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Woof
10th August 2017, 06:13 PM
Worth having in your Patrol, just ordered one
https://survivalfirstaid.worldsecuresystems.com/shop/first-aid-kits/snake-bite-kit
Use SNAKE as the Discount Code and receive 10% off

PeeBee
10th August 2017, 06:44 PM
Worth having in your Patrol, just ordered one
https://survivalfirstaid.worldsecuresystems.com/shop/first-aid-kits/snake-bite-kit
Use SNAKE as the Discount Code and receive 10% off

Thanks, just bought one. Looking for one now for 'camel bite' and 'aphid bite', as you just can't be too prepared can you! Good find.

MudRunnerTD
10th August 2017, 07:39 PM
I bought one the other day actually. You might have seen it on my news feed on Facebook doggy.

I did a 1st aid courses yesterday and when the guy was talkm ing about compound bandages for snake bites I mentioned this one with the square. He smiled at me and pulled one out of his bag and said he'd been teaching 1st aid for st John for 30 years and I was the first person ever to ask about this type of bandage. Lol. He was a big fan. I'm waiting on the kit to arrive.

PeeBee
11th August 2017, 10:06 AM
on a serious note, have you seen a shark bite kit, which i guess would have a fair amount of absorbtion bandages and maybe a blood clotting pack? Thought this would be equally as important, but equally as specific as the snake bite kit.

UncleFrosty
11th August 2017, 10:25 AM
on a serious note, have you seen a shark bite kit, which i guess would have a fair amount of absorbtion bandages and maybe a blood clotting pack? Thought this would be equally as important, but equally as specific as the snake bite kit.
May as well pack a few units of blood and a cannula kit too??? ;-)
However, you've just reminded me to source an Israeli Bandage (or similar) for my kit tho.

PeeBee
11th August 2017, 10:46 AM
May as well pack a few units of blood and a cannula kit too??? ;-)
However, you've just reminded me to source an Israeli Bandage (or similar) for my kit tho.

I hear you, but not all bite victims die from the event especially if you can reduce the blood loss via compression. Whats an Israeli bandage?

mudnut
11th August 2017, 10:54 AM
Thank you. You have reminded me to put the snake bite bandages I have already got, in the Patrol and farm ute.

Shark bite kit:

UncleFrosty
11th August 2017, 11:48 AM
I hear you, but not all bite victims die from the event especially if you can reduce the blood loss via compression. Whats an Israeli bandage?
True. Compression is the key.
Israeli Bandage started out as a military tourniquet - maybe available commercially/ domestically now - I found out about them on a CareFlight first responder course. Similar to/same as Combat Application Tourniquets (C-A-Ts). Designed for single handed use.

MudRunnerTD
11th August 2017, 06:35 PM
on a serious note, have you seen a shark bite kit, which i guess would have a fair amount of absorbtion bandages and maybe a blood clotting pack? Thought this would be equally as important, but equally as specific as the snake bite kit.

Not really. The snake bite kit is marketed to bush users. Hunters, bush walkers, 4wder. The bandage specifically is for a compression bandage to help achieve optimal compression tension. It is said that it will also help a solo person apply the bandage easily.

Interestingly, this bandage is particularly suitable to Australia. World wide there are a number of treatments for snake bites and not all snakes and spiders have venom that is suitable for a compression bandage. If you get it wrong a compression bandage will be detrimental.

Luckily in Australia ALL Snakes and the Funnel Web and Mouse Spiders require a compression bandage and ALL Other Spiders all require an ice pack and immobilization for relief and monitor. If the patient get a worse seek medical attention.


For the benefit of the members.

The treatment for any snake bite in Australia and Funnel Web and Mouse Spider bites is to identify the bite location before applying the compression bandage.

The snake venom of all Australian snakes does not attack the blood so a tourniquet to the upper limb is a waste of time. The venom travels through the lymphatic fluid so total compression on the limb is essential.

Once the bite site is located take note of its location. DO NOT clean the bite and leave any venom, blood or fluid present on the skin and apply the compression bandage to the entire limb. If available apply a second bandage over the top to the length of the limb. Using a texta or pen clearly Mark on the bandage exactly where the bite site is so that it can be located by medical staff without removing the bandage.

Immobilize the patient and send for help.

When the patient arrives at hospital the medical staff will leave the compression bandage in place and pull aside or cut the bandage only around the bite site and test any fluid to determine the type of venom. It is imperative to treat with the antivenom prior to removing the compression bandage and limit the effect of the lymphatic flow.

This is the same.for Funnel Web and Mouse spider bites.

Stay safe folks.

PeeBee
11th August 2017, 08:31 PM
There are a couple of shark bite kits specifically refined for this emergency. They are being rolled out at beaches around Australia as standard kit, so if you play around on the beaches it might be a worthwhile extension to your first aid kit. I have extended my kit with additional modules for burns, eye injuries and fractures, plus purchased a defibrillator unit as well. Now I have the snake kit and will consider the shark bite kit down the track when we start travelling more to coastal areas.

lucus30
12th August 2017, 12:28 PM
Not really. The snake bite kit is marketed to bush users. Hunters, bush walkers, 4wder. The bandage specifically is for a compression bandage to help achieve optimal compression tension. It is said that it will also help a solo person apply the bandage easily.

Interestingly, this bandage is particularly suitable to Australia. World wide there are a number of treatments for snake bites and not all snakes and spiders have venom that is suitable for a compression bandage. If you get it wrong a compression bandage will be detrimental.

Luckily in Australia ALL Snakes require a compression bandage and ALL Spiders EXCLUDING the Funnel Web and Mouse Spiders all require a compression bandage.


For the benefit of the members.

The treatment for any snake bite in Australia and most spider bites is to identify the bite location before applying the compression bandage.

The snake venom of all Australian snakes does not attack the blood so a tourniquet to the upper limb is a waste of time. The venom travels through the lymphatic fluid so total compression on the limb is essential.

Once the bite site is located take note of its location. DO NOT clean the bite and leave any venom, blood or fluid present on the skin and apply the compression bandage to the entire limb. If available apply a second bandage over the top to the length of the limb. Using a texta or pen clearly Mark on the bandage exactly where the bite site is so that it can be located by medical staff without removing the bandage.

Immobilize the patient and send for help.

When the patient arrives at hospital the medical staff will leave the compression bandage in place and pull aside or cut the bandage only around the bite site and test any fluid to determine the type of venom. It is imperative to treat with the antivenom prior to removing the compression bandage and limit the effect of the lymphatic flow.

This is the same.for spider bites.

Stay safe folks.

I nearly bought the kit but the only thing i'm missing is the SAM splint so thinking I might just buy that separately. I already have their expedition first aid with a couple of the SMART snake bandages

the evil twin
12th August 2017, 02:57 PM
Snip...

... Luckily in Australia ALL Snakes require a compression bandage and ALL Spiders EXCLUDING the Funnel Web and Mouse Spiders all require a compression bandage.


Stay safe folks.

Other way around for the Pida's, Cobber... Funnel Web and Mouse Spiders DO require a PIB sama sama as Snake bites.
All other spiders are Ice Pack and monitor IE do not apply a PIB.

http://www.spiders.com.au/spider-bite-first-aid.html
http://stjohn.org.au/assets/uploads/fact%20sheets/english/FS_spider.pdf

Touses
13th August 2017, 11:43 AM
Good call on this Doggy, will definitely order one! Now, what to do with the bottle of rum in the first aid kit???

MudRunnerTD
13th August 2017, 03:48 PM
Other way around for the Pida's, Cobber... Funnel Web and Mouse Spiders DO require a PIB sama sama as Snake bites.
All other spiders are Ice Pack and monitor IE do not apply a PIB.

http://www.spiders.com.au/spider-bite-first-aid.html
http://stjohn.org.au/assets/uploads/fact%20sheets/english/FS_spider.pdf

Thanks ET. You are right as usual. Ice pack for most bites except Funnel and Mouse Spiders which sh would be treated as per a Snake bite.

MudRunnerTD
13th August 2017, 03:57 PM
Other way around for the Pida's, Cobber... Funnel Web and Mouse Spiders DO require a PIB sama sama as Snake bites.
All other spiders are Ice Pack and monitor IE do not apply a PIB.

http://www.spiders.com.au/spider-bite-first-aid.html
http://stjohn.org.au/assets/uploads/fact%20sheets/english/FS_spider.pdf

Edited the post, thanks mate.

jack
22nd August 2017, 03:06 PM
Mine arrived today, looks like a quality kit. Hope to never need to use it.

MudRunnerTD
22nd August 2017, 04:33 PM
Yeah mine arrived today too with a bonus CPR key fob kit with face shield and valve. Looks like a great lit. Very pleased..

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/206.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/207.jpg

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PeeBee
22nd August 2017, 06:20 PM
Yep, so did mine, plus bonus! Good and compact.

jack
22nd August 2017, 06:20 PM
Yeap also received the CPR kit and a personalised thank-you note, nice touch.

Woof
19th June 2018, 05:50 PM
$30 discount on now, just use the discount code TAXTIME at the checkout
https://www.survivalfirstaidkits.net.au/shop/first-aid-kits/snake-bite-kit

I have nothing to do with this company or its products, just suggesting that it may be handy to have.

the evil twin
19th June 2018, 09:38 PM
A slight digression that some may find helpful... as told to me by an Survival Instructor who likes to keep things simple.
I take no credit nor assume any responsibility for the following (if anyone sees something wrong then pls speak up) but what he said to us was...

"All of our potentially fatal Venomous Snakes, Cone Shell, Blue Ring Occy and Funnelweb Spider venom etc primarily attacks via the lymphatic system"
"If you get bit by something that will kill you, apply a PIB, immobilise and do not elevate"
"If you get bit by something that won't normally kill you but will hurt like the bejesus apply an Ice Pack and rest"
"Don't put a PIB on a non fatal bite as the area will want to swell and the pressure bandage will be excruciating

Given the above then a specific 'Snake Bite Kit' is handy as a lot of First Aid Kits won't have enough bandages to do a decent PIB

davewanna
25th June 2019, 10:25 PM
Shark bite kit? Really?

Avo
25th June 2019, 11:29 PM
Shark bite kit? Really?Cant be under prepared

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