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25th February 2015, 08:57 AM
#31
Patrol God
It may be AS standard to use a rated shackle for you trailer/camper but just talking to the laser cutter.
He thought it was LAW and the 2 shops he went to to buy some shackles both asked if he'd been pinged.?
He said no but curious he rang the RACV and they never heard about it,as I said earlier I like my gear so only used rated shackles.
The LC believes it was started on Face ache and spread [chinese whispers].
can anybody show that its LAW not AS to use rated shackles, mad if you dont IMO..
Then the question of chain used ,who welded it, etc, etc,Again never knew chain couldn't welded.
would need to see it in LAW not AS.
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25th February 2015 08:57 AM
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25th February 2015, 09:22 AM
#32
The 747
Nice thread dig 3dogs.
So are you saying that I shouldn't use hiking carabinas?
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25th February 2015, 09:47 AM
#33
Patrol God
I just want to know whats legal by LAW, all this thread says is Aust standard.
As I said it came up at the Laser Cutters this morning
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25th February 2015, 10:05 AM
#34
The 747
Yeah I'm not sure it is law... you're right this little thing did start on facebook so odds are it's not right haha
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25th February 2015, 10:06 AM
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Dribble Master
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25th February 2015, 10:13 AM
#36
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25th February 2015, 10:41 AM
#37
Patrol God
My brother is a cop and chased up the latest ebay page about qld drives coping the paper work for not using rated shackles.
To the best of his ability to dig he found (and his super confirmed) that rated shackles are not a required item by law.
However.
If pulled over the copper is well within his rights to defect you if he believes the items are not up to the task. As with any bit of the car.
So. As far as we have dug it's not a legal requirement but you'd be silly not to.
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25th February 2015, 11:28 AM
#38
Patrol God
Thanks Kallen totally agree why risk your pride and joy with junk hardware or even Marine which would only be Stainless.
BUY properly rated shackles that suit the weight you are towing. or if you only have a bolt change it for a graded bolt, and zinc plated.
Chain on my camper has 50mm long links maybe bigger but crossed under the towbar with rated shackles its not going anywhere,
especially with the O'Brien coupling
Just read the GoSee link by Cuppa. sounds strange as when I went to get my trailer rego'ed
all they wanted was a current weigh bridge ticket,and receipts for all material used.
Not once was I asked what chain or shackles were used, they didnt even want to see it.
If I go and get some stamped chain I wouldn't be able to get a shackle big enough to cover the
camper weight.
I bet most caravans and camper trailers would fail the AS set, but who cares seems nobody
$40,000 CT and a $2 shackle =
Does every one here use rated shackles????
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25th February 2015, 12:09 PM
#39
I am he, fear me
I do, mainly because they are cheap insurance.
Don't forget tho that Shackles are rated against a standard for lifting etc and depending on grade will have a design factor of between 4 and 7 times breaking strain.
What that means is the AS cannot be directly applied to the use of the shackles for towing applications
IE there would need to be another legislation that links Rated Shackles (and chain for that matter) to ADR's or Traffic Acts in the various states.
Bottom line of that is if the breaking strain (not WLL) of the shackle exceeds the load all is tickety boo and the shackle is fit for purpose.
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25th February 2015, 12:16 PM
#40
Patrol God
and say so all of us, it hard convincing ppl that the SWL and WLL do no apply to towing.
But thats been done here before.
Main thing is you buy the best you can to cover your pride and joy,
It would tick me off big time if insurance knocked you back for a $2 shackle,[buy rated please]
Last edited by threedogs; 25th February 2015 at 12:27 PM.
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