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    Hand Throttle (Cable Throttle) in Patrol - NOT a Cruise Control

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    have seen a couple of posts here and there, and got I've gotten into debate before regarding this topic. Not wishing to cause argument, but I'd like to hear others thoughts on this.

    The hand throttle (not sure of the proper name for it - it's the knob you can pull out, down to the right of the steering wheel that is attached to the accelerator cable) as I understand it, and with every bit of logic I can muster regarding reasons why you shouldn't use this way, isn't meant to be locked in whilst driving and be used as a Cruise Control. It is no doubt dangerous ... hit the brakes with that locked on and your stopping distance has just increased substantially, as 99.99999999% of people haven't got the cat like reflexes to switch it off right at the moment a small kid, or an animal, or another car, etc scoots out in front of them ... it just keeps the power up to the wheels whilst you are trying to stop them with the brakes ...

    Not sure if there is reference to it in the manual (I will look though) but I recall another member on another forum stating the manual says specifically NOT to use this whilst any 'driving gear' is engaged. I have rarely (if ever) used it, but could imagine people use it to idle the car up when it is cold, and in certain 4WD circumstances where you want to keep the idle up a little (like in water holes etc so you don't snuff the engine if you happen to get stuck) - other than that, I would struggle to know why it's even there (my rig starts perfectly without it even when cold - the sensors, ECU, etc do the work idling it up, and it drops back to 650rpm once it starts warming up)

    Not a topic that my opinion will be swayed on I'm afraid, but obviously welcome others thoughts and opinions on it's use in this fashion.

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    Never used mine but from what I understand you only use it when going up steep rocky hills to keep the revs constant instead of using the accelerator which your foot will bounce up and down on causing the revs to change............but hell other than that I've got no idea,
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    refer 2 this forum thread

    patrol4x4.com/forum/nissan-patrol-gq-y60-ford-maverick-11/adjusting-hand-throttle-55128/

    I would agree with Wayne on this... Rock climbs / Hill climbs where u want 2 keep the revs constant, Never would use it on the road

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    Read this on that other 4x4 something forum as well, which makes the only sense to why it is there

    The hand throttle was designed for when running a PTO Winch (good with an electric as well), to keep the revs up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddrhind View Post
    refer 2 this forum thread

    I would agree with Wayne on this... Rock climbs / Hill climbs where u want 2 keep the revs constant, Never would use it on the road
    That was me as you can tell, many moons ago on the same topic!! Another bloke on the forum picked the sh!t out of me for calling it a choke, and because I'm a mouth, I argued the point and then yet another bloke sent me the details via PM regarding the manual, and I ended up posting it as he didn't want to cause a stir - haven't read it myself as such, but that particular thread was the beginning of the end for my involvement in that site ...

    The difference in response on many of the posts for the same topic highlights the differences between this one and it (painting with a broad brush I know) - the discussion here is open and flowing, as opposed to one upmanship and a place to demonstrate your greater understanding of all things Patrol than anybody else ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigrig View Post
    The difference in response on many of the posts for the same topic highlights the differences between this one and it
    hence why i have never joined it, still have a read if i am searching on somethin in particular and it pops up in the search, but that's about it, will never join it thats 4 sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddrhind View Post
    hence why i have never joined it, still have a read if i am searching on somethin in particular and it pops up in the search, but that's about it, will never join it thats 4 sure
    Yep - I understand there is certain forums for certain people, and no doubt there is good info on there, but that is a perfect example of how something simple turns to a sh!t fight real quick - there is plenty more threads on there that highlight the same thing let me tell you!!

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    Scotty, I have no idea about Patroly stuff I just pass on what I have learn't as with the rest of us.
    As you and others have realised there is no room for "one upmanship" on this forum mate, that what makes it the way it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddrhind View Post
    Read this on that other 4x4 something forum as well, which makes the only sense to why it is there

    The hand throttle was designed for when running a PTO Winch (good with an electric as well), to keep the revs up.
    Thats correct (the PTO bit). Without giving away my age too much it is a hang over from the good old days when a PTO was common and used for lots of various devices like winches, hyd pumps etc etc. Exactly the same as the Farm Tractor.

    Many a Farmer has been killed or injured by running over himself on the Farm by setting the hand throttle and walking alongside throwing feed off a trailer or tray

    The other feature that is now disappering which was also necessary for a PTO Operation was the Neutral between 4H and 4L because you needed the gears to drive the PTO so you had to select N on the transfer case, engage the PTO and then used the gears/throttle to set the RPM of the PTO shaft.

    Only temporary Australians would even contemplate the use of Hand throttles as CC
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    Yep gotta agree, it is not cruise control, i fitted cruise control as cruise control and it works as it should, I even fitted a switch for the clutch
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