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beexy
17th November 2016, 09:21 PM
Hi all. As title suggests looking to buy a tablet. Plan to use for general Internet bit also for off road navigation. Please keep it simple I'm not very technical minded. Also what programs are best for nav. Have hema explorer on the phone but not keen on having to pay for their upgrade. Have heard ozi explorer thrown around

Rumcajs
17th November 2016, 09:37 PM
G'day,

A tablet is very generalized question. First you need to decide on the platform that is being Android or iOS (Apple iPad) or those over priced Microsoft Surface offerings powered. Then it is the size, 7", 8", 10".

I have 7" Android tablet and honestly I struggle to keep it somewhere on the Nissan dashboard/windscreen.

Then it is a question of navigation apps, Ozi explorer for Android still needs to be purchased and you still need valid map files e.g. from Hema.

There is also a question of privacy, Android based tablets leak huge amount of personal information to 3rd parties unless you know how to gain super user privilege and block/plug those leaks, evil Google will simply fight all the way to steal all the juicy data about you, your habits etc. IMHO Android ecosystem is becoming a liability to personal safety and privacy. The incessant data mining and "phoning home" on Android platform is a nightmare G. Orwell has warned about in 1984 novel.

If you are not technically minded and don't mind forking out a bit extra and I can't believe I'm saying it (I used to be a huge Android fan) I'd seriously consider Apple's iPad line of tablet, they just work and Apple is banking on protecting your privacy actually.

Otherwise avoid the cheap Chinese Android tablets, they're utter junks/garbage. Usually Samsung tablets are OK.

Regards

MB
17th November 2016, 09:44 PM
G'day Beexy, I'm not too techy myself either mate. Blokes here have kindly suggested sticking with McApple iPad instead of a tablet thingo. Reason explained to me I think was that 'Memory-Map' app can be booted up with some blokes rooftop scanned awesome efforts. Hopefully someone can pasty the forum link here for you mate!

MB
17th November 2016, 09:46 PM
Apologies Rumcajs mate, slowly typing me at the same time :-)

beexy
17th November 2016, 09:51 PM
Thanks guys. May have to lean towards the apple. What sort should i be looking for and what nav programs are best on it.

Rossco
17th November 2016, 09:58 PM
Hey mate, I've got a Samsung tab 10 inch and love it. Use hema for general stuff (not too bad but don't love their maps) and memory map with scanned rooftop paper maps for the vic high country which is awesome but takes a fair bit of work to get them on there. Drewboy did a great thread if you want to go this way. Also can tether it to the phone and use Google maps for cites and the burbs which is pretty good. Had a dick smith special suction cap jobbie but made some mods so it's secure on the dash now and is rock solid.

Apple & Android, ford and holden really personally hate the lack of flexibility with apple, android seems to do everything i need easily. It's handy for looking at photos off the slr and a bit of Internet when traveling too.

MB
17th November 2016, 09:58 PM
Rumcajs AB Rossco :-) ?

Rumcajs
17th November 2016, 10:06 PM
Look, mapping progress on mobile (not phone) platform like tablets is a bit of joke really. Hema has the market in Australia stitched up in with collaboration Ozi Explorer (they basically playing in to each other hand, Hema provides maps and Ozi the software) and both are charging a ransom for it. There was alternative free app (Androzic) on Android which could process/play with Hema/Ozi format maps so those two changed the format to lock this competitor out.

Other alternatives on iPad are not cheap indeed nothing is cheap in Apple ecosystem, Hema will cost you, Memory maps will cost you, Mud maps will cost you, nothing is cheap when it comes to 4WDriving maps thanks to that Hema monopoly. You can try to get the mapping data yourself from Geoscience Australia for free (its AU government organization) but these files are huge and take a lots of processing to convert to format be used on the device of your choosing.

If you don't want to or can't fcuk around then buying complete Hema unit is the simplest thing to do for a price of course.

Cheers

Rumcajs
17th November 2016, 10:29 PM
Hey mate, I've got a Samsung tab 10 inch and love it. Use hema for general stuff (not too bad but don't love their maps) and memory map with scanned rooftop paper maps for the vic high country which is awesome but takes a fair bit of work to get them on there. Drewboy did a great thread if you want to go this way. Also can tether it to the phone and use Google maps for cites and the burbs which is pretty good. Had a dick smith special suction cap jobbie but made some mods so it's secure on the dash now and is rock solid.

Apple & Android, ford and holden really personally hate the lack of flexibility with apple, android seems to do everything i need easily. It's handy for looking at photos off the slr and a bit of Internet when traveling too.

Why bother with Google maps, you can use Android OsmAnd~ app in offline mode easily, very accurate free maps of entire world (regularly updated), include topo data and loaded with features that you wonder how did you go without. Alas a true 4WD mapping is not there as yet but they're working on it. If it is well travelled popular place it will be included with some off road tracks as well. But you can also make your own or edit those maps yourself.

Regards

MB
17th November 2016, 11:33 PM
Aargh bugger me you tech blokes, friggin confused as chit now :-( Never Eat Soggy Weetbix they said :-) Will have to turn left at the ocean and keep heading upwards until the sign post says stop Papua :-)

Clunk
17th November 2016, 11:50 PM
I dont bother with a tablet anymore, just use my Samsung Note 4, and Hema Explorer, screen is big enough and does everything I need. No need to carry extra crap around anymore........ or the other obvious option for a large screen is, dare I say it a IPhone 6 or 7 plus.
I just don't see the point in a tablet anymore...... but that's just my opinion

Kimbo63
18th November 2016, 12:09 AM
I dont bother with a tablet anymore, just use my Samsung Note 4, and Hema Explorer, screen is big enough and does everything I need. No need to carry extra crap around anymore........ or the other obvious option for a large screen is, dare I say it a IPhone 6 or 7 plus.
I just don't see the point in a tablet anymore...... but that's just my opinion
You will mate when you're eyes get as bad as mine lol

Clunk
18th November 2016, 12:12 AM
You will mate when you're eyes get as bad as mine lol
Nah, I just put me varifocals on lol

Stropp
18th November 2016, 08:09 PM
i use an ipad with hema maps mounted on a bracket off the dash, best thing ever.

VK2FMIA
21st November 2016, 10:22 AM
Hi all. As title suggests looking to buy a tablet. Plan to use for general Internet bit also for off road navigation. Please keep it simple I'm not very technical minded. Also what programs are best for nav. Have hema explorer on the phone but not keen on having to pay for their upgrade. Have heard ozi explorer thrown around

Just spent the weekend testing a cheap 7 inch tablet running Oziexplorer Android. The tablet is a XGODY T73Q, cost $68 on Ebay paired with a Kingpin bluetooth GPS unit (cost around $28 from memory). I use Ozi on the PC & have converted the map files using Image to OZF4 program from the Oziexplorer website. Have loaded maps for NSW in 1:25000, 1:50000 base maps & 1:25000 topo maps. Will load other maps when needed.

Tablet cost $68
GPS $28
Ozi App $36
Maps Free

So for $132 have got a cheap & easy to use navigation system. I also run Oziexplorer on a 10 inch laptop, but find the tablet version easier to use on the move. With the Screen Designer for the Ozi app it is easy to design your own screens to use.

Happy with the way it works so far, will be interesting to see how long the tablet will last.

beexy
24th November 2016, 07:16 PM
I think due to price and being familiar with the system I'll go a Samsung Galaxy tablet. Just need to work out ozi explorer or memory maps. Already have henna explorer on the mobile.

Tony's 4.8
25th December 2016, 07:43 AM
Just read your post. I have been using a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 with inbuilt GPS for 3 years. Has worked a treat. No issues.
Have tried every mapping program there is and always come back to Ozi Explorer. Would recommend it to anyone.

Sent from Tony's Samsung S5 using Taptalk.

Boinzo
25th December 2016, 11:29 AM
Just saw this thread and wanted to add, for anyone considering an Apple iPad for Nav use.... make sure you get one with a SIM Card slot. The non-gsm mobile-only models *do not* have a gps built in!

UncleFrosty
26th December 2016, 12:50 AM
You can try to get the mapping data yourself from Geoscience Australia for free (its AU government organization) but these files are huge and take a lots of processing to convert to format be used on the device of your choosing.
Rumcajs
I think Shonky Maps is the GA mapping data stitched together - might save some work? Still large files tho'. Not sure how usable they are as I haven't installed them yet after downloading a few years ago (required Garmin Software on PC at time of download to install the map data) to run on a marine handheld GPS.

Hodge
26th December 2016, 08:12 AM
I use a Galaxy Tab S. 8 inch purely for hema explorer. Works wonderful from the use I've put through it ...
I do have a full set of hema maps compatible with Ozi, but never actually bonded the 2 together.