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5th October 2013, 06:33 PM
#1
Expert
Please look after your gear!!!!!
Hi guys, now I just got back from a trail bike ride and saw a cruiser doing a recovery ( patrol would not need to! Lol). I stopped and watched and geez some very poor practice was taking place! I'm no expert mechanic nor sparky but when it comes to rigging loads and weight limits this is my field.
They had a brand new 8t endless sling (the sort cranes use)wrapped around a tree on a choke they winched the heap of land cruiser out no prob. They then dragged that sling of 6m long through the mud and back into the back of the LC. I went over and said hello and they said they got a 8t sling as they keep breaking the 5t sling they norm use.
What they do wrong here?
We'll as that sling was around the tree unprotected the bark has put little cuts in the outer layer ( no prob strength is on the inside) they then dragged it in the mud prob filling it up with grit. Now over time the grit inside grinds away at the inner and stuffs it. As they had it choked around the tree there sling was only good for 75% of 8t so continue doing this and yes they will replace that 8t sling just as often as there 5t sling.
Please understand your sling configuration and the consequences Of the rating of it.
Protect it at all times from rain dirt and sharp edges and out of uv light when not in use.
Your life may depend on it sometime
Treat it right and it will last a lifetime!!!
Just food for thought although patrol owners have more brains!!
Any other load related questions you have or rigging questions ask away
Take it easy
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5th October 2013 06:33 PM
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5th October 2013, 06:55 PM
#2
Expert
Also if they wrapped the sling around joining both ends to a shackle it would increase the sling swl. A 8t synthetic sling is way to bulky and a waste of time in my book for a average 4x4 considering it breaks at 40t diff between swl and wwl!
Sorry for boring you on the simple stuff!!
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5th October 2013, 07:20 PM
#3
BIG & BALD
Thanks appreciate your knowledge.
2011 GU8 ST 3.0 CRD, ARB Bullbar with IPF spotties, scrub bars and side steps, Snorkel, Dual Battery system, Waeco fridge, Turbo Timer, ARB Roof Rack with 5 IPF spotties across the front, Custom full Leather Bucket seats, DPchip, 3" Taipan exhaust, ARE Intercooler & scoop, Autron EGT/Boost and dual volt gauges, ARB front locker.
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5th October 2013, 10:15 PM
#4
Moderator
Thanks for your input First Patrol, I appreciate your expertise and gather you are a Rigger or Dogman? Reading your description I assume the Sling you talk about was a Tree Trunk Protector. 3 m to 5m long and rated to 8000kgs or more. You are right it would certainly be used eye to eye with a shackle but I have a 12t Tree Truck Protector that I use and love it.
The concept is less about the breaking strain which you accurately advise is Sh1t loads but ore about the width of the strap to Protect the tree from Ring Bark Damage. I assume they were Winching from the sling as an anchor point?
Hope I read you right?
Your are very right though mate PLEASE LOOK AFTER YOUR GEAR!!!
that sling would go through the washing machine after that day if I owned it.
Last edited by MudRunnerTD; 5th October 2013 at 10:22 PM.
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Originally Posted by
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Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.
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5th October 2013, 10:58 PM
#5
Expert
Mudrunner, An endless sling is one that is a complete loop. Like a big circle.
Not open like a tree trunk protector with eyelets on either side.
Last edited by Shaun 4x4; 5th October 2013 at 11:01 PM.
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5th October 2013, 11:04 PM
#6
Moderator
Originally Posted by
Shaun 4x4
Mudrunner, An endless sling is one that is a complete loop. Like a big circle.
Not open like a tree trunk protector with eyelets on either side.
Thanks Shaun, I missed that.
Its a Nissan! =====> Its a Keeper!! ....... Got a TD42 in it BONUS!!
....... I'm a lucky bugger! I've got 2 of em!
Check out my Toy -->
MudRunnerTD's GQ From the Ground Up
Originally Posted by
Rogue Dung Beetle
Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.
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5th October 2013, 11:06 PM
#7
Expert
Glad I could help for a change
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6th October 2013, 07:14 AM
#8
Expert
Lol shit I gave the tree no concern here. You are right a wide flat sling would be better on Mother Nature
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6th October 2013, 01:11 PM
#9
Patrol God
Had to stop the greenies from saying all 4x4ers were tree KILLERS lol
Its all in the tread lightly campaign , minimum impact on the environment.
But by all means enjoy
04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there
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