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    Must Have Basic 4x4 Recovery Kit

    Everyone who ventures off road should have a Basic Kit in their vehicle consisting of: snatch strap, rated shackles, map, uhf radio & first aid kit.


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    Hi mate was just wondering what the best snatch strap would be for a budget?

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    The correct rated one, safety has no budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finly Owner View Post
    The correct rated one, safety has no budget.
    Exactly right Tim. Saving $20 on a snatch strap will be insignificant if it fails and someone gets injured or killed. Recovering a stuck vehicle is dangerous, ALL recovery gear gear must be good quality with the correct ratings to do the job.

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    This might not be what you had in mind when starting the thread, but it might be a help.

    Seems that “spot the dummy” is popular. But what is a safe standard recovery “system” ?

    I’ll jump in the deep end and put up what I think is a (general) minimum and others can pull it apart, add to it, etc. so the result might be a safe and practical (not perfect) system –

    1. Two 4.5T rated recovery points.
    2. Each end of a 9T rated bridle chain or strap is fastened to a recovery point with a 4.5T rated shackle.
    3. One end of a 9T rated strap (say 10 metres long) is fastened to the bridle strap or chain with a 9T rated shackle.
    4. The other end of the 9T rated strap is fastened to a rated 9T synthetic winch cable with a 9T rated shackle.
    5. The winch cable passes through a 9T rated snatch block that is fastened to both ends of 9T rated tree protector with a 9T rated shackle.
    6. A “winch blanket” hangs on the winch cable and another “winch blanket” hangs on the 9T rated strap.

    That system would not take a lot of time to set up and would offer safe working for a majority of recoveries.
    Why 9T ratings? Covers difficult and easy recoveries – huge generalisation I know, but had to start somewhere. If 9T is too high – a possibility is to work to 4.5T total load for the system.
    The 9T potential load is split between the winch (say 4.5T) and the recovery points (say 2.25T each) – all you need then is a tree or another vehicle (harnessed to a tree) to withstand the 9T that may be applied to the tree protector.

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    Thanks everybody for the info. I was going to ask the same question about this stuff. I've got it all, but don't know if its right.
    I definately know my recovery points are up to speed, but need to go through the rest.

    I'm going on a beach holiday in about 5 weeks, so it's very appropriate. Thanks again.

    Take care out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkn View Post
    This might not be what you had in mind when starting the thread, but it might be a help.

    Seems that “spot the dummy” is popular. But what is a safe standard recovery “system” ?

    I’ll jump in the deep end and put up what I think is a (general) minimum and others can pull it apart, add to it, etc. so the result might be a safe and practical (not perfect) system –

    1. Two 4.5T rated recovery points.
    2. Each end of a 9T rated bridle chain or strap is fastened to a recovery point with a 4.5T rated shackle.
    3. One end of a 9T rated strap (say 10 metres long) is fastened to the bridle strap or chain with a 9T rated shackle.
    4. The other end of the 9T rated strap is fastened to a rated 9T synthetic winch cable with a 9T rated shackle.
    5. The winch cable passes through a 9T rated snatch block that is fastened to both ends of 9T rated tree protector with a 9T rated shackle.
    6. A “winch blanket” hangs on the winch cable and another “winch blanket” hangs on the 9T rated strap.

    That system would not take a lot of time to set up and would offer safe working for a majority of recoveries.
    Why 9T ratings? Covers difficult and easy recoveries – huge generalisation I know, but had to start somewhere. If 9T is too high – a possibility is to work to 4.5T total load for the system.
    The 9T potential load is split between the winch (say 4.5T) and the recovery points (say 2.25T each) – all you need then is a tree or another vehicle (harnessed to a tree) to withstand the 9T that may be applied to the tree protector.
    9 Tonnes... Holy Cow, what are you planning on recovering... road trains.

    The size of a 9 tonne rated shackle alone makes them almost prohibitive to carry in a Patrol. 4.2's are plenty big enough and a 9 ton snatch block allows doubling the pull

    Given that most winches are 8 to 11 thousand pound (4 to 5 ton ballpark), Patrol size vehicle snatch straps are technically supposed to be no more than 8,000 Kg breaking load and Bridles, Extension straps are up to 4,500 Kg... 9 Ton equipment all through is waaay too much IMHO.

    Rigged correctly for recovery you can easily get in excess of 9 tonnes pull with Patrol size gear using blocks, shackles, straps and a winch of 'standard' size such as a Warn XD900 or Tiger 12,000
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    Found this website. Don't know the company and have never dealt with them before.

    There's a lot of good info and food for thought.

    http://www.nobles.com.au/media/28543...e_recovery.pdf

    http://www.nobles.com.au/
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    Quote Originally Posted by DX grunt View Post
    Found this website. Don't know the company and have never dealt with them before.

    There's a lot of good info and food for thought.

    http://www.nobles.com.au/media/28543...e_recovery.pdf

    http://www.nobles.com.au/
    Yeah, good mob, never had any issues with them... I think BHP lifting bought 'em out a while back but either way still good to deal with.
    Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.

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    In reply to AB...

    I consider the following as basic recovery gear.

    1 Snatch strap (8,000 KG )
    1 Bridle (4,500 KG)
    2 Bow Shackles (rated min 3.7 but 4.2 preferred)
    1 Drag Chain
    1 pr Gloves (drag chains can pinch like a bitch)

    ...if your vehicle has a winch add

    1 standard tree trunk protector (12,000 KG)
    1 standard winch extension strap (4,500Kg) or rope (equiv or better than winch pull rating so around 4,500Kg min)
    1 snatch block (9,000 KG)
    2 more shackles for rigging the block etc

    IF I am solo vehicle I personally carry more than that in the form of another extension, 2 Blocks instead of 1 and extra shackles but IMHO the above is what qualifies as a "basic" kit. The extra's are so I can use a redirection as well as a pull because you don't have the luxury of positioning another vehicle in just the right spot and Murphy (the mongrel) will surely have killed off the only suitable tree for a straight pull.
    Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.

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