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    HELP - fitting new brake pads - need advice

    I'm fitting new EBC greenstuff brake pads. Their fitting instructions are woeful, & with no diagrams. Obviously they assume knowledge I don't have.

    Issues is anti squeal shims. OE ones are metal.

    The EBC pads are supplied with a sticky backed rubbery sort of shim.

    Do I stick it to the back of the pad or to the shim cover? (Replacing the metal shim?)


    Would really appreciate quick replies!

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    I would say back of the pad if it is the same shape there cuppa that's where the antisqeal shims are supposed to be from memory

    Would you mind posting a pic of the pad and the shim side by side

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    Here's a pic.
    From left to right

    New pad, rubber shim (with 3M peel off sticky back), original shim, shim cover.

    My gut feeling is that the rubber shim should be stuck to the shim cover, with the black face you can see facing the pad. No anti squeal grease is supplied, only grease for the siding pins. I also am assuming that the original shim is not refitted.

    Don't want to fit it up wrong.

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    we used to just squeeze a bit of never seize to stop squeeling which is chattering really
    I'd put rubber pad on rear of new pad,
    they don't know what pads you are replacing
    04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there

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    I'm concerned that the back of the pad may get hotter than the shim cover & more likely to make the adhesive 'let go'???

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    Found the answer ....... You were both correct - stick on to the back of the pad.

    http://www.brakes4u.co.uk/itemdetail.asp?catid=28154

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    Sorry I took so long cuppa I am looking after my daughter today and when we start playing time flies by. Glad you found the answer though

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    All back together now want your opinion when they are bed in,
    It may be more noticeable with your Patrol being Heavier.
    It has to be better than before though
    04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there

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    Quote Originally Posted by threedogs View Post
    All back together now
    Hmmmm, not quite!
    I think I could now declare myself an expert at dismantling & rebuilding manual locking hubs having done so another 4 times today. After doing them each once I stood back to admire my handiwork, only to realise that I had stuffed up. I knew the new rotors were a directional fit, but despite this had somehow managed to fit them the wrong way round, with the passenger side rotor on the driver side & vice versa. Bugger! All done now, just one set of pads left to swap.

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    Easy mistake to make when you are excited about the benefits of new bits
    2003 gu3 td42tdi sold 😞 bloody gvm towing crap. Bt50 3500kg gvm.

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