Brunswick in a 99 Patrol

[Barfly]

Hi guys.
I've got a 99 Patrol with a seized 2.8 in it.
I've been offered a 94 ST ute with a 6.5 (I think) Brunswick in it for $4,000. All the running gear is good, body is throw away.
Can I swap all the running gear and motor straight into the 99 ?
1: Straight swap
2: Yes, with a bit of work
3: Too hard basket

Cheers Max.

[macca86]

2 is your answer as it will be different engine mounts etc heaps of man hrs but a very good price for the donor car so will be worth it.

[MudRunnerTD]

Yep
What Macca said. I think it would be fairly straight forward though as the donor would come with the engine mounts to be cut and welded. That's a $20k conversion anywhere. Bargain.

[nissannewby]

Yep
What Macca said. I think it would be fairly straight forward though as the donor would come with the engine mounts to be cut and welded. That's a $20k conversion anywhere. Bargain.

And the rest lol. Brunswick do well to charge so much for a boat anchor conversion :p lol

[Barfly]

Would I be able to buy the adaptors from maybe Marks adaptors?

[MudRunnerTD]

Would I be able to buy the adaptors from maybe Marks adaptors?

Adaptor for what?? You are buying a complete donor car with the full conversion yeah? You have everything. Engine, gearbox, the lot.

Please head over to the ntroduction section please bud and say Gday.

[Barfly]

Adaptor for what??

Engine mounts etc.

Cheers Max.

[MudRunnerTD]

Nah generally the adapter plate that Marks will sell is to adapt the engine to the gear box, you have that already. The engine mounts should be ale to be cut out of the donor car and fitted to the new car. The chassis rails should be the same so it should be pretty straight forward.

[krbrooking]

Could you not just take out the whole cross member from the donor and drop it in or would that be different as well. Sent from me using Forum Runner

[Barfly]

I got a nice surprise yesterday. Hooked up the trailer and did a 600 K trip to pick up the donor car. Its in pretty good shape, nothing like what I expected.
It was sitting in a big farm shed covered in crap. The guy didn't think it would start because it had been sitting there for a very long time but he threw in a battery and it started straight up and sounded sweet. The ute was only ever used to tow a boom sprayer around the farm so it has very low k's on it.
He did say he thought it could do with an electric fuel pump if it was to be used for towing heavy things.
Will post some pics when the sun comes up.

Cheers Max.

[MudRunnerTD]

Thanks Max,

Head over to the introduction section mate and post an intro thread please. We like folks to say g'day.

Nice score mate.

[Barfly]

Heres the two cars.
$1,500 for the wagon and $4,000 for the brunswick ute.

Cheers Max.

47574475734757247571

[Barfly]

Will I need to swap gearbox's or will the brunswick have the adaptor on it ? (Gear box is still in the wagon)

Cheers Max.

[Barfly]

Hang on: I'll rephrase that.
Can I use the box that's in the wagon and pull out the engine with adaptor from the ute and slot it in?

Cheers Max.

[Barfly]

I like seeing pics so I'll keep adding some of mine.
We pulled the wagon in and started taking out the gearbox, but now I'm not sure if we have to so we pulled the ute in and where taking the motor out.
So here where the actions taking place in my shed.
I got a fair bit done but ended up at the fridge end.
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[Barfly]

She's out.
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[Barfly]

Well everything just came to a screaming holt. I was just informed by the Brunswick people that you cannot put an engine in a car that is older than the car.
It wont pass licensing.
Very sad:oops:

[Stropp]

bugger mate thats no good, time to find a good gq body???

[Barfly]

Anyone know what a 6.5 is worth, not sure of the year but it was installed by Brunswick in 2002 and the farmer I got it off reckons it would have less than 100k on it.

Edit: It comes with bell housing Marks adaptor for 4.2 GQ which also fits GU

Cheers Max.

[MudRunnerTD]

Bugger!! What state is that?

What year is the engine? I though it only had the meet the ADR regs for pollution for the year of the car it was going in. That's why you can't fit a TD42 into a GU beyond 2006 as the engine would not pass the ADRs for after that (which is why Nissan stopped importing them)

Also there is plenty of guys fitting Silvertop TD42s into GUs. The Silvertop was only produced until 1994 I think?

[the evil twin]

Well everything just came to a screaming holt. I was just informed by the Brunswick people that you cannot put an engine in a car that is older than the car.
It wont pass licensing.
Very sad:oops:

I must be missing something here?

You want to put a 6.5 chevy out of an '04 Ute in a '99 wagon yeah?
If it was OK in the '04 how can it not be OK in the '99

AFAIK you can put the 6.5's (turbo or non-turbo) in any Patrol up to early '06.
There are 100's of them out there, all mod plated and legal (my Ute with a 6.5 chevy is a '99 as a point of interest)

[93patrol]

It was a 94 ute into a 99 gu. The motor might have been built in 94 or 95 but it's illegal to put it in a 99 model vehicle. Which is BS because very little changed with these motors over those years

[the evil twin]

It was a 94 ute into a 99 gu. The motor might have been built in 94 or 95 but it's illegal to put it in a 99 model vehicle. Which is BS because very little changed with these motors over those years

My bad... told ya I was missing something :1087:

[93patrol]

Yeah you are ET. A bloody big stubbie in your right hand mate. ;)

[nissannewby]

It was a 94 ute into a 99 gu. The motor might have been built in 94 or 95 but it's illegal to put it in a 99 model vehicle. Which is BS because very little changed with these motors over those years

Im with et. It doesnt add up. The 6.5 was replaced by the duramax in 2001 but the 6.5 can be fitted in patrols built far later than that. GM still make the 6.5 for military H1 hummers but nissan also still make td42's and sell them in markets not regulated by emissions.

[Barfly]

I rang licensing today and the lady spoke to the tech team with me on hold. She came back and said I should submit the modification form from there web site and the tech team told her they think I have been given the wrong info. She also gave me a link to all the engineers they have approved. I rang one of them and he said he thinks the information is incorrect and only for later model petrol cars. But he also said it would be wise to submit the modification form.

Cheers Max.

[93patrol]

I can't honestly say mate maybe Brunswick just want to take more coin of the op. The thing I can think of is talking to an engineer that not associated with them and talk to them

[nissannewby]

I can't honestly say mate maybe Brunswick just want to take more coin of the op.

This is what I reckon its how they make their money.