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    thanks for sharing mudrunner, i always wondered about these. i spose it all comes down to finding the correct inflation levels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    Changing a CV in the bush with the Exhaust Jack.

    Would never go any other way. Note the wheel went under the car for safety and we ran the winch cable out to the side as we were on a side slope in this pic. Do that with a High lift or Bottle jack and feel safe? Good luck.

    Imagine the same photo in a Rutting Mud hole or Sand???? Murphy's law will alway put you in the worst spot when you need to fix it mate

    Exhaust Jack 100% of the time, it is part of my Standard Recovery Equipment.

    to do this with a Hi Lift i would have to lift the car from the front bar and allow for full suspension articulation to lift the wheel off the ground! That is a Long Way Up! Note the Exhaust jack is straight under the diff and the diff is nearly flat. all good and nice and safe.


    **Note in the top pic that the rear suspension is not even articulating!! the car is nearly in a flat stance as it would sit in your driveway!!
    Did you really broke your cv..??? You played it hard boss...really hard! What are the common causes cv to break anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    Changing a CV in the bush with the Exhaust Jack.



    Would never go any other way. Note the wheel went under the car for safety and we ran the winch cable out to the side as we were on a side slope in this pic. Do that with a High lift or Bottle jack and feel safe? Good luck.

    Imagine the same photo in a Rutting Mud hole or Sand???? Murphy's law will alway put you in the worst spot when you need to fix it mate

    Exhaust Jack 100% of the time, it is part of my Standard Recovery Equipment.

    to do this with a Hi Lift i would have to lift the car from the front bar and allow for full suspension articulation to lift the wheel off the ground! That is a Long Way Up! Note the Exhaust jack is straight under the diff and the diff is nearly flat. all good and nice and safe.
    I nominate this thread for 'The Best Safety Pic'

    Amazing!!!!Occasionally, I come across a thread that 'floats my boat' - and this is one of them. LOL.

    From what I see in this pic and the comments from MR, he is not a risk taker and does what it takes to make his vehicle safe.

    I'd suggest all Forum members and visitors have a really good look at this pic. You might learn something - as I did.

    I have personally used both, and without any doubt, favour the 'exhaust jack'

    With any form of lifting equipment, safety must be paramount and people should not be risk takers.

    Complete concentration is required when using any lifting equipment- without being affected by alcohol, drugs or both, fatigued, hung over or dehydrated - to name a few.

    I am so impressed with this thread that I'm publicly acknowledging MR, by offering him a prize - a pair of my pre-loved, washed, dried and folded spandies.

    Well done, mate. Top effort!

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    Strewth i aint goin for no 1st prizes hahahahhaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by growlers71gq View Post
    Strewth i aint goin for no 1st prizes hahahahhaha
    They do stretch, if required - that's why I got them. lol. PML
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    Quote Originally Posted by DX grunt View Post
    I nominate this thread for 'The Best Safety Pic'

    Amazing!!!!Occasionally, I come across a thread that 'floats my boat' - and this is one of them. LOL.

    From what I see in this pic and the comments from MR, he is not a risk taker and does what it takes to make his vehicle safe.

    I'd suggest all Forum members and visitors have a really good look at this pic. You might learn something - as I did.

    I have personally used both, and without any doubt, favour the 'exhaust jack'

    With any form of lifting equipment, safety must be paramount and people should not be risk takers.

    Complete concentration is required when using any lifting equipment- without being affected by alcohol, drugs or both, fatigued, hung over or dehydrated - to name a few.

    I am so impressed with this thread that I'm publicly acknowledging MR, by offering him a prize - a pair of my pre-loved, washed, dried and folded spandies.

    Well done, mate. Top effort!

    Take care out there.

    Rossco

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    Quote Originally Posted by NissPat View Post
    But everything is so much clearer and easier after a few cans
    Remind me to stand well clear when you get yer exhaust jack out hahahahahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by growlers71gq View Post
    Remind me to stand well clear when you get yer exhaust jack out hahahahahahahahaha
    C'mon mate, I reckon I might need a second set of lungs to blow the sucker up...HAHAHHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty_nail View Post
    thanks for sharing mudrunner, i always wondered about these. i spose it all comes down to finding the correct inflation levels?
    The correct inflation levels are really basic. You can inflate an exhaust jack off idle on a diesel! i did in the pics above! might have given it a slight rev but its not hard. In terms of amount of inflation! inflate till the car is high enough then stop Just like any other jack! They have a non-return valve so just make the adjustments and on your way. They do tend to go down very very slowly like most other jacks and every 5 or 10 minutes on a job like an emergency CV we just tickle her up a couple of inches whenever it needs it.

    We even adjusted the height of the diff to stop the diff oil running out the swivel hub during the repair by lifting that little bit more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ade View Post
    Did you really broke your cv..??? You played it hard boss...really hard! What are the common causes cv to break anyway?
    LMAO Ummm????? Yes i definitely Broke the CV

    VVVVV A Close up pic of a nearly serviceable CV





    This can be done with Big Tyres Spinning off the Ground then slamming into the ground with a bit of a Whack! Bugger!

    Here is another shot of the setup of the Exhaust Jack and Winch rope tether. the tether was out at about a 60degree angle to the car to stop us rolling sideways when the jack lifted the car.



    Fun Day.

    Rebuilt the front end the following weekend then went and smashed the Highmount the weekend after that! Damn it.
    Last edited by MudRunnerTD; 4th May 2012 at 05:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
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