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apalsson
1st April 2014, 07:41 AM
G'day,

This may have been covered elsewhere already but I have been looking at the recovery points from Roadrunner Offroad
http://www.roadrunneroffroad.com.au/Recovery-Point-GU-Patrol-series-3-on-80-100-105-Landcruiser-D40-Navara.html

I have an ARB Deluxe Winch bar on my GU and was wondering if these points will clear the bar where it attaches to the stock tie down points on the chassis

I have had very good experience with Roadrunner Offroad so if this will fit, I plan on getting a set from them. (don't trust the stock hook for snatch recoveries)

Hodge
1st April 2014, 07:58 AM
Mate contact three dogs. He makes outback ideas points. Just fitted mine up few days ago.


Outback Ideas recovery points, finally fitted!
<img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42588"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42589"/>

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apalsson
1st April 2014, 08:08 AM
Thanks mate, hopefully 3D will chime in

threedogs
1st April 2014, 08:24 AM
I've sent you a PM,

apalsson
1st April 2014, 03:04 PM
I've sent you a PM,

Mate, thanks for all the help

Bloodyaussie
1st April 2014, 03:23 PM
Thanks mate, hopefully 3D will chime in

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...... aaggh ha ha ha ha.... hold on... sorry about that!!!!!

Ok now I got that out the way... John will have you sorted mate.. and yes that loop is ok for a light tug but nothing serious thats for sure.

apalsson
1st April 2014, 03:38 PM
Ok now I got that out the way... John will have you sorted mate.. and yes that loop is ok for a light tug but nothing serious thats for sure.

Mate, you wouldn't want to give a Patrol anymore than a light tug anyway ! :)

apalsson
7th April 2014, 04:08 AM
I have received the recovery points and was going to bolt them in today. The bolts on the old stock hook are so *&^&*% stuck, I haven't been able to crack them. I wonder if I need air tools to get them un-done.
Does anyone know what size I need to buy for the second point? (if I ever get the first one off the car)

krbrooking
7th April 2014, 04:40 AM
Try some crc or if that fails try coke ( the drinkable stuff)

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threedogs
7th April 2014, 05:58 AM
belt the head of the bolt with a hammer to shock it,
PM sent on bolt sizes

Hodge
7th April 2014, 08:41 AM
Soak in CRC and walk away mate if you haven't already. Soaking is important, I see people so many times spray it and instantly try and have a go at the bolt. Let CRC to it's magic for a bit and then let it rip... Mine were tight as well as I done just that spray from above and below and concentrated on something else for 20 minutes, and when I came back they undone right off.

apalsson
7th April 2014, 11:53 AM
I had a better way - went and saw a mate who has a rattle spanner
Made easy work of those bolts :)

Hodge
7th April 2014, 11:54 AM
I had a better way - went and saw a mate who has a rattle spanner
Made easy work of those bolts :)

Or that. haha Good stuff.

the evil twin
7th April 2014, 03:19 PM
I had a better way - went and saw a mate who has a rattle spanner
Made easy work of those bolts :)

Just a suggestion but I recommend getting a 12 Volt Impact Wrench off Ebay.
They cost about $50 and I have used mine for everything from wheel nuts to rebuilding diffs.

Only thing is the wheel nut sockets they come with are rubbish but a few extra bucks at a Tool shop or Coventry's for a 21mm Impact Socket and it's game on.

Link is for illustration only... I don't know this seller so cannot recommend them one way or the other

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-12v-Electric-1-2-Vehicle-Impact-Wrench-Car-ATV-Trailer-Tool-Sockets-100W-/321326972189?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ad0947d1d

threedogs
7th April 2014, 03:38 PM
X2 with Evil I have used the same 12v impact tool ever since they came on the market, I brought mine from Kangaroo Creek imports for $98.
The best part is they are fully re-buildable if something fails as in the switch in my case, just upgrade sockets as suggested

MudRunnerTD
7th April 2014, 05:06 PM
Just a suggestion but I recommend getting a 12 Volt Impact Wrench off Ebay.
They cost about $50 and I have used mine for everything from wheel nuts to rebuilding diffs.

Only thing is the wheel nut sockets they come with are rubbish but a few extra bucks at a Tool shop or Coventry's for a 21mm Impact Socket and it's game on.

Link is for illustration only... I don't know this seller so cannot recommend them one way or the other

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-12v-Electric-1-2-Vehicle-Impact-Wrench-Car-ATV-Trailer-Tool-Sockets-100W-/321326972189?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ad0947d1d


X2 with Evil I have used the same 12v impact tool ever since they came on the market, I brought mine from Kangaroo Creek imports for $98.
The best part is they are fully re-buildable if something fails as in the switch in my case, just upgrade sockets as suggested

X3 Best bit of kit I own! Looks like Junk but is un-matched IMO. when its time to give up is when i pull that sucker out!! makes light work of most things.

00marshall
11th July 2015, 11:31 PM
and yes that loop is ok for a light tug but nothing serious thats for sure.

I'm new so excuse the daft question - are you saying the stock recovery points front and rear are not rated for recovery if I get bogged? I've got a 2012 ST Patrol 3.0Ltr and looking at 'essential' upgrades -is this one? Don't want to spend the $$ if I don't have to as am eyeing other mods.

4bye4
11th July 2015, 11:39 PM
The factory ones arn't very strong mate. I have just fitted Threedogs (outback ideas) rear and another "rated" (sorry TD) brand to the front. Just have a look at the difference and you will see why. TD's rated rear is fully welded and twice as thick as the spot weld thing that comes on the standard patrol. Front also welded plate not just a hook. Spend the $'s and get them upgraded IMHO.

my third 256
12th July 2015, 08:31 AM
Just a suggestion but I recommend getting a 12 Volt Impact Wrench off Ebay.
They cost about $50 and I have used mine for everything from wheel nuts to rebuilding diffs.

Only thing is the wheel nut sockets they come with are rubbish but a few extra bucks at a Tool shop or Coventry's for a 21mm Impact Socket and it's game on.

Link is for illustration only... I don't know this seller so cannot recommend them one way or the other

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-12v-Electric-1-2-Vehicle-Impact-Wrench-Car-ATV-Trailer-Tool-Sockets-100W-/321326972189?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ad0947d1d
have to use an extension on mine as the socket isnt long enough for the front mag wheel the locking hub is in the way

threedogs
12th July 2015, 09:33 AM
have to use an extension on mine as the socket isnt long enough for the front mag wheel the locking hub is in the way

I used an old 4" extension, works a treat.
@ MR they are fully rebuildable and not that many ppl know that.

Bigcol
12th July 2015, 10:08 AM
and yes that loop is ok for a light tug but nothing serious thats for sure.


I'm new so excuse the daft question - are you saying the stock recovery points front and rear are not rated for recovery if I get bogged? I've got a 2012 ST Patrol 3.0Ltr and looking at 'essential' upgrades -is this one? Don't want to spend the $$ if I don't have to as am eyeing other mods.


The factory ones arn't very strong mate. I have just fitted Threedogs (outback ideas) rear and another "rated" (sorry TD) brand to the front. Just have a look at the difference and you will see why. TD's rated rear is fully welded and twice as thick as the spot weld thing that comes on the standard patrol. Front also welded plate not just a hook. Spend the $'s and get them upgraded IMHO.

the "Stock recovery points" on a Patrol are only "tie down" points
only good for pulling down to tie it down to truck or ship for transportation- not pulling forward as in snatch or winch..............

the "loop" on the rear bar can be used, but not really recommended, as 4bye4 said, they are only spot welded, and not very strong
(how do I know this? - I pulled the crappy thing off a patrol trying to pull a tree stump out of the ground, lucky no-one was behind me at the time.........)

like most things, they are an "expensive" thing to buy, but more than pay for themselves if you ever need it

nothing worse than going off track with someone, then breaking those "stock" points off trying to recover them
you feel like crap, and so does the guy trying to help you

(been there, done that.......................)