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janderson
18th October 2014, 06:42 PM
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Had a look at Ulupna Island. Hoping this map is readable. Carters Beach still open but track is the worst I’ve seen it. There was still 2wd cars camped there.
Carters Beach still open but track is the worst I’ve seen it. There was still 2wd cars camped there.
Photo 1, no access from gate at Red Gum Retreat.
35 51.010'S 145 26.443"E
Photo 2, no access to Long Beach, Breens Beach & Forest Beach.
35 48.930'S 145 29.433'E

Patrol-Guy
18th October 2014, 06:51 PM
I'm guessing this is a place you used to like going too. . . . yeah not good when the road closing people loose their sense of humour and close stuff.

I feel your pain.

AB
18th October 2014, 06:52 PM
I go there every Easter and the road was terrible last Easter, not surprised to see this...

janderson
18th October 2014, 07:04 PM
I'm guessing this is a place you used to like going too. . . . yeah not good when the road closing people loose their sense of humour and close stuff.

I feel your pain.

My back yard

janderson
18th October 2014, 07:06 PM
I go there every Easter and the road was terrible last Easter, not surprised to see this...

Tracks not that bad, only city people complain when its to hard for there 2wd's

Bob
18th October 2014, 07:12 PM
I hope that is only temporary as that is God's Country and my favourite place to Camp on the Murray.
My Signature Photo was taken there

AB
18th October 2014, 07:30 PM
Tracks not that bad, only city people complain when its to hard for there 2wd's

I actually liked it, it stops the riff raff coming in to my favourite spot...lol

janderson
18th October 2014, 07:34 PM
I hope that is only temporary as that is God's Country and my favourite place to Camp on the Murray.
My Signature Photo was taken there

At the moment we are being told indefinitely due to no funds, I’d like to know where the funds went then as they never maintain the tracks anyway. Must have a good xmas party each year.

janderson
18th October 2014, 07:35 PM
I actually liked it, it stops the riff raff coming in to my favourite spot...lol

spot on there

NP99
18th October 2014, 10:25 PM
I was there about 10 years ago and grubs left piles of human waste and toilet paper all over the place......

Bob
19th October 2014, 05:44 PM
Will be sending a few emails tomorrow to Parks Vic,Shire of Strathmerton and Vic Govt.
Stirring the Possum

AB
19th October 2014, 05:49 PM
I was there about 10 years ago and grubs left piles of human waste and toilet paper all over the place......

I've seen a lot feral things in that area too.

At least strathmerton put out a dozen skips in town though, that's a huge winner to stop people dumping.

We have a laugh every year as some of the skips are full of broken tents, chairs and cheap crap that broke on their holiday.

threedogs
19th October 2014, 06:08 PM
@ Bob it that where we went with Roofy that time??

NissanGQ4.2
19th October 2014, 06:28 PM
That's something we are accustomed 2 here in Sydney / Lower Blue Mountains.

I actually went for a walk down 2 our local river that I use 2 enjoy driving in but has been gated off for at least 10 years now only 2 find boulders placed at the rivers edge 2 stop 4wd's crossing the river. It was obvious 4wd's have still been accessing the entrance 2 the river though various access points

Main Access gated off

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Local Park on the side of the main entrance has bollards around it 2 stop access

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The boulder placement!

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Just a few randoms of the river
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janderson
19th October 2014, 07:33 PM
Will be sending a few emails tomorrow to Parks Vic,Shire of Strathmerton and Vic Govt.
Stirring the Possum

Came across this, Wonder if it would apply. See highlighted part.

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Bob
19th October 2014, 07:43 PM
@ Bob it that where we went with Roofy that time??

That was Carters Beach which is still open .

What is closed is to the right (Upstream) only a very short distance away

BillsGU
19th October 2014, 10:56 PM
Send an email to Unlock Australia and see what they think. You may even try 4WD VIC?

threedogs
20th October 2014, 08:58 AM
could also email [email]Simon@4wdtv.com.au[/email

seems a shame as it looked like a very popular spot especially for 2wd.
Maybe a few have ruined it for the majority again

BillsGU
20th October 2014, 01:28 PM
The VIC side of the Murray used to be very open to camping - but they are slowly closing it piece by piece. The NSW side does not have a lot of good spots left. When I travel along the river during holiday periods there seem to be more NSW number plates than VIC plates on the southern side of the border. I have already heard moaning about the fact that the spots that are left are being "worn out" by the large number of campers. No wonder when area after area is being closed and campers are herded into the fewer areas that are left. Soon we will be paying to camp there. That will reduce the numbers.

janderson
21st October 2014, 08:58 PM
May be of use. Ther is a lot on FB about this.
IT'S TIME TO TAKE ACTION. WE NEED TO MAKE SOME NOISE AND FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT TO ACCESS OUR BEAUTIFUL ULUPNA ISLAND!!! Please phone or email the following;
Daniel McLaughlin, Victoria District Chief Ranger
ph: 0407529723
Ryan Smith, State Member for Environment & Climate Change
ph: (03) 98707396
Parks Victoria
ph: 131963
email: info@parks.vic.gov.au
Moira Shire Council
ph: (03) 58719222
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janderson
23rd October 2014, 09:20 PM
http://www.mmg.com.au/local-news/cobram/road-barrier-to-strathmerton-trade-1.82410

mudnut
23rd October 2014, 11:10 PM
Hopefully the locals can get the Island re-opened.

BillsGU
23rd October 2014, 11:25 PM
Problem is the locals are only one small voice - and the powers that be don't listen or care about them.

AB
4th March 2015, 08:25 PM
Completely forgot that this has been closed down until Bob just reminded me today after my post.

im assuming its still closed off, does anyone know?

janderson
4th March 2015, 10:37 PM
Access to Breen's Beach and Forest Beach (located on Ulupna Island upstream of the park in River Murray Reserve) is closed due to roadworks. All other parts of Ulupna Island is open.

AB
5th March 2015, 07:01 AM
Access to Breen's Beach and Forest Beach (located on Ulupna Island upstream of the park in River Murray Reserve) is closed due to roadworks. All other parts of Ulupna Island is open.

So they've closed that main gate then just after the last house where that old pump is by the looks of it :( that's our spot!

janderson
5th March 2015, 04:28 PM
Long Beach should be open. 55817

AB
5th March 2015, 06:53 PM
I'm driving up for a checkout this weekend and will find out what exactly is gated off.

mickn
9th March 2015, 10:06 PM
let us all know if you get up there AB. i'm looking for somewhere to go the weekend after next and i'd love to get back there.

mickn

AB
10th March 2015, 07:13 AM
let us all know if you get up there AB. i'm looking for somewhere to go the weekend after next and i'd love to get back there.

mickn

It's all open mate and roads have been graded.

Bob
10th March 2015, 07:31 AM
It's all open mate and roads have been graded.

Thats great Andy. Might have to get back up there when the silly Holiday Season is over.

AB
10th March 2015, 06:21 PM
Thats great Andy. Might have to get back up there when the silly Holiday Season is over.

It was sensational mate!!!

There was a huge uproar by the strath community when they shut it down.

I saw the big concrete block moved aside at the last gate and the roads were in good nick.

Bob
10th March 2015, 06:25 PM
It was sensational mate!!!

There was a huge uproar by the strath community when they shut it down.

I saw the big concrete block moved aside at the last gate and the roads were in good nick.

That looks like Wide Beach

AB
10th March 2015, 06:27 PM
That looks like Wide Beach

Is that the name of the spot where you met me that time?

Bob
10th March 2015, 07:08 PM
Is that the name of the spot where you met me that time?

Yes thats it

AB
10th March 2015, 07:24 PM
Yes thats it

Not long beach? Or is long beach the one before roughly where you were?

mickn
10th March 2015, 08:51 PM
Legend. i'll be up there weekend after next then. thanks AB

Bob
11th March 2015, 11:09 AM
Not long beach? Or is long beach the one before roughly where you were?

This is a Map showing Wide Beach. To the right is Long Beach and further along is where you camped on that weekend

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-35.8117814,145.4801595,657m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

Bob
11th March 2015, 11:43 AM
let us all know if you get up there AB. i'm looking for somewhere to go the weekend after next and i'd love to get back there.

mickn

You will really enjoy it up there as there are some great spots to camp at the various beaches.

Have a great time

AB
11th March 2015, 07:43 PM
You will really enjoy it up there as there are some great spots to camp at the various beaches.

Have a great time

Unfortunately they are only throwing rock in the ruts so its an ongoing maintenance for access each season but the amount of business this brings to the community is in the thousands so fingers crossed its kept up.

Pretty disappointing though, it must've been only open for a few days as it was confirmed still shut 3 days before we checked it out.

That spot we go to had a recently used fire pit in the sand full of broken beer bottles, can and rubbish :(

If anyone heads in there, please clean up after yourselves ofcourse but if you see rubbish please try and help clean it.

I can't stand seeing that crap and its a magical spot only 3 hours from Melbourne :)