12v power for the Kids in the back

[MudRunnerTD]

So a little project I had was to sort out some charging points for the kids in the back of the GUIV for long drives. We need to charge the iPads and other devices. USB charging is all I need.

So I bought some plugs and housings off eBay with a view to fit them to the B pillar but as it turns out they may foul the seat belt for the front seats and was going to be a bugger to install.

Option 2. Into the door. I ditched the housings and fitted 1 to each door. 2 back doors and front passenger for the win.

Now the bastard was how to power them up? I had figured to run a fused circuit from the second battery via a switch. The USB points all have an LED light built in so I had to be able to switch them off via a switch.

Well yesterday I striped off a handle only for a look. Got the multi meter out and found 12v power at the window switch that had constant 12v whenever the accessories was turned on on the ignition. That will do me fine.

I gave Yendor a call to run my plan past him and confirm the window circuit could handle the extra load. All good. He recommended I grab an earth at each point though rather than the existing earth as that went back through the drivers door control circuit.

Here is a very quick and simple job that will make life easy on the road!!

The USB dual plug off eBay.

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The window plug disconnected. The White wire with the silver band is the one you want. Far right.

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Now note that there is structure under the trim. Drilling from the top using a hole saw in a drill press I drilled through the structure.

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I broke off the tabs left using a pair of pliers so I could tighten the locking ring on the back.

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Happy days.

Now I made a loom long enough to go from the underside of the plug, down into the handle, behind the trim, out the the hinge area. This is were I grabbed my earth.

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Now I cut the white wire with the silver band and using a 3way crimp connector I spliced into this wire

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And Bob's ya Aunties Grandma!!!

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So the first one probably took 40 minutes including nutting out how I was going to do it, changing my mind, calling Yendor and finishing the job!

Wiring up through a switch from the second battery to the centre console then making a loom out to each door would have taken a good 4 to 6 hours I reckon.

The other passenger door took no more than 10 minutes!!

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The front passenger door didn't miss out either

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All three doors in about an hour!!! Stoked with the outcome! Thanks Yendor for your advice mate! Winner!!!


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[Winnie]

Awesome job as usual Darren! I tried to put some USB points in the back of the centre console but there was not enough room. Door trims are a good idea.

[threedogs]

Thats a different place I have mine behind the centre console .
not a fan of mounting any switch facing up but thats just me.
Looks factory so thats a plus

[BigRAWesty]

More brains than beauty I tell ya..
Gunna steal this one.. Wife will be very happy. .

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah they have dust covers. The back of the console is exposed to damaging cords with kids feet. I think this will work really well with the kids on long touring trips. No more "dad I need to charge my iPad!" They are responsible for sorting themselves out.

[threedogs]

My mates kids when younger used to cut apples in half using the power windows lol
so anything facing up would have juice ,you name it in any switch

[MudRunnerTD]

My mates kids when younger used to cut apples in half using the power windows lol
so anything facing up would have juice ,you name it in any switch

Haha!! That would evoke an ass whooping!!!

[Hodge]

Brilliant job Darren. May definitely need to pinch this idea for my boy at the back when he begins playing with tablets etc...

[mudski]

Yeah good job mate. Nice and easy for the kids....
I have done similar but my issue is that my phone, my tablet and the kids tablets use 3.1A outputs. I have one of those Baintech sockets, same as yours, and the anp rating is too low so i have found it takes longer than usual to charge.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah the standard 12v jack is a 2.1amp or a 1amp. That say the iPhone needs 1amp and the iPod needs 2.1amp. If you charge an iPhone on a 2.1amp charger it's like a fast charger. The iPad will maintain charge on the 2.1amp port if it is in use.

I ran hema maps on my iPad for the Simpson trip. It maintained charge and recharged on the 2.1 but took most of the day to climb back up when I drained it.

Each door got a 2.1 amp and1amp port so should handle the job. I was a little concerned with the load but Rodney was confident it would be fine. Happy days.

[Winnie]

Yeah the standard 12v jack is a 2.1amp or a 1amp. That say the iPhone needs 1amp and the iPod needs 2.1amp. If you charge an iPhone on a 2.1amp charger it's like a fast charger. The iPad will maintain charge on the 2.1amp port if it is in use.

I ran hema maps on my iPad for the Simpson trip. It maintained charge and recharged on the 2.1 but took most of the day to climb back up when I drained it.

Each door got a 2.1 amp and1amp port so should handle the job. I was a little concerned with the load but Rodney was confident it would be fine. Happy days.
Yeah my ipad does the same when plugged into my CD player. If in use and plugged in, in a full day will gain about 10% charge. I just make sure it is charged before I leave home and then it stays 100% the whole time.

[mudski]

Yeah the standard 12v jack is a 2.1amp or a 1amp. That say the iPhone needs 1amp and the iPod needs 2.1amp. If you charge an iPhone on a 2.1amp charger it's like a fast charger. The iPad will maintain charge on the 2.1amp port if it is in use.

I ran hema maps on my iPad for the Simpson trip. It maintained charge and recharged on the 2.1 but took most of the day to climb back up when I drained it.

Each door got a 2.1 amp and1amp port so should handle the job. I was a little concerned with the load but Rodney was confident it would be fine. Happy days.
I have Samsung gear and they all like 3amp chargers. Which makes it hard to find these things.

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[MudRunnerTD]

I have Samsung gear and they all like 3amp chargers. Which makes it hard to find these things.

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I've never seen a bigger output one!! If you find one post a link I'd be keen as mate!!

[my third 256]

here is one darren on ebay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-USB-Car-Cigarette-Lighter-Socket-12V-Charger-Power-Adapter-Outlet-IG-/262309682030?hash=item3d12e01b6e:g:32cAAOSwQYZW0YO e

[Winnie]

here is one darren on ebay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-USB-Car-Cigarette-Lighter-Socket-12V-Charger-Power-Adapter-Outlet-IG-/262309682030?hash=item3d12e01b6e:g:32cAAOSwQYZW0YO e

They are sneaky the way they advertise the current output.
That is identical to what Darren has, 2.1A for one slot and 1.0A for the second slot.
Combined you have 3.1A

[Cuppa]

They are sneaky the way they advertise the current output.
That is identical to what Darren has, 2.1A for one slot and 1.0A for the second slot.
Combined you have 3.1A


Yes & there are plenty out there which claim to ouput 2.1A which don't! The one I fitted into my second glovebox for charging my Ipad3 doesn't even provide sufficient power to maintain it's charge status when being used, it only slows down the discharge rate. It will recharge if the ipad is not being used. And it wasn't a cheapie either.

[threedogs]

I have Samsung gear and they all like 3amp chargers. Which makes it hard to find these things.

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My Samsung phone charges ok through one of the double Baintech type USB outlets

[MudRunnerTD]

here is one darren on ebay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-USB-Car-Cigarette-Lighter-Socket-12V-Charger-Power-Adapter-Outlet-IG-/262309682030?hash=item3d12e01b6e:g:32cAAOSwQYZW0YO e


They are sneaky the way they advertise the current output.
That is identical to what Darren has, 2.1A for one slot and 1.0A for the second slot.
Combined you have 3.1A

and the problem with that one is you don't know which one is assigned with 2.1amp and which is 1amp. and it will be assigned! Tricky bastards. Id love to find a double 2.1amp output each side. something with more would be great too.

[threedogs]

One of the better mods I've seen lately what made you think of that position ??
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-1A-High-Speed-Mini-3-port-USB-Car-Charger-Charging-Cable-for-iPhone-Cell-Phone/111669608995?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D20140106155344%26meid%3Df062ea7a25bf4e3bacd 5521616fab7b6%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26 sd%3D291541586443

How do they work out 5 amps is it all three combined??

[mudski]

Yes & there are plenty out there which claim to ouput 2.1A which don't! The one I fitted into my second glovebox for charging my Ipad3 doesn't even provide sufficient power to maintain it's charge status when being used, it only slows down the discharge rate. It will recharge if the ipad is not being used. And it wasn't a cheapie either.

Thats what my Baintech socket does. Quite disappointed. I now use a Genuine Samsung 3amp fast charge ciggie socket outlet one and is works really well.

[MyGU8]

I put the usb charger on the back of the centre console right below the rear ac control.
Although I would like to put it on the side, as once the kids kicked the cable when plugged in (boys...)

Window/arm rest would be a worry for me as I am sure they will open the door several times with the iPad or iPod plugged in and dragging and throwing them outside.

[MudRunnerTD]

I put the usb charger on the back of the centre console right below the rear ac control.
Although I would like to put it on the side, as once the kids kicked the cable when plugged in (boys...)

Window/arm rest would be a worry for me as I am sure they will open the door several times with the iPad or iPod plugged in and dragging and throwing them outside.


Yes this crossed my mind but you can't win the all. Pros versus cons. Pros won! I will make a point of reminding the kids whenever we pull up to unplug before getting out.

[taslucas]

Yes this crossed my mind but you can't win the all. Pros versus cons. Pros won! I will make a point of reminding the kids whenever we pull up to unplug before getting out.
This is your captain speaking, please return all tray tables to the upright position and for gods sake unplug those bloody ipads!

>>>tappin from tassie

[jay see]

Another thing to add to the list!!!!!!!!!!!

Sure I've seen this done before, but without the brilliant write up, might even been on another forum. Can't remember. Anyway nice clean finish as always Darren.

[88WAH]

Slowly going through all the forum sections, and finding awesome ideas like these. Winning!
Looks the goods.

[lovejones]

Thats actually a awesome idea, ive currently got cables all over the place for various gadgets.

ive just ordered me 3 of these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301835932614?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=600646411213&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

thanks for the idea ;)

[blocko05]

great job mate.thanks for sharing

[Makka]

i would have done it slightly different i'm not a fan of terminals like that in hard to get places .......
i personally would have got some heat shrink cut the wire split the strands into two on all three twist them to gether then solderd place heat shrink over the lot and heated it ......... but thats me but awesome job all the same
only reason i say this is dust and vibration

[MudRunnerTD]

MB check this out mate