems like an attractive idea.
The chap's exhaust brake was from SGV Exhaust Brakes in NSW & he reckoned it cost about $1300 to buy (not sure how long ago) plus fitting costs. In my book I would rather spend that sort of money to give me greater 'sure footedness' when rolling 4 tonnes down loose hills, than I would spending it on releasing more horses.
So ...... Has anyone else yet fitted an exhaust brake to a Patrol, and in particular a 4.2 (although other motors would be of interest too) & wants to share details?
I have an exhaust brake on our ED33 (3.3 litre 4cyl diesel) engined bus, & love it when in the hills.
Last edited by Cuppa; 23rd June 2014 at 11:34 PM.
2006 4.2TDi ex-Telstra Remote area Camper. 425w roof mounted solar, 360Ah Aux batts, BCDC1240, Onboard hot & cold pressurised & filtered water, (25 litre hot water calorifier), ARB fridge, ARB freezer, Built in kitchen, heaps of easy access storage, 240v, 3” Genie exhaust + dynotune, 2” lift, 3900kg GVM upgrade, second glovebox, ROH Blaktrak steel wheels, Bridgestone D697's (now Toyo RT's), Redarc gauges/pillarpod, Hema HX-1, Icom 450 CB, dual rear view cameras, Onboard 30amp Victron mains charger, second glovebox, dual seat conversion, TPMS, Boss PX7 onboard air with 9 litre tank, 350w inverter, Steel bullbar, Harrop Eaton diff lock (front), Warn winch, Snorkel, Dual spares , 160 litre water tank, 180 litre fuel in two tanks (approx 1200km range) 2010 Tvan Tanami. (incl another 70 litre water tank) with matching wheels/tyres (& 3rd spare)
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23rd June 2014 10:36 PM
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23rd June 2014, 10:46 PM
#2
Moderator
No but it would be sweet!! I have fitted Braided Brake lines to the GQ which made a difference but upgrading the the GU brakes made the most difference for sure!!
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Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
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23rd June 2014, 11:16 PM
#3
Legendary
Take a listen here mate, might not be a good idea
http://youtu.be/52byisiatRg
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23rd June 2014, 11:21 PM
#4
Travelling Podologist
There is also a mob in Geelong who sell aftermarket exhaust brakes for Toyotas & I believe they have been used on Patrols too. These are a butterfly type, whereas the SGV are a guillotine type. (Which they claim to be be a more effective design). SGV make their own & I was told they were helpful & good folk to deal with. Not sure if the Geelong folk are just selling a product they import, or if they make their own gear.
http://gearingdynamics.com.au/Exhaus...iesel-vehicles
2006 4.2TDi ex-Telstra Remote area Camper. 425w roof mounted solar, 360Ah Aux batts, BCDC1240, Onboard hot & cold pressurised & filtered water, (25 litre hot water calorifier), ARB fridge, ARB freezer, Built in kitchen, heaps of easy access storage, 240v, 3” Genie exhaust + dynotune, 2” lift, 3900kg GVM upgrade, second glovebox, ROH Blaktrak steel wheels, Bridgestone D697's (now Toyo RT's), Redarc gauges/pillarpod, Hema HX-1, Icom 450 CB, dual rear view cameras, Onboard 30amp Victron mains charger, second glovebox, dual seat conversion, TPMS, Boss PX7 onboard air with 9 litre tank, 350w inverter, Steel bullbar, Harrop Eaton diff lock (front), Warn winch, Snorkel, Dual spares , 160 litre water tank, 180 litre fuel in two tanks (approx 1200km range) 2010 Tvan Tanami. (incl another 70 litre water tank) with matching wheels/tyres (& 3rd spare)
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23rd June 2014, 11:25 PM
#5
Patrol Guru
An exhaust brake was one of my first thoughts when I knew i was getting a TD42.
In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Theodore Roosevelt
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23rd June 2014, 11:32 PM
#6
Travelling Podologist
Originally Posted by
NP99
Love it cock. Had heard it before, but good to hear it again. Last time I heard it was shortly before I took the bus out. First 'Avoid using engine brakes' sign ......... I just had too! .
Different types of engine brake too though, I think there are noisier types than exhaust brakes ....... cock.
2006 4.2TDi ex-Telstra Remote area Camper. 425w roof mounted solar, 360Ah Aux batts, BCDC1240, Onboard hot & cold pressurised & filtered water, (25 litre hot water calorifier), ARB fridge, ARB freezer, Built in kitchen, heaps of easy access storage, 240v, 3” Genie exhaust + dynotune, 2” lift, 3900kg GVM upgrade, second glovebox, ROH Blaktrak steel wheels, Bridgestone D697's (now Toyo RT's), Redarc gauges/pillarpod, Hema HX-1, Icom 450 CB, dual rear view cameras, Onboard 30amp Victron mains charger, second glovebox, dual seat conversion, TPMS, Boss PX7 onboard air with 9 litre tank, 350w inverter, Steel bullbar, Harrop Eaton diff lock (front), Warn winch, Snorkel, Dual spares , 160 litre water tank, 180 litre fuel in two tanks (approx 1200km range) 2010 Tvan Tanami. (incl another 70 litre water tank) with matching wheels/tyres (& 3rd spare)
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24th June 2014, 05:30 PM
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a member of the menagerie
Hey Cuppa,
What about a truck wreckers, maybe you could source one from a Canter or some other small truck, It might be a heck of a lot cheaper than going brand new.
Mark
Proud former owner of a 1997 White GQ TD42 Patrol Cab Chassis with an after market turbo, now with over half a million k's and still going strong, that's had a heart transplant and now not owned by me
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24th June 2014, 05:32 PM
#8
Patrol God
Price wise the cost is about $2500 plus forgot the mob who used to do it ,
but not worth it from all the research I did on it .plus talking to shop owner
I was only going to use it off road, get every line redone in Braid even the short ones and it will make a difference
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24th June 2014, 07:07 PM
#9
Legendary
Originally Posted by
Cuppa
Love it cock. Had heard it before, but good to hear it again. Last time I heard it was shortly before I took the bus out. First 'Avoid using engine brakes' sign ......... I just had too!
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Different types of engine brake too though, I think there are noisier types than exhaust brakes ....... cock.
It's one of those things you never get tired of listening to
1999 GU 4500 dual fuel
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24th June 2014, 07:42 PM
#10
Expert
G'day Cuppa,
had a long talk years ago with Tony who fits the SGV units in Chipping Norton in Sinney when I found how totally R/S compression braking with a turbo is.
The old standard 4.2 was excellent with the van on, the new 3.0crd with turbo is crap.
Didn't go with it but I'd suggest a talk with him. Top bloke.
Dunno the number but enter SGV exhaust brakes on the web and you're there,
regards
Col
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