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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    what is actually pretty scary in that last pic is that Most of that Damage is from the Strap..... Not the shackle! Brutal! Imagine that hitting you!
    Do you mean the strap did the wider damage on the door?

    Brutal impact and bloody lucky!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AB View Post
    Do you mean the strap did the wider damage on the door?

    Brutal impact and bloody lucky!


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    Yes mate. You can see where the shackle hit as an impact puncture but the massive spread of damage to both doors is all Strap. That is a Tough bit of door too!!!
    Its a Nissan! =====> Its a Keeper!! ....... Got a TD42 in it BONUS!! ....... I'm a lucky bugger! I've got 2 of em!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.

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    This finally arrive from the US whilst on shift. very nicely finished, now just have to practice using it to get the benefit.xlock.JPG

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    This chap seems to have some helpful videos found I’m learning on too folks:

    https://youtu.be/s1h9whPOPn0




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    Good clear explanations and easily understood. Its really simple trig stuff when it comes down to it, 'triangulated ' forces or vectors, easily missed in the field under duress and when the operation appears to be nothing like the theory. Good find @MB

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    Here’s another interesting test from Robert Pepper on Snatch Blocks versus Rings:

    https://youtu.be/rdlRRAbzCzA

    Appears at the 20:00 mark that we should account for an approximate 5% efficiency loss for a Snatch Block & 10% efficiency loss for the Rings:



    He’s going to do some more tests soon to see further affects of mud etc....



    Efficiency variance seems to not be much of an issue to worry about in his opinion:








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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodge View Post
    That's Mr Pepper. Very informative .

    I only watched his bridle video few days ago ...

    https://youtu.be/V13ARMYoAos
    This is a Great Video about the Maths of using a Bridle to centralise the load across the chassis.

    Fundamentally we need to consider the side load when winching from an angle. This video explains it quite well.

    Using a single length bridle across the points rather that 2 3m straps to the hook. 1 6m strap with the hook around the middle that can slide.

    The further away from the vehicle the centre of the bridle is the Les the angle and the less the side load is. A 6m bridle, so 3m each return, seems the best option.

    Do yourself a favour and Watch the Video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.

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    Bought em, couldn’t trust my own monkey fist knots some years ago I think, lightweight and stored conveniently out of the way



    Time wise, still have never utilised them?

    Every Landcrab we pass by has sharp recovery points requiring old school Bows ?



    In all honesty, is it a nice to have connection but in reality Peoples trucks out there are non compatible?
    They’re not in the way, will keep though for a rainy day


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    @MB nice one mate. Yeah I have quite a few soft shackles now. Still like the ones I made as the strongest I have as they are the only ones made from 12mm rope. Over the gear stick for the storage win for sure.

    I have a snatch ring which I have used a few times now and recently bought another through a big sale discount, when it turned up it is made for 12mm rope and is about 150mm across so a really good diameter too. Stoked.

    I also grabbed an 18mm Kentic Rope which is snazzy. Not a big fan of snatching and in the GQ will always Winch cause 24Vforlife. But it could see some use in Cape Jaffa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.

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    Recovery - The Fundamentals

    I’m confused Again Dazman
    As per above, where do I connect a soft bought shackle to the likes of any modern car with Aftermarket sharp as razors tow/recovery points?

    EDIT: Happy to RIP a Melbourne City sexy ‘D’ shackled colour coded bumper clean OFF its tinfoil chassis

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    Last edited by MB; 3rd July 2022 at 09:56 PM.

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