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    Got to start somewhere, so Mig would be what you're after. Easy to use,
    Do your TAFE course, But there is a bit more than just welding 2 bits together.
    Tri-angles are great as you cant bend them, but all this will come will experience.
    Gets your mates to critic your work, you'll soon be doing clean presentable work.
    Avoid any work that may need certification, leave that to the experts, ATS.
    Look forward to seeing some work......
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    I recon screw the mig get yourself a little caddy stick welder and get some 16TC electrodes and spend a good 50 hours practicing on the material you want to use once you figure out how to strike a 16TC its easier from there
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    Once that stick welder is mastered, you can achieve anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by NP99 View Post
    Once that stick welder is mastered, you can achieve anything
    Unless you don't have the right certs, then you better leave it to the people who do!

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    I'm not saying don't weld Winnie.
    By all means try it, save some cash..
    But don't start with something that has the potential to differ life from death..
    Heaps of other things to build. Camping pole, light poles, camping gear, boot racks etc etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy's Accessories View Post
    I'm not saying don't weld Winnie.
    By all means try it, save some cash..
    But don't start with something that has the potential to differ life from death..
    Heaps of other things to build. Camping pole, light poles, camping gear, boot racks etc etc..

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    Kind of hijacking this thread but anyway......
    How would you suggest a poor weld on a set of sliders or rear barfor example would be life threatening?

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    I prefer stick over MIG but that's me I like the sense of achievement from stick.
    Anyone can MIG , but expensive hiring bottles etc, so factor that in on any job.
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    Without entering the debate about safety, or best type of welder for specific tasks, I can relate my experience of purchasing a welder recently, & the difference between it & past dismal electric welding attempts.

    I bought a 110amp inverter stick welder quite cheaply off eBay. It is the highest amperage you can run off a domestic 10 amp 240v supply. I also bought a cheap (under $50) self darkening welding mask. The combo of these two things has made an enormous difference. I make no claim to being a competent welder, & would not trust my ability if anything 'critical' needed welding, but for general trailer repairs, fabricating special tools etc I am now able to manage. I still get welds that aren't always pretty & neat, (although some are) but I am generally able to make things that hold together. Past stick welding attempts resulted in lots of 'bird sh*t' & welds which often broke when stressed.

    Two things have made a huge difference. The inverter welder is simply easier to use, especially establishing & maintaining the arc, compared to an older non inverter welder I've got. (It is also a fraction of the size, so much easier to cart around). The other thing is the self darkening helmet. This alone has made welding at least 500% easier. Placing the rod in the right place is now simple, because I can see what I'm doing through the lens before I strike the arc.
    In the past I had Oxy acetylene, but rental on the bottles for something not used often saw me part with it. I'm not sure if you are supposed to do this with arc, but I've even been able to fill holes using a combination of the welding rod, & steel rod that I used to use with the Oxy.

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    EDIT. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WeldSmart...30636967510%26
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    Yeah gotta love the self darkening helmets, save heaps of time.IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by taslucas View Post
    Kind of hijacking this thread but anyway......
    How would you suggest a poor weld on a set of sliders or rear barfor example would be life threatening?

    so far so good on motorculture
    They fall off after a couple of hits at 100k/h down the road with oncoming traffic.
    T-bone a car and have the scrub bar come adrift and spear threw the others door..

    But to help the fella out and regather the thread..

    It depends on what you want to weld and your budget..
    Mig is by far the easiest to use.. but with bottle hire at around $300 a year it can be expensive.

    Stick or MMAW (manual metal arc welder) is the cheapest but requires a lot more skill to use as your introduction slag into the mix.

    But if you stick with brand name, cig and boc for example you can get a good welder for reasonable price.. with welders it is very much you get what you pay for..

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