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MyGU8
17th January 2016, 04:37 PM
Hello guys and ladies,

I love to spend time in public camping spots but unfortunately the toilet makes a big issue for us.

What do you do for your toilet needs during family camping in public places.
Thanks

threedogs
17th January 2016, 04:43 PM
If the wives come we'll drive to the caravan Park for them to use those facilities.
We'll also buy stores ,drinks etc from there as well for the convenience
This is free camping along the Murray north of Shep...

MyGU8
17th January 2016, 04:48 PM
TD, I assume you drive only for toilet to caravan park, but what about places where you don't find any caravan parks close by

Winnie
17th January 2016, 04:48 PM
We bought a chemical toilet after last year's trip up to the Murray, haven't used it yet but they are a good thing.
Only thing is they do take up a fair bit of space.

threedogs
17th January 2016, 04:53 PM
escort the missus behind a big tree, well I used to
but my wife never comes camping so Im lucky there,,, I think?
Dig a decent hole, burn any paper [restrictions permitting]
and fill in the hole

Winnie
17th January 2016, 05:07 PM
escort the missus behind a big tree, well I used to
but my wife never comes camping so Im lucky there,,, I think?
Dig a decent hole, burn any paper [restrictions permitting]
and fill in the hole
Every tree near campsite on Ulupna Island has unburied crap and the paper to go with it... F**king disgusting so I will stay away from the bushes there.

threedogs
17th January 2016, 05:11 PM
Every tree near campsite on Ulupna Island has unburied crap and the paper to go with it... F**king disgusting so I will stay away from the bushes there.
Same as the Cape and the Simmo

the evil twin
17th January 2016, 05:16 PM
Hello guys and ladies,

I love to spend time in public camping spots but unfortunately the toilet makes a big issue for us.

What do you do for your toilet needs during family camping in public places.
Thanks

This 'un solved all our Toilet traumas.

Didn't pay anything like that amount of money for it tho

Link is for illustrative purpose

https://www.snowys.com.au/Portable-Toilets-Showers/Portable-Toilets/Jimmy's-Thunderbox-Toilet.aspx?c=5&sc=36&id=4148

Clunk
17th January 2016, 05:37 PM
Got one of these, with some bucket liners and put a bit of kitty litter in it..... works well and can store stuff in it while in transit

http://m.bcf.com.au/Product/Elemental-Thunder-Down-Under-Toilet/213924

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MyGU8
17th January 2016, 06:05 PM
Every tree near campsite on Ulupna Island has unburied crap and the paper to go with it... F**king disgusting so I will stay away from the bushes there.

Last week we went on a boys night out (two kids 10&8) to Carters Beach hoping to have some fun. The first thing I checked was the toilet and straight away booked in a caravan park for a night, there are so many places in high country which we like to spend some time but unfortunately restricted to caravan parks.

threedogs
17th January 2016, 06:08 PM
A lot of ppl will take a shower tent and set that up with a porta potti ,
turning the waste into a bio degradeable liquid, which is safe to dispose of
.

NissanGQ4.2
17th January 2016, 06:11 PM
We bought a chemical toilet after last year's trip up to the Murray, haven't used it yet but they are a good thing.
Only thing is they do take up a fair bit of space.

x2 - Chemical toilet, not that I go camping much these days :(

Stropp
17th January 2016, 06:59 PM
I have a camp chair I cut the arse out of, dig a hole and sit the chair over it.

Cuppa
17th January 2016, 07:53 PM
Option 1- a seat over a hole where possible, but obviously in well utilised camp spots holes full of crap everywhere are not on.

Option 2 - seat over a container containing compostable (not just biodegradeable which can take 2 years to break down) bags - can be disposed of in long drops or buried. Wheel bags are useful for carrying used bags to disposal points, avoiding any smell inside the vehicle. Best if used for ’solids only’.

Option 3 - a portapotti. We have used these extensively ...BUT... don’t use the chemicals which get sold for them. Not only do they destroy the working of any septic system the contents are tipped in, the chemicals smell as bad, if not worse than the ‘deposits’ for what the toilet was designed. The smell of the chemicals was pervasive through our vehicle when we used them, & emptying the potti was pretty rank too. Instead like many others, we now use generic napisan, look for the ones with the most Sodium Percarbonate. 34% or better will do the job, or alternatively go to your local home brew shop & buy 100% sodium percabonate (used for cleaning beer bottles). We’ve only ever used the nappy wash, a 1 KG container will last for ages & it’s cheaper than the chemicals as well as being septic safe.

Method: When setting up the portapotti cover the floor of the lower container with water & add 2 to 4 heaped teaspoons of the powder. Add another teaspoon after each ‘deposit’ & flush. Sloshing around in the vehicle when driving helps breakdown, but if it is left at camp for a while & you get any smell, just add a bit more. Works really well, & although emptying is never going to be a job you look forward to, it is much improved.

Do not buy nappy washes with added fragrances etc- just the cheaper ‘oxy action’ stuff will do. Only put plain water in the top tank. Once in a while lubricate the sliding seal with a little olive oil, spray on is easiest. An aerosol bought for the purpose will last for years.

threedogs
17th January 2016, 08:05 PM
Or wear Depends for the weekend lol

MudRunnerTD
17th January 2016, 08:14 PM
This 'un solved all our Toilet traumas.

Didn't pay anything like that amount of money for it tho

Link is for illustrative purpose

https://www.snowys.com.au/Portable-Toilets-Showers/Portable-Toilets/Jimmy's-Thunderbox-Toilet.aspx?c=5&sc=36&id=4148

I made 3 of these before the meetup in the Middle. AB and Winnie both got one and I used mine. I now carry it on n the rear wheel bag and it's my preferred setup. In the outback then anywhere over a hole. When privacy is needed then a shower tent for the win.

I gave set it up with and without a bag. I have also used it setup over a very deep hole for a week, works great.

You can buy a copy of that link for $75 from Ironman. I made mine from 5ply and used Gaffa Tape for the hinges and it's been great.

When mine dies or needs maintenance then I will probably but the $75 item. It's great.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/01/192.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/01/193.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/01/194.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/01/195.jpg

I have a custom box on the front of the camper trailer that fits a portaloo and use it when camping with my trailer but to be honest I would only use chemical if I was in a crowded camp site.


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MudRunnerTD
17th January 2016, 08:16 PM
Search google "ironman toilet"

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/01/196.jpg


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jay see
17th January 2016, 08:31 PM
A lot of ppl will take a shower tent and set that up with a porta potti ,
turning the waste into a bio degradeable liquid, which is safe to dispose of
.

Yep, that's us.
Before kids it was a hole in the ground. Trying to get the kids to do the same, but was easier to clean the toilet instead if the kids every time they had to go.


x2 - Chemical toilet, not that I go camping much these days :(

Sadly us too.

threedogs
17th January 2016, 08:37 PM
A porta potti takes up a bit of room if there is 3 guys going and no trailer or roof rack.?
You'd be stuggling just taking gear for 3 adults imo

jay see
17th January 2016, 08:42 PM
Family of 4 and the quad bike, so the back of the troll and a caged trailer pretty much full.
Still reckon we take too much tho.

threedogs
17th January 2016, 09:01 PM
Hello guys and ladies,

I love to spend time in public camping spots but unfortunately the toilet makes a big issue for us.

What do you do for your toilet needs during family camping in public places.
Thanks

Next time Im up that way you should come fishing with us, we go to Bearii which
I hope you're familiar with,
Way too hot over summer to be comfortable
A few of us go a few times a year, all going well

BigRAWesty
17th January 2016, 09:02 PM
Porta loo and pop up shower tent.
Shit is sorted...

growler2058
17th January 2016, 09:20 PM
Nearest river, then chuck in a line

NissanGQ4.2
17th January 2016, 09:45 PM
Option 3 - a portapotti. We have used these extensively ...BUT... don’t use the chemicals which get sold for them. Not only do they destroy the working of any septic system the contents are tipped in, the chemicals smell as bad, if not worse than the ‘deposits’ for what the toilet was designed. The smell of the chemicals was pervasive through our vehicle when we used them, & emptying the potti was pretty rank too. Instead like many others, we now use generic napisan, look for the ones with the most Sodium Percarbonate. 34% or better will do the job, or alternatively go to your local home brew shop & buy 100% sodium percabonate (used for cleaning beer bottles). We’ve only ever used the nappy wash, a 1 KG container will last for ages & it’s cheaper than the chemicals as well as being septic safe.

Method: When setting up the portapotti cover the floor of the lower container with water & add 2 to 4 heaped teaspoons of the powder. Add another teaspoon after each ‘deposit’ & flush. Sloshing around in the vehicle when driving helps breakdown, but if it is left at camp for a while & you get any smell, just add a bit more. Works really well, & although emptying is never going to be a job you look forward to, it is much improved.

Do not buy nappy washes with added fragrances etc- just the cheaper ‘oxy action’ stuff will do. Only put plain water in the top tank. Once in a while lubricate the sliding seal with a little olive oil, spray on is easiest. An aerosol bought for the purpose will last for years.

Thanks Cuppa, need 2 purchase more chemical so will try your method instead :)

MyGU8
17th January 2016, 09:55 PM
Porta loo and pop up shower tent.
Shit is sorted...

Saw that in Carters Beach and thought that was THE public toilet, but was told (not when I used it, but when I asked) it was private.

MyGU8
17th January 2016, 09:56 PM
Option 1- a seat over a hole where possible, but obviously in well utilised camp spots holes full of crap everywhere are not on.

Option 2 - seat over a container containing compostable (not just biodegradeable which can take 2 years to break down) bags - can be disposed of in long drops or buried. Wheel bags are useful for carrying used bags to disposal points, avoiding any smell inside the vehicle. Best if used for ’solids only’.

Option 3 - a portapotti. We have used these extensively ...BUT... don’t use the chemicals which get sold for them. Not only do they destroy the working of any septic system the contents are tipped in, the chemicals smell as bad, if not worse than the ‘deposits’ for what the toilet was designed. The smell of the chemicals was pervasive through our vehicle when we used them, & emptying the potti was pretty rank too. Instead like many others, we now use generic napisan, look for the ones with the most Sodium Percarbonate. 34% or better will do the job, or alternatively go to your local home brew shop & buy 100% sodium percabonate (used for cleaning beer bottles). We’ve only ever used the nappy wash, a 1 KG container will last for ages & it’s cheaper than the chemicals as well as being septic safe.

Method: When setting up the portapotti cover the floor of the lower container with water & add 2 to 4 heaped teaspoons of the powder. Add another teaspoon after each ‘deposit’ & flush. Sloshing around in the vehicle when driving helps breakdown, but if it is left at camp for a while & you get any smell, just add a bit more. Works really well, & although emptying is never going to be a job you look forward to, it is much improved.

Do not buy nappy washes with added fragrances etc- just the cheaper ‘oxy action’ stuff will do. Only put plain water in the top tank. Once in a while lubricate the sliding seal with a little olive oil, spray on is easiest. An aerosol bought for the purpose will last for years.

Cuppa, most useful post, thanks.

Patrol'n
18th January 2016, 02:24 AM
For family camping we use a kookaburra bush dunny (almost the same as the ironman fold up type as the missus WILL NOT squat behind a tree), with a pop up shower tent. If we can we can dig a hole with a compostible bag as a liner, otherwise if not then a double garbage bag and take the waste out, we then use saw dust to put in over the waste as it pretty much cancels any smells and seems to prevent any leakages at least so far for us.

We do make sure in those circumstances that we use good quality strong bags that can be properly tied up, and don't store them inside the vehicle before disposal, just in case....... Wheel bag seems the best option for us thus far, then dispose of at suitable disposal point.

rusty_nail
18th January 2016, 08:31 AM
im sorry but can i just ask, why is using public toilets a problem? is that what you mean? or are you saying when there are no toilets available? if thats what you mean tegan and I take a pop up toilet tent and have a fold-able toilet seat, its made from woven plastic so when we get home we just hose it off to clean it. we dig a decent hole and make sure that everything gets buried nice and deep.

BigRAWesty
18th January 2016, 09:16 AM
im sorry but can i just ask, why is using public toilets a problem? is that what you mean? or are you saying when there are no toilets available? if thats what you mean tegan and I take a pop up toilet tent and have a fold-able toilet seat, its made from woven plastic so when we get home we just hose it off to clean it. we dig a decent hole and make sure that everything gets buried nice and deep.
It's a women thing..
I don't understand my wife's fobia either..

Cuppa
18th January 2016, 09:55 AM
im sorry but can i just ask, why is using public toilets a problem? is that what you mean? or are you saying when there are no toilets available? if thats what you mean tegan and I take a pop up toilet tent and have a fold-able toilet seat, its made from woven plastic so when we get home we just hose it off to clean it. we dig a decent hole and make sure that everything gets buried nice and deep.

It does seem that some people have a ’thing’ about using public toilets, & especially ‘long drops’.
Not us though. Our Portapotti is for when camped at places where there is no public toilet & digging holes is inappropriate or as is not uncommon - impossible because of hard/rocky ground.

Sir Roofy
18th January 2016, 10:03 AM
@NIC some long drops are pretty gross mate if Jane wont use it then its bad

BigRAWesty
18th January 2016, 10:04 AM
It does seem that some people have a ’thing’ about using public toilets, & especially ‘long drops’.
Not us though. Our Portapotti is for when camped at places where there is no public toilet & digging holes is inappropriate or as is not uncommon - impossible because of hard/rocky ground.
Were the same as most times were near water..
So a 100m dash is not always gunna end well..
If out bush I do tend to dig a hole and empty portaloo contents. But mt gambier now has a free dump point at the show grounds so have used that a couple of times..
We run the 100% biodegradable chemical..
At $60 a bottle it's not cheap but it'll last a few years with the amount of time we use it..

NissanGQ4.2
18th January 2016, 01:05 PM
im sorry but can i just ask, why is using public toilets a problem?

Personally I don't have a problem with public toilets and if there are public toilets available I will use them.

Unfortunately my daughter has a phobia of long drops and its much easier to take the portapotty then 2 put up with her carry on

Cuppa
18th January 2016, 01:34 PM
http://caravanandmotorhomebooks.com/napisan-in-septic-tanks/

Winnie
18th January 2016, 01:39 PM
Thanks for the info Cuppa, we bought a bottle of the Porta-Potti chemicals when we bought the toilet. (still unused) but when that bottle is empty we'll try the Napisan equivalents for sure.
I'd heard of it before but never knew how to use it, or how much to use etc.

MyGU8
18th January 2016, 01:41 PM
im sorry but can i just ask, why is using public toilets a problem? is that what you mean? or are you saying when there are no toilets available? if thats what you mean tegan and I take a pop up toilet tent and have a fold-able toilet seat, its made from woven plastic so when we get home we just hose it off to clean it. we dig a decent hole and make sure that everything gets buried nice and deep.

Maybe I was in at the wrong time, as it was almost end of school holidays, but the status of the long drop I saw wasn't really in good hygienic, it's all good for me, but for kids I am a bit worried, because i was planning to spend my time in camping than in hospital and I hope you know what will happen with missus if the kids get sick on boys day out....!.

Cheers,

sooty_10
18th January 2016, 09:09 PM
I have an aldi porta loo and shower tent. Works a treat the missus is happy to go behind a tree when no one else is around. But even i have to admit for a no.2 it is a luxury. I even took it up camping/shooting with the boys and coped a heap of flack from them, yet they all used it....

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Winnie
18th January 2016, 10:07 PM
I have an aldi porta loo and shower tent. Works a treat the missus is happy to go behind a tree when no one else is around. But even i have to admit for a no.2 it is a luxury. I even took it up camping/shooting with the boys and coped a heap of flack from them, yet they all used it....

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Nah stuff em! If they're gonna give you shit about it then let them take their shit behind a tree! Hahaha

mudski
18th January 2016, 10:24 PM
I just take a heap of charcoal tablets a day before my camping adventure and just eat plenty of meat. Lol.

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Cuppa
25th January 2016, 08:21 PM
A cautionary follow up tale to my previous posts suggesting the use of napisan type products.

We had a porta potti in the bus, but that was some time ago now.

This past weekend we ‘christened’ our new portapotti over a few days.
We used the previous method of one spoonful of napisan type product per ‘deposit’.

Today we had a one hour drive to get home, but prior to packing up made a couple of fresh deposits
.
Not remembering how long it took for everything to become liquid & being a tad concerned that the one hour drive home may not be sufficient I decided to throw in a few extra spoonfuls.

Back home approximately 4 hours after the last deposit & just prior to emptying I thought it a good idea to pull out the slide out to inspect the contents just to ensure I wasn’t going to have a blockage problem. (It had all liquified).

BIG MISTAKE! You know what happens when you shake up a can of beer & then open it wit your face over it?

Well what else could my wife do other than cackle & call me Sh*tface!!!

At least it didn’t stink!

paulyg
25th January 2016, 08:28 PM
So you went camping and got shit faced cuppa.

Patrol-Guy
25th January 2016, 09:42 PM
I just follow this blokes instructions.

http://youtu.be/G1uE6a_r7Q4

Can't believe it wasn't posted earlier.

BigRAWesty
26th January 2016, 08:31 AM
I just follow this blokes instructions.

http://youtu.be/G1uE6a_r7Q4

Can't believe it wasn't posted earlier.
I was really hoping we didn't get a full demo lol..
But to true hey..

threedogs
26th January 2016, 02:12 PM
Never heard of Mr Mears, but do remember those two back packers.
After their death all hire cars had to carry some form of recovery gear
maybe even Epirbs

micknor51
30th April 2016, 09:14 AM
What a bummer
A cautionary follow up tale to my previous posts suggesting the use of napisan type products.

We had a porta potti in the bus, but that was some time ago now.

This past weekend we ‘christened’ our new portapotti over a few days.
We used the previous method of one spoonful of napisan type product per ‘deposit’.

Today we had a one hour drive to get home, but prior to packing up made a couple of fresh deposits
.
Not remembering how long it took for everything to become liquid & being a tad concerned that the one hour drive home may not be sufficient I decided to throw in a few extra spoonfuls.

Back home approximately 4 hours after the last deposit & just prior to emptying I thought it a good idea to pull out the slide out to inspect the contents just to ensure I wasn’t going to have a blockage problem. (It had all liquified).

BIG MISTAKE! You know what happens when you shake up a can of beer & then open it wit your face over it?

Well what else could my wife do other than cackle & call me Sh*tface!!!

At least it didn’t stink!

MudRunnerTD
30th April 2016, 10:55 AM
A cautionary follow up tale to my previous posts suggesting the use of napisan type products.

We had a porta potti in the bus, but that was some time ago now.

This past weekend we ‘christened’ our new portapotti over a few days.
We used the previous method of one spoonful of napisan type product per ‘deposit’.

Today we had a one hour drive to get home, but prior to packing up made a couple of fresh deposits
.
Not remembering how long it took for everything to become liquid & being a tad concerned that the one hour drive home may not be sufficient I decided to throw in a few extra spoonfuls.

Back home approximately 4 hours after the last deposit & just prior to emptying I thought it a good idea to pull out the slide out to inspect the contents just to ensure I wasn’t going to have a blockage problem. (It had all liquified).

BIG MISTAKE! You know what happens when you shake up a can of beer & then open it wit your face over it?

Well what else could my wife do other than cackle & call me Sh*tface!!!

At least it didn’t stink!

Cuppa got Shitfaced!!! Bhahahaha!!

Mate I would have got the phone out and taken a pic of that before you have time to take a breathe!!

Boinzo
30th April 2016, 02:37 PM
I just picked up one of these. Bog in a Bag. Looks to be a great solution. The compositable bags include polycrylate crystals that absorb any moisture so things dry out and don't get stinky.
Although I'm yet to make a curry and use it in anger! :)

http://boginabag.net.au/

Ronin
30th April 2016, 06:35 PM
I just picked up one of these. Bog in a Bag. Looks to be a great solution. The compositable bags include polycrylate crystals that absorb any moisture so things dry out and don't get stinky.
Although I'm yet to make a curry and use it in anger! :)

http://boginabag.net.au/


definitely interested in hearing ur experience. :)

Cuppa
1st May 2016, 09:20 AM
I just picked up one of these. Bog in a Bag. Looks to be a great solution. The compositable bags include polycrylate crystals that absorb any moisture so things dry out and don't get stinky.
Although I'm yet to make a curry and use it in anger! :)

http://boginabag.net.au/


Might be ok for occasional use, but it looks like the special bags you have to use are 'single use', & they are not exactly cheap. So just for a three week trip for two people you'd be needing to carry a supply of say, 45 bags, at a cost of $72! I note that the bags are compostable (as opposed to biodegradeable which can take up to 2 years to degrade), BUT they say 'can be disposed of in rubbish bins...... you'd have to hope those bins were going to be emptied pretty regularly! Compostable bags can be disposed of by burying, or in long drop toilets, but it is not clear how compostable the polycrylate crystal sheets are.

In the past we used a similar idea, with one of these types of toilet seats (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Wild-Country-Folding-Camp-Toilet-Brand-NEW-Rays-Outdoors-/221950357283?hash=item33ad45af23:g:8DoAAOSwaNBUf5z e) & some compostable bags (http://store.biobagworld.com.au/index.php?route=product/category&path=57). (Maybe worth trying some with the Bog in a bag seat) We found that one of the larger bags easily lasted two of us for up to 5 to 7 days if camped in one spot. (We also had a supply of smaller bags for overnight stops). A small container of lime (very cheap) with the equivalent to a handful sprinkled after each use ensured smell was not an issue. A piece of cardboard (or similar) laid over the top of the seat when not in use kept flies away. We buried ours, but would have had no problem putting them into a long drop. Only issue with bags was transporting them when full. Ok with solids only, but when full of liquid not so easy. We only pee'd in the bags when we were able to bury them without needing to transport them.

We had planned to use this arrangement for long term travel to avoid the need for being tied to camp sites with toilets, or the need to squat. (Old knees). However as it was, as soon as we gained a little extra storage space when we bought the Tvan we changed to a Portapotti. Altogether far more civilised & environmentally sound when the chemicals they sell for them are avoided.

Boinzo
1st May 2016, 09:45 AM
Totally agree Cuppa. The bags are expensive. I'm working on accessing some diy polycrylate so I can just get compostable bags and get the cost down. Mostly we camp where there's toilet access (and we are cool to use them), but I needed a non-squat and shovel solution for my wife for the odd overnight...
It will be interesting to see how this goes.

DX grunt
1st May 2016, 11:01 AM
A cautionary follow up tale to my previous posts suggesting the use of napisan type products.


This past weekend we ‘christened’ our new portapotti over a few days.
We used the previous method of one spoonful of napisan type product per ‘deposit’.

Today we had a one hour drive to get home, but prior to packing up made a couple of fresh deposits
.
Not remembering how long it took for everything to become liquid & being a tad concerned that the one hour drive home may not be sufficient I decided to throw in a few extra spoonfuls.

Back home approximately 4 hours after the last deposit & just prior to emptying I thought it a good idea to pull out the slide out to inspect the contents just to ensure I wasn’t going to have a blockage problem. (It had all liquified).

BIG MISTAKE! You know what happens when you shake up a can of beer & then open it wit your face over it?

Well what else could my wife do other than cackle & call me Sh*tface!!!

At least it didn’t stink!



This exemplary explanation does not deserve my famous saying......."Words not pictures, words not pictures".

I nearly sprayed my lappy with coffee. BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

When I get my camera back, I'll send in a pic or two of my dunny set up.

This 'moment' reminded me the time I was that cold, that when I was putting the dipstick back into the hole, it flexed that much that I arked it on the battery, sparks flew everywhere, and I set fire to the oil on the stick!

I wonder if age has anything to do with these 'Kodak' moments. lol

MudRunnerTD
1st May 2016, 12:07 PM
In the past we used a similar idea, with one of these types of toilet seats (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Wild-Country-Folding-Camp-Toilet-Brand-NEW-Rays-Outdoors-/221950357283?hash=item33ad45af23:g:8DoAAOSwaNBUf5z e) & some compostable bags (http://store.biobagworld.com.au/index.php?route=product/category&path=57). (Maybe worth trying some with the Bog in a bag seat) We found that one of the larger bags easily lasted two of us for up to 5 to 7 days if camped in one spot. (We also had a supply of smaller bags for overnight stops). A small container of lime (very cheap) with the equivalent to a handful sprinkled after each use ensured smell was not an issue. A piece of cardboard (or similar) laid over the top of the seat when not in use kept flies away. We buried ours, but would have had no problem putting them into a long drop. Only issue with bags was transporting them when full. Ok with solids only, but when full of liquid not so easy. We only pee'd in the bags when we were able to bury them without needing to transport them.

We had planned to use this arrangement for long term travel to avoid the need for being tied to camp sites with toilets, or the need to squat. (Old knees). However as it was, as soon as we gained a little extra storage space when we bought the Tvan we changed to a Portapotti. Altogether far more civilised & environmentally sound when the chemicals they sell for them are avoided.



This is the first thing I tried. I have to say it is simply THE WORST thing I have ever tried!!! Better off squatting next to a tree. I can confidently say that these are suitable for Kids and other humans 5'6" or shorter and less than 70kgs. If you are not in this category leave it at home.

The first time I used it the seat cracked. The seating position is so low to the ground that you have no choice but to put all your weight on it. Half way between a seat and a squat. Hideous thing. There is another thread somewhere on the forum where this particular seat was discussed at length.

HIDEOUS!

The thunder box type unit on the first page is hands down a superior design. It fits in my rubbish bag for transport touring or day tripping, set it up over a deep hole in a tent for static camping. Winner.

MudRunnerTD
1st May 2016, 12:13 PM
I just picked up one of these. Bog in a Bag. Looks to be a great solution. The compositable bags include polycrylate crystals that absorb any moisture so things dry out and don't get stinky.
Although I'm yet to make a curry and use it in anger! :)

http://boginabag.net.au/

Is it just me or this design has a big problem???? Ummmm? You bog down the centre of the hole! It's a 3 leg stool joined in the middle? Either the bag sits on top of that knuckle and BLOODY CLOSE to the action or hangs down the side?

Stropp basically made one of these out of a heap 4 legged camp chair for Meetup in the Middle. It worked great BUT IT HAD 4 legs!!

And yeah bags seem bloody expensive!!!!

Rossco
1st May 2016, 12:24 PM
Quote "BoginaBag folds out into a convenient stool" . . Hahaha. . .

Winnie
1st May 2016, 12:27 PM
Quote "BoginaBag folds out into a convenient stool" . . Hahaha. . .
So you can stool while you stool

Clunk
1st May 2016, 01:03 PM
Might be ok for occasional use, but it looks like the special bags you have to use are 'single use', & they are not exactly cheap. So just for a three week trip for two people you'd be needing to carry a supply of say, 45 bags, at a cost of $72! I note that the bags are compostable (as opposed to biodegradeable which can take up to 2 years to degrade), BUT they say 'can be disposed of in rubbish bins...... you'd have to hope those bins were going to be emptied pretty regularly! Compostable bags can be disposed of by burying, or in long drop toilets, but it is not clear how compostable the polycrylate crystal sheets are.

In the past we used a similar idea, with one of these types of toilet seats (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336709507&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2FWild-Country-Folding-Camp-Toilet-Brand-NEW-Rays-Outdoors-%2F221950357283%3Fhash%3Ditem33ad45af23%3Ag%3A8DoA AOSwaNBUf5ze) & some compostable bags (http://store.biobagworld.com.au/index.php?route=product/category&path=57). (Maybe worth trying some with the Bog in a bag seat) We found that one of the larger bags easily lasted two of us for up to 5 to 7 days if camped in one spot. (We also had a supply of smaller bags for overnight stops). A small container of lime (very cheap) with the equivalent to a handful sprinkled after each use ensured smell was not an issue. A piece of cardboard (or similar) laid over the top of the seat when not in use kept flies away. We buried ours, but would have had no problem putting them into a long drop. Only issue with bags was transporting them when full. Ok with solids only, but when full of liquid not so easy. We only pee'd in the bags when we were able to bury them without needing to transport them.

We had planned to use this arrangement for long term travel to avoid the need for being tied to camp sites with toilets, or the need to squat. (Old knees). However as it was, as soon as we gained a little extra storage space when we bought the Tvan we changed to a Portapotti. Altogether far more civilised & environmentally sound when the chemicals they sell for them are avoided.

We used these in our thunder bucket with biodegradable kitty litter
http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/products/Elemental-Thunder-Down-Under-Toilet-Bag.aspx?pid=322164#Recommendations

Might stock up on the ones you posted though..... much much cheaper and not doubt will break down far quicker.

the evil twin
1st May 2016, 01:54 PM
Pffft... just take a dump near the Drivers Door of the nearest Prado.

Try and hit a spot 18 inches out and 12 inches back from the door handle.
This is where the driver will usuall stand to open the door.
Sprinkle a light dusting of sand/soil or scatter a very thin layer of leaf litter over the turd.
Do NOT leave any tell tale bits of dunny paper in the are or that will tip them off.

If there are no Prados' then a Great Wall or Kia are a reasonable substitute
Be aware that if they are more than 12 months old the Drivers Door may have DX disease so you may need to 'land mine' the other doors for best effect

Touses
1st May 2016, 02:10 PM
Pffft... just take a dump near the Drivers Door of the nearest Prado.

Try and hit a spot 18 inches out and 12 inches back from the door handle.
This is where the driver will usuall stand to open the door.
Sprinkle a light dusting of sand/soil or scatter a very thin layer of leaf litter over the turd.
Do NOT leave any tell tale bits of dunny paper in the are or that will tip them off.

If there are no Prados' then a Great Wall or Kia are a reasonable substitute
Be aware that if they are more than 12 months old the Drivers Door may have DX disease so you may need to 'land mine' the other doors for best effect

This, Evil, is why you should never be employed in the Human Resource sector!

Old.Tony
7th May 2016, 07:27 AM
Our caravan has an ensuite, we use the same chemical treatment as we use in our portapotti when tenting it. Napisan or equivalent - Aldi is ok, not perfumed enough though - I add a few drops of eucalytpus oil to both tanks. You MUST smear a little on a non-structural part of the toilet to test that the plastic can handle the presence of the oil first or you could be in for a disastrous surprise. Not so bad if you've got a ute, but if the portapotti is in the back behind your back seat, and you hear waves rushing towards you as you apply the brakes ... grab the door handles and prepare to bail.

I should add that I never add Napisan to the top tank - there's no point. The top tank lasts for days and days - sodium percarbonate breaks down within about 24 hours. May as well just use plain water (or perfumed, as long as the perfume doesn't damage either tank).

I only ever empty in a dump point or septic/composting/long drop toilet (have only used a dump point since starting with the eucalyptus oil, not sure what the oil will do to a septic/composting toilet). I refuse to go "behind a tree" - digging a hole there is either impractical, or I'll just be uncovering someone else's nuggets, of a kind that I doubt will turn the place into the modern-day Hill End.

Quite disgusted by some rest areas - there's one on the Putty Rd (Boggy Swamp, I think it's called) that was littered with stained toilet paper. We stopped at one in Victoria not far from Balranald on the Murray Valley Hwy and couldn't sleep for the stench of human faeces, we had to move on. Long drop/composting toilets are a good attempt to fix this, but places like the rest area on the corner of the Golden and New England highways are proof that it doesn't always work, or at least the toilets are not capable of handling the "load".