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7th July 2016, 08:52 AM
#551
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250 won't be needed if he's only shooting it to 100m. Plus way to load. Still don't think you need a 223 straight away mate. For a good 223 package you'll be up around 1500ish more for the tikka. Almost any 22 will shoot accurate though. Perfect gun to get you into the sport.
If you jump straight into a 223 in my opinion you miss out on learning more about ballistics as you don't have to deal with them as much. Put it in perspective. At the range I can hit the target at 500yrds maybe 80% of the time with 223. With the 22 and knowing what I have learned I can almost do the same even though the bullet drop is so much I can't see the target in the scope haha. But I can still but it.... I think jumping to a 223 is just not the right way to get into it properly. If your planning on deer hunting particularly at distance then your going to regret not learning about bullet drop or windage etc. EVERYONE I know who shoots regularly had a 22 and is usually always with you when shooting to.
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7th July 2016, 09:28 AM
#552
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I reckon also if your walking up on rabbits you will get way way closer than 100m mate, way closer! 100m is miles away from a bunny, you should be able to whistle up your foxes to pretty close too if your on foot, no vehicle noise will be an advantage.
Don't get me wrong mate, my first gun was a 223 & 3006 purchased together, the 3006 has done very little but it's not really a gun you take out to shoot 20 rounds out of. It's a big gun. The 223 will easily deal with Roos and foxes but is a bit extreme for a bunny gun, as noted the cost of ammo of a 223 over a 22 is night and day! If your out on bunnies you could use 50 or 150 rounds in a night. That will cost you $20 or $150! The 22 will easily do it. I would just never grab the 223 for bunnies.
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7th July 2016, 10:10 AM
#553
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7th July 2016, 10:17 AM
#554
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Originally Posted by
MudRunnerTD
I reckon also if your walking up on rabbits you will get way way closer than 100m mate, way closer! 100m is miles away from a bunny, you should be able to whistle up your foxes to pretty close too if your on foot, no vehicle noise will be an advantage.
Don't get me wrong mate, my first gun was a 223 & 3006 purchased together, the 3006 has done very little but it's not really a gun you take out to shoot 20 rounds out of. It's a big gun. The 223 will easily deal with Roos and foxes but is a bit extreme for a bunny gun, as noted the cost of ammo of a 223 over a 22 is night and day! If your out on bunnies you could use 50 or 150 rounds in a night. That will cost you $20 or $150! The 22 will easily do it. I would just never grab the 223 for bunnies.
I thought shooting roos was illegal? Or is it the type of thing that's technically illegal but everyone does anyway?
If that's the case then I will without a doubt get a .223 because there are literally thousands of roos on my mates farm, and a few pigs too but we're yet to actually see them. His property backs onto a pine plantation.
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7th July 2016, 01:33 PM
#555
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Originally Posted by
Winnie
I thought shooting roos was illegal? Or is it the type of thing that's technically illegal but everyone does anyway?
If that's the case then I will without a doubt get a .223 because there are literally thousands of roos on my mates farm, and a few pigs too but we're yet to actually see them. His property backs onto a pine plantation.
Property holders can obtain permits to "cull" set numbers..
But yes illegal to the average shooter / hunter..
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7th July 2016, 03:52 PM
#556
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7th July 2016, 05:55 PM
#557
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Originally Posted by
Winnie
I don't want a .22
I might get one down the track but want the .223 for now.
The reason I supported Mattys assertion is because I can't count the amount of people I've seen who start off with a larger calibre and pick up a bunch of really bad shooting habits straight off the bat.
As with anything else, it's harder to change bad habits than learn good ones to begin with.
If you've shot quite a bit before then go nuts, but if you are a first time shooter I believe you really should start with a 22 and learn the right way.
Just my 2c.
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7th July 2016, 07:02 PM
#558
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Originally Posted by
Irish
The reason I supported Mattys assertion is because I can't count the amount of people I've seen who start off with a larger calibre and pick up a bunch of really bad shooting habits straight off the bat.
As with anything else, it's harder to change bad habits than learn good ones to begin with.
If you've shot quite a bit before then go nuts, but if you are a first time shooter I believe you really should start with a 22 and learn the right way.
Just my 2c.
It's such a good wide use size too..
Was my pick from dad's collection unless we ment business..
Then it was the double barrel under over shot gun..
Didn't use the 223 to much.. just didn't need it..
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7th July 2016, 07:15 PM
#559
The 747
I have probably put 200 odd rounds through a 22 before and a few threw some bigger rifles too, mainly target shooting. I've shot even more through a 12g
So I'm not brand new to shooting but haven't had a lot of experience.
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7th July 2016, 07:28 PM
#560
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If you havent had a lot of experience as you say yourself, then definitely go a 22. I put 200rds through my 22 the first day I brought it to the range.
I've also used the 22 a sh1te load more than I've used any of my other rifles or shotgun, or ever will for that matter. As westy said, it is an extremely versatile calibre.
A lot of people eschew them in favour of something bigger because people dont think of the 22 as a big boy gun, but they really are the best bang for buck(no pun intended) calibre you can get. Think of em like a leatherman, useful for a multitude of tasks.
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