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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    No mate not at all. That is a factory tie down point only and is designed to be used during shipping from Japan and if your car ever needs to go on a flat bead (touch wood)

    Under No Circumstances should you every use it in any form of recovery.

    Stay safe and thanks for asking.
    Ok thanks I didnt think so but saw someon with shackles on so thought I would ask. Also is this a factory recovery point from the looks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kind View Post
    Ok thanks I didnt think so but saw someon with shackles on so thought I would ask. Also is this a factory recovery point from the looks?
    Cheers mate,

    Ys that is a pic of a Factory Nissan Recovery point. I use this on the front of my GUIV without hesitation. I have read stories though of them straightening out but am yet to see a photo of one that this has happened to and am not sure if its a wives tail or not mate. I use it.

    Note*** I also try my best Not to get Stuck. When I do I consider the Maths before attempting any recovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    Cheers mate,

    Note*** I also try my best Not to get Stuck. When I do I consider the Maths before attempting any recovery.
    Yeah thats why im asking I have never had to be recovered from the front cause im always the first one in haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by kind View Post
    Yeah thats why im asking I have never had to be recovered from the front cause im always the first one in haha
    sometimes you cant get in front of the bogged vehicle and you cant turn around so you have to do a reverse snatch. Ugly but sometimes necessary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie View Post
    Well its simple then... darwinism should come into play soon and you dont want to be near them.. Explain it once and how you are not telling just to make yourself look the know it all but for there own safety, if they take heed then good on them and well done but if they dont then...GET STUFFED!!!!!!!
    Agree with you but its still bloody hard to turn away cause that thought goes through ya head what if I read about one of these guys getting belted in the head by a the ball in the morning paper
    Theres only one thing tougher than my truck............. YES DEAR GOING TO DO THE LAWNS NOW
    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries,can and do kill people and damage property

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    ImageUploadedByMotorculture1386195736.853220.jpg here is a pic I found a while ago, make what you want of it, I have posted it before. I believe the front hook is fine for recovery but like everything there are rules and it seems no side loading at all which is always hard to achieve when doing a recovery.... For what outback ideas charges and considering the quality of his recovery points they are almost a no brainer....
    His points are brilliant...

    Scotty

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    Quote Originally Posted by rottodiver View Post
    ImageUploadedByMotorculture1386195736.853220.jpg here is a pic I found a while ago, make what you want of it, I have posted it before. I believe the front hook is fine for recovery but like everything there are rules and it seems no side loading at all which is always hard to achieve when doing a recovery.... For what outback ideas charges and considering the quality of his recovery points they are almost a no brainer....
    His points are brilliant...

    Scotty
    Thanks Scotty,

    I Note that they specifically state towing from Sand, Mud and Snow which i would consider for Snatch type recoveries so all is good. The reason they say not to undertake general Towing from this point is that the "Tow strap" can come off the hook as it is not a closed hook and can be dangerous.

    I note that there is a hole other debate about the suitability of the Nissan Recovery points and i certainly use an Outback Ideas rear recover tow hitch on both cars that has seen a heap of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Dung Beetle View Post
    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
    The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.

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    You ever removed the rear oem loop and seen how its held together? I was quite shocked to say the least.

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    Just to touch on the rear loop I know they weren't allowed on vic comp trucks
    as is but I believe they could be used if they were welded on the other side.
    But again no idea what swl or wwl you would achieve, similar with the front hook
    some clubs allow them others don't, they do break and straighten but not as often as ppl think.
    Like ALL recovery items they need to be checked and replaced if they look IFFY, this includes shackles , hooks ,
    snatch blocks. Best thing would be do a recovery course so you can pass on good information to others who
    may be "green" when it comes to this. We all have to learn at some stage and continue to learn, so stay safe
    only one person directing the recovery ,please
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    You ever removed the rear oem loop and seen how its held together? I was quite shocked to say the least.
    Yes looks can be deceiving, the reality is that if you did manage to damage a factory point you are doing your recoveries wrong! You might have also damaged the chassis as well.

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