52inch LED bar. $29 + Delivery

[meh]

Was told about these today so put my order in and thought i'd share with you all

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/131140365732?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[lucus30]

I'm guessing these are rubbish. Any one know any more ?

[Dhuck]

onya mate. My order was put in too.

[Dhuck]

I'm guessing these are rubbish. Any one know any more ?

Who cares. Look at the price. Just keep the light high and not at water level. lol

[lucus30]

Who cares. Look at the price. Just keep the light high and not at water level. lol

Yeah I agree I've ordered one too

[BigRAWesty]

So will be interesting to see how this goes..
Possible typo.. Scam?? Hack?? Or ordimental...

[meh]

Looking at his items might be a price mistake. But he listed for that so waiting to see if/when it shows up

[lucus30]

So will be interesting to see how this goes..
Possible typo.. Scam?? Hack?? Or ordimental...

I agree but will wait to see

[mudski]

Looking at his items might be a price mistake. But he listed for that so waiting to see if/when it shows up

Yup just bought three...

[megatexture]

Purchase made lol ... I've got a mate who saw some 40" duals 3w bars selling for 24$ free postage and he bought 2 and with in an hr the add was removed and posted again with 240$ free postage and the bars were delivered the following week
He thinks only 7 bars were sold though, this add said 30 were sold in the last hr lmao

[AB]

That's got to be a huge typo I think.

I can't see chinas cost price for labour of that being much cheaper than the retail.

I know what everyone says cheap china labour etc but not at that price, no way.

I doubt this is a scam either. He is all over the web, has feedback and us selling on multiple avenues on the web and has people talking about his products everywhere.

Surely a typo???

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pLrhGRRQVOs

[MudRunnerTD]

All over that!!!!

[Family4x4]

Mines in will be interesting, I think typo.

[mudski]

That's got to be a huge typo I think.

I can't see chinas cost price for labour of that being much cheaper than the retail.

I know what everyone says cheap china labour etc but not at that price, no way.

I doubt this is a scam either. He is all over the web, has feedback and us selling on multiple avenues on the web and has people talking about his products everywhere.

Surely a typo???

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pLrhGRRQVOs

Defo a typo. I know what these cost from China and even if they were supposed to be $229 they would be shooting themselves in the foot. We'll see what happens. If they come I will mount all three with my 40 inch bar just coz I can.

[Bloodyaussie]

Ordered 2 but have not payed... think he is a legit seller but scams by having ridiculously cheap items that never get delivered and he uses that money as capital to buy more from china??

Has a shit tonne of negative feedback.

[Family4x4]

Was told about these today so put my order in and thought i'd share with you all

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/131140365732?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I really don't understand, the ad now says listing updated by seller but price has gone down to $22.99+delivery??????????

[meh]

I really don't understand, the ad now says listing updated by seller but price has gone down to $22.99+delivery??????????

That's my bad!! Haha typo. $23 was the price I payed and it's been listed at that all day

[mudski]

Ordered 2 but have not payed... think he is a legit seller but scams by having ridiculously cheap items that never get delivered and he uses that money as capital to buy more from china??

Has a shit tonne of negative feedback.

Pay with PayPal and your safe. They don't deliver, lodge a claim and paypal will do the rest.

[Mud Gecko]

Down to $19.99 and 118 sold? I smell a rat....

[lucus30]

Pay with PayPal and your safe. They don't deliver, lodge a claim and paypal will do the rest.

Yup and link your credit card to PayPal because you can always do a chargeback worst case scenario

[MudRunnerTD]

Ordered 2 but have not payed... think he is a legit seller but scams by having ridiculously cheap items that never get delivered and he uses that money as capital to buy more from china??

Has a shit tonne of negative feedback.

PayPal protected mate. I will get the product or my money back ;)

[MudRunnerTD]

Down to $19.99 and 118 sold? I smell a rat....

No not right. Still the same price.

You can see the seller changes. He is continuously updating the quantities available. He really should check his listing ;)

[megatexture]

Down to $19.99 and 118 sold? I smell a rat....

Price has not changed.. 19 is postage

[MudRunnerTD]

Bugger of a size!! Bloody thing is huge!!

In the fine print near the top of the add its listed as a 42.5" bar. The in the pics he shows a 52" bar. I'd prefer to receive a 42" bar though.

See what happened!!

[megatexture]

Bloody cheap reverse light lmao

[MudRunnerTD]

Bloody cheap reverse light lmao

Hahahaha!! Was thinking the exact same thing!!

[Winnie]

Just ordered one as a reverse light

[megatexture]

Wrap them around all sides of the roof rack and you have rock lights also lol

[oncedisturbed]

22.99 and 19.99 postage, just ordered 1 myself with paypal

[Clunk]

Yep just ordered one as well, paid via paypal......... thought bugger it, why the feck not.

[TPC]

I have ordered one but doubt I will ever see it, if I don't will lodge claim to get money back.

[Maxhead]

The guy has sold 168 of these in the last 24 hours...LOL

We'll see how it goes but not getting my hopes up.

[Hodge]

Three might be some sour disappointments coming up in this thread. lol

[threedogs]

The look on his face when he sees he has sold 170 light bars priceless
The look on his face when he sees he has sold 170 light bars for $29 ,,,,,,,,GOLD rlmfao

[AB]

The guy has sold 168 of these in the last 24 hours...LOL

We'll see how it goes but not getting my hopes up.

He's going to wake up today log into eBay and say "holy crap!!!!"

[Winnie]

Three might be some sour disappointments coming up in this thread. lol

Nah I won't be disappointed, I'm pretty doubtful but it's through PayPal so all will get their money back.

[threedogs]

they pull 25 amps, he sells them for $229 I think.
Would look awesome if you had one bolted to every side of your roof rack.
Instant daytime, This style has been around a while now so maybe the next GEN of LED bars
is just around the corner

[GU CAMPER]

Just ordered a few for myself and some mates.
Hopefully he still sends them once he realises he made a typo
If not well, that's where paypal is good. As will get money back

Now to wait and see if they turn up

[wildgu6]

Either one dumb @$?( or junk, but ordered one anyway, fingers crossed he's a dumb @$?(.
Thank god for PayPal. Cheers for the heads up meh


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[macca86]

Just ordered 2 $86 delivered hope to have one forward bad one backward be nice to roll up on the rabbit warrens on the farm get out quiet then flame on and clean a paddock up

[LachDiggityDog]

I tried to order one but for some reason PayPal won't put the order through.

[megatexture]

Have you verified your credit card they bill you 2$ to verify it if I remember correctly

[LachDiggityDog]

Just checked on PayPal the order is pending until the 19th for some reason.. Well we will see what happens.

[macca86]

Maybe there wasn't many left he was 97% sold when I bought them

[threedogs]

It uses the Epistar LED not a Cree LED so quality is down, but even at $229 its ok

[wildgu6]

261 sold and only 10 available, who's gunna be the lucky 10 hahaha

Same light bar same seller going for $242.99 & free postage.



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[Winnie]

261 sold and only 10 available, who's gunna be the lucky 10 hahaha

Same light bar same seller going for $242.99 & free postage.



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It said 9 available when I bought mine last night

[threedogs]

After up dating,, its like Winnie said 10 available, 30 sold in the last hour.
This would be funnier if it was the Easter long weekend lol

[megatexture]

It uses the Epistar LED not a Cree LED so quality is down, but even at $229 its ok

I wouldn't pay full price for it but for the price of a work light retail this is a steel! Cree or not lol

[megatexture]

Is 60,600 lumen plus 2x240 lightforce converted with 100w hids overkill? Lol

[macca86]

Perfect for the zombie apocalypse

[Patrol-Guy]

Gotta be ready for the Zombie apocalypse.....

I got 2.

[AB]

Have you verified your credit card they bill you 2$ to verify it if I remember correctly

I thought I would join the hype and get one too but I couldn't pay for it and needed to verify my card as above.

[threedogs]

does that mean we have crashed the system lol

[TPC]

I wonder if his feedback score will take a beating in the aftermath of this.

[threedogs]

this could put him out of business well on ebay anyway,
He's already given me feed back but I think its all automatic

[MEGOMONSTER]

Is 60,600 lumen plus 2x240 lightforce converted with 100w hids overkill? Lol

Not in my eyes.
Should just be enough to light up the dark side of the earth.

[megatexture]

I thought I would join the hype and get one too but I couldn't pay for it and needed to verify my card as above.
It should only take a few mins if you have online access to your credit card statement.. Paypal bills you 2$ and you fill in the description /name of the 2$ fee on paypal to verify you have access to that card if not you will have to wait for a statement to be posted to you then fill it in, you can buy one and just not pay it straight away. Join the hype!

[MEGOMONSTER]

Why not see what happens. Lol

[Winnie]

So I just went and measured my roof rack and I'm not sure if this will fit... Lol!

[MudRunnerTD]

Not in my eyes.
Should just be enough to light up the dark side of the earth.

Mego, you should grab one of these and swap out your 4 roof lights

[MudRunnerTD]

So I just went and measured my roof rack and I'm not sure if this will fit... Lol!

It certainly won't fit!!! 52" is a Massive light bar. The light bar on my GQ is 42" and perfect for my light rack..

I will try and hang it under the front of the roof rack between the rack and the roof see how it fits there??

[Winnie]

Mego, you should grab one of these and swap out your 4 roof lights

Get two and stack them on top of each other. Bahaha! Does anybody have this size? I hope it fits my rack.

[oncedisturbed]

I think it will be too big for my rack but will look at modding the brackets if I have to

[P4trol]

Who cares cares it fits! Undersling it at the back of your trailer for reversing!

Bought one and got feedback "thanks for taking advantage of me you thieving bastard"

Just kidding about the feedback. But there has to be some catch?

[MudRunnerTD]

Who cares cares it fits! Undersling it at the back of your trailer for reversing!

Bought one and got feedback "thanks for taking advantage of me you thieving bastard"

Just kidding about the feedback. But there has to be some catch?


LMFAO I was heading over to eBay to check my feedback!!!! Funny....

[MEGOMONSTER]

Mego, you should grab one of these and swap out your 4 roof lights

Ahem, I have 5 lights on my rack thank you very much.

[MEGOMONSTER]

Get two and stack them on top of each other. Bahaha! Does anybody have this size? I hope it fits my rack.

I did get two, just in case one wasn't enough light.

[MEGOMONSTER]

I did get two, just in case one wasn't enough light.

I thought LED's are more power efficient, if I put both lights up, I'll be using 100watt more.
So where can I put the third battery. Lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Ahem, I have 5 lights on my rack thank you very much.

.......... What was I thinking!!! :p

[rottodiver]

I just ordered mine.... See what happens..... Might make a telescopic bracket and put it on my camper trailer.. Already have a 42 inch on my bullbar..
Scotty

[threedogs]

Use them as rock lights or a toaster which ever suits your needs lol

[rottodiver]

Use them as rock lights or a toaster which ever suits your needs lol

I put my 42 inch on the front of roof rack initially and having a white troll found it almost un usable because of the glare off the bonnet .. How does yours go?

Scott

[Patrol-Guy]

Who actually thinks we are going to get what we paid for? I don't. I think either one of 2 things will happen. Either he will send the item he actually meant to sell for $22.99 or he will offer refunds because of incorrect listing.

[mudski]

It uses the Epistar LED not a Cree LED so quality is down, but even at $229 its ok

John. my 40inch bar is the exact same one as this. Only paid around $200 for mine and its effing bright I tell ya. I don't really care if its cheap rubbish, as it doesn't/ won't hurt as much if I break it or it gets nicked. I would seriously cry hard if I forked out over 700-800 hunge on a branded light bar and I got nicked or I broke it on a tree branch. My guess's are, a big guess, its either a typo ( more than likely), they're hot and he's trying off load them quick (stupid way to do it) or, as they are old tech, quite old, he's just trying to move them out for new stock...
Dunno, don't care. If I get them, great. If I don't I will simply get the refund and move on.

[mudski]

I just ordered mine.... See what happens..... Might make a telescopic bracket and put it on my camper trailer.. Already have a 42 inch on my bullbar..
Scotty

Hey thats an idea. Might steal that if they turn up.

[rottodiver]

I just bought a second one.... Worth the gamble... If they come I can sell it on gum tree cheap but enough to get my first one free....

Scotty

[threedogs]

I put my 42 inch on the front of roof rack initially and having a white troll found it almost un usable because of the glare off the bonnet .. How does yours go?

Scott
Mine is fine just had to spray the antenna's matt black
I used to have it mounted on a single Rhino aero bar but still heaps of glare from antenna
Might need two matt black panels on your bonnet?

[Maxhead]

The seller is well aware how many he is selling as he keeps updating quantity. Has updated around 30 times today, last update was 4:54pm...unless this is an automatic thingy for sellers...

[oncedisturbed]

The seller is well aware how many he is selling as he keeps updating quantity. Has updated around 30 times today, last update was 4:54pm...unless this is an automatic thingy for sellers...

Agreed, just bought a 2nd unit. He has already left positive feedback as well

[threedogs]

Has to be an automated system as feedback was given instantly as well.
the look on this guys face is going to be GOLD
might cost someone their job

[Winnie]

My mate bought three... One for the front of his patrol, one for the back and one for his falcon ute.


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[threedogs]

From what I gather he's selling around 30 an hour

[AB]

I don't even know why I bought one. I have a smaller one on the front which is perfect and a big led round flood on rear, more than ample.

After reading the comments here the logical thing so far is to strap it to the balcony for the zombie apocalypse or even worse a chronic mutation world epidemic and effect from a cure like will smith in "I am Legend"...lol

[threedogs]

I don't even know why I bought one. I have a smaller one on the front which is perfect and a big led round flood on rear, more than ample.

After reading the comments here the logical thing so far is to strap it to the balcony for the zombie apocalypse or even worse a chronic mutation world epidemic and effect from a cure like will smith in "I am Legend"...lol
use it under your awning lol

[AB]

It should only take a few mins if you have online access to your credit card statement.. Paypal bills you 2$ and you fill in the description /name of the 2$ fee on paypal to verify you have access to that card if not you will have to wait for a statement to be posted to you then fill it in, you can buy one and just not pay it straight away. Join the hype!

Hey mate nah I just logged in to Bendigo bank and not there. It said it could take 2 or 3 business days.

I remember doing this years ago and it took a few days to show up.

[Alitis007]

Got one this morning lol as far as i'm aware the paypal payment is an Echeque so up to 3 days to process isn't it ???

[Winnie]

Hey mate nah I just logged in to Bendigo bank and not there. It said it could take 2 or 3 business days.

I remember doing this years ago and it took a few days to show up.

Yeah I did it years ago and it took a couple of days. Just buy it now and pay in a few days.


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[Mac53]

I also brought 3

[meh]

Should be a busy Monday morning for aus post :Yahoo!:

[threedogs]

check your ebay details I think he's on to it
OMG 405 sold

[MudRunnerTD]

Yep listing has ended

[megatexture]

Hey mate nah I just logged in to Bendigo bank and not there. It said it could take 2 or 3 business days.

I remember doing this years ago and it took a few days to show up.

Bugger mate maybe someone local can buy one for you if setting up paypal takes too long ? I would but no point posting it twice though if I had a roof top bag on my rack I could have driven it down to you ! But I don't... Lmao

[MudRunnerTD]

Damn it should have bought 2. No idea why???? Just shoulda!

[Winnie]

Damn it should have bought 2. No idea why???? Just shoulda!

I'm thinking the same lol

[AB]

Bugger mate maybe someone local can buy one for you if setting up paypal takes too long ? I would but no point posting it twice though if I had a roof top bag on my rack I could have driven it down to you ! But I don't... Lmao

I did buy it just haven't paid him yet.

Bugger if its legit I should of bought ten...lol

[NissanGQ4.2]

I seriously can't believe you guys even bothered wasting your time with this

[TPC]

I m wondering what the hell I will do with it if I get it, too bloody big.

[rottodiver]

Looks to be same seller and light
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231100544723&globalID=EBAY-AU

Thinks they missed a number

Scott

[rottodiver]

I seriously can't believe you guys even bothered wasting your time with this

More to gain then lose in my opinion... Worst senario is PayPal return my money... Best is I get the lights for this price and sell one or both and make a few dollars

Scotty

[meh]

check your ebay details I think he's on to it
OMG 405 sold

Not a bad way to get over $9g in a couple of days. With postage added he's just got $17.4G in the bank when everyone pays

[AB]

Looks to be same seller and light
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231100544723&globalID=EBAY-AU

Thinks they missed a number

Scott

Different seller mate.

[macca86]

Did everyone leave your phone number as per instructions on the ad?

[AB]

Did everyone leave your phone number as per instructions on the ad?

Yep I did...my PayPal just failed because of an old credit card that's all.

[macca86]

I didn't give my number was suss on that aus post leaves a note and other stuff I've had delivered left a not to pick them up

[AB]

I didn't give my number was suss on that aus post leaves a note and other stuff I've had delivered left a not to pick them up

It's funny you say that because it would not allow me to send it to my po box. I've sent big items to my po box on Ebay multiple times.

I had to change it to my olds house.

The plot thickens...lol

[Winnie]

It's funny you say that because it would not allow me to send it to my po box. I've sent big items to my po box on Ebay multiple times.

I had to change it to my olds house.

The plot thickens...lol

We only have a PO box, I always put our billing address and the postie knows the name so keeps it at the post office until we pick it up.


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[GU CAMPER]

41949

Same seller. Looks to be same light. $407.99 with free postage

Item number is
111060281295

Not sure how to post link from iphone

[NissanGQ4.2]

Same seller. Looks to be same light. $407.99 with free postage

Item number is
111060281295

Not sure how to post link from iphone

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111060281295

[AB]

Yeah wow that's the same bloke.

I think he's now realised...lol

[megatexture]

I didn't leave my number if no ones home they just take it to aust post or there depo and drop a card saying where to pick it up

[megatexture]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111060281295

This ones posting from china the first link we all purchased from is postal address Sydney .. So surely not the same person

[rottodiver]

Yes the ones we bought said Sydney but when you look at the company location it said china...
Scott

[NissanGQ4.2]

This ones posting from china the first link we all purchased from is postal address Sydney .. So surely not the same person

Its the same person, I checked it all out before posting the link up

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah looks identical and appears to be the same seller. I reckon he has now bumped up the price of these to offset the loss of us lot. The new price in o way reflects the digits of the error prices??

[NissanGQ4.2]

Yeah looks identical and appears to be the same seller. I reckon he has now bumped up the price of these to offset the loss of us lot. The new price in o way reflects the digits of the error prices??

Looks 2 be smaller 41.4 inch bar

[Maxhead]

Looks 2 be smaller 41.4 inch bar

The other one was the same. In the item specifics section it said 41.5 inch and on the picture in the description it was 1383mm..I thought the same thing as well

[Winnies-missus]

Looks to be same seller and light
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231100544723&globalID=EBAY-AU

Thinks they missed a number

Scott

Sellers name is different

[Maxhead]

Oh well...LOL

Dear Valued customer,

First we would love to express our heartful thanks for your purchase from us.
We regret to tell you that Ebay has sent an warning email to us last night that our account has been HACKED since Friday night,and some listing price has been changed viciously to be very low.But we were off on weekend, did not notice that email and correct the prices in time.

Especially to this item,actually it was originally sold at AUD 222.99,to this case, how about we make a full refund to you? Also, to express our sincere apologies,if there is any item you would be interested in, we would love to offer you 5% discount off for next purchase.How about that?

We sincerely beg for your forgiveness and hope you would kindly understand our situation and not leave any bad feedback to harm us.

If there is any other suggestion,please kindly contact us,we would do our best to resolve it for you.

Best regards


- carcamworld2012

[AB]

Just got that email myself...bahahahahaha

Bugger!

[AB]

Dear Valued customer,

First we would love to express our heartful thanks for your purchase from us.
We regret to tell you that Ebay has sent an warning email to us last night that our

account has been HACKED since Friday night,and some listing price has been changed

viciously to be very low.But we were off on weekend, did not notice that email and

correct the prices in time.

Especially to this item,actually it was originally sold at AUD 222.99,please DO NOT pay

for this item,or our account, which might make your account suspicious.

Also to express our sincere apologies,if there is any item you would be interested in, we

would love to offer you 5% discount off for next purchase.How about that?

We sincerely beg for your forgiveness and hope you would kindly understand our situation

and not leave any bad feedback to harm us.

If there is any other suggestion,please kindly contact us,we would do our best to resolve it for you.

Best regards

- carcamworld2012

[Maxhead]

Just got that email myself...bahahahahaha

Bugger!


I reckon we all threaten them with bad feedback if he doesn't come through with the deal...LOL

If it was hacked, eBay would have removed the listing themselves for sure

[rottodiver]

I haven't received an email from them yet but would be asking to see the correspondence from ebay and them...

Scotty

[Clunk]

Account hacked, my arse!!!!!!!!!! Lmfao

[rottodiver]

This is a great way to get a mailing list and sell products from their shop... Mind you sending out 400 emails would be a pain...
Scott

[Winnie]

Yep I just came home to see the same email haha. Surely there is some legal obligation we could find to bury them? I want my damn cheap light bar! Hahaha

[GU CAMPER]

Haven't received email yet

Thought it may have been to good to be true

[rottodiver]

I replied and have asked for correspondence between them and ebay.... Also it is them that have to refund as I have paid.. Here is the reply
carcamworld2012 is out of the office until 03/17/2014 and may not be able to respond to your message.

Message from carcamworld2012:
Dear Buyer,

Thanks for contacting us. Pls be kindly informed that we are having holiday on the weekend. Sorry we can not respond promptly to your message.We will resolve your concern when we get back to work.

Your understanding and patience will be much appreciated. :-)

Have a nice weekend!

Customer Support
9:00-18:00( GMT+8 )
Monday-Friday

[oncedisturbed]

My ar$e it was hacked, as far as I am aware they are required to honour the sale. Will be interesting to see Rotto's reply email from them.

I will be responding to them that they honour the sale

[MEGOMONSTER]

Got my email.
Reported to eBay for a response from eBay themselves.
Aaaaah the fun and games.

[the evil twin]

Yep I just came home to see the same email haha. Surely there is some legal obligation we could find to bury them? I want my damn cheap light bar! Hahaha

Careful... you might end up with it delivered air express straight thru your window in Boeing 777

[macca86]

I just got the email too. How about send me my product bitches

[megatexture]

My ar$e it was hacked, as far as I am aware they are required to honour the sale. Will be interesting to see Rotto's reply email from them.

I will be responding to them that they honour the sale

Me to, bad reviews will be the least of there worries.. If a shop puts a incorrect price tag on an item they must honour that price same will apply here.

[TPC]

I have also asked for a copy of the email from ebay, if I do not receive it I will then leave bad feedback.
If it was hacked you cant blame them but if its bullshit then 400 bad feedback entries in 1 month will look real bad.

[GU CAMPER]

Just received the dreaded email

Have wrote back asking for product to be delivered as I had paid for

I had ordered 5 for me and a few mates
We want our lights.

[Family4x4]

http://ebay.about.com/od/resolvingdispute1/a/Oops-Ive-Made-A-Big-Ebay-Mistake-How-Do-I-Cancel.htm

[megatexture]

Since some of you have taken he high road here and asked for ebay correspondence I think I might take another approach and threaten them with a bad review, report them to ebay and seek legal advice and/or department of fair trading.

Can anyone think of anything else I can throw in? Lmao

[macca86]

I said this
Dear carcamworld2012,

I would like to see a copy of this correspondence as I feel the advertised price should stand.

- 86macca

[P4trol]

We'll hire (or similar) a Boeing 777 and pay them a visit.

[macca86]

I think they are trying to get people to say refund so they can get out of the mistake. I got the they are not working email if they are not working his did they contact with ebay

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah I got the email too.

[megatexture]

I've replied ....

That is unfortunate to hear, however I bought the item for an advertised price and I expect to receive it at that price. If this doesn't happen I will be lodging a formal complaint with ebay as there is no way they would allow the advert to remain knowing that your account was hacked.
You have clearly made a typo and are trying to get out of it.
I expect to receive notification on Tuesday that the item has been shipped, 1 business day after payment has been made.

[GU CAMPER]

Just got a reply from him



Thank you for your quick response.

I am sorry again about this problem.

We hope you understand that as our account was hacked and the price was changed without our permission, we were not intend to sell the item at such low price. How about we issue full refund then add more $10 as compensation for this mistake?

Please respond to confirm, thanks and sorry again.

[lhurley]

This is starting to smell like a scam. Offering refunds to get bank details. If you's get a bar for that price, I'll be disappointed, but the way this is panning out at the moment I'm glad I passed.

[MudRunnerTD]

Now the interesting thing about this is that the Seller continually updated their add and change the quantity available to continue selling them... I can't imagine a Hacker doing that? The Hacker would just set the quantity to 500 or something?

They already have some poor feedback, eBay will shut them down if they get much more. that's what happened to Hobbsie a few years ago! The feedback caught p with him.

I have not responded to them just yet but am watching your correspondence with interest and will probably send a similar one tomorrow.

[lucus30]

I think I'm happy to accept a refund as we all knew it was too good to be true

[macca86]

Cheaper to give up to 100 bucks I reckon than the item they will try these tactics to get out of it cheaply. Someone smarter than me should write a response and we all copy and paste show unity and stick it to them

[megatexture]

This is starting to smell like a scam. Offering refunds to get bank details. If you's get a bar for that price, I'll be disappointed, but the way this is panning out at the moment I'm glad I passed.

They don't get acc details over paypal

[lucus30]

This is starting to smell like a scam. Offering refunds to get bank details. If you's get a bar for that price, I'll be disappointed, but the way this is panning out at the moment I'm glad I passed.

Refunds would be done through PayPal so I don't think so

[megatexture]

Cheaper to give up to 100 bucks I reckon than the item they will try these tactics to get out of it cheaply. Someone smarter than me should write a response and we all copy and paste show unity and stick it to them

Yea that could work.

[MudRunnerTD]

Cheaper to give up to 100 bucks I reckon than the item they will try these tactics to get out of it cheaply. Someone smarter than me should write a response and we all copy and paste show unity and stick it to them

Dunno?? So the maths should be something like this.... If they normally sell it retail for $220 and work on a standard 100% markup the units cost them $110. We paid ow much? Say$50 including postage and handling they are probably out of pocket $60 or $70 per unit in total??? Maybe? What do you reckon?

[macca86]

No need to get technical about it. What about the other ad they put up for the exact same bar for 400

[MudRunnerTD]

No need to get technical about it. What about the other ad they put up for the exact same bar for 400

Yeah I know, I reckon they are trying to make some of the loss by bumping up the price. In their email though they reckon they normally sell it for $229 or something didn't they?

Based on the maths above though I reckon they may well take the hit to anyone that makes a heap of noise and give refunds to those that go quietly. The gap is not a huge amount of money for them.

[megatexture]

Dunno?? So the maths should be something like this.... If they normally sell it retail for $220 and work on a standard 100% markup the units cost them $110. We paid ow much? Say$50 including postage and handling they are probably out of pocket $60 or $70 per unit in total??? Maybe? What do you reckon?

It will be worth it if ebay shuts them down?

[TPC]

Interesting that they received this positive feedback yesterday for the same item at the same price.

[macca86]

Never give early feed back always wait for your item. With the safety net of paypal it's worth a go.

[megatexture]

That poor bastard, he can't even change the review I don't think ..

[megatexture]

Dear Valued customer,

First we would love to express our heartful thanks for your purchase from us.
We regret to tell you that Ebay has sent an warning email to us last night that our

account has been HACKED since Friday night,and some listing price has been changed

viciously to be very low.But we were off on weekend, did not notice that email and

correct the prices in time.

Especially to this item,actually it was originally sold at AUD 222.99,please DO NOT pay

for this item,or our account, which might make your account suspicious.

Also to express our sincere apologies,if there is any item you would be interested in, we

would love to offer you 5% discount off for next purchase.How about that?

We sincerely beg for your forgiveness and hope you would kindly understand our situation

and not leave any bad feedback to harm us.

If there is any other suggestion,please kindly contact us,we would do our best to resolve it for you.

Best regards

- carcamworld2012



My email was different to Andy's ...




Dear Valued customer,

First we would love to express our heartful thanks for your purchase from us.
We regret to tell you that Ebay has sent an warning email to us last night that our account has been HACKED since Friday night,and some listing price has been changed viciously to be very low.But we were off on weekend, did not notice that email and correct the prices in time.

Especially to this item,actually it was originally sold at AUD 222.99,to this case, how about we make a full refund to you? Also, to express our sincere apologies,if there is any item you would be interested in, we would love to offer you 5% discount off for next purchase.How about that?

We sincerely beg for your forgiveness and hope you would kindly understand our situation and not leave any bad feedback to harm us.

If there is any other suggestion,please kindly contact us,we would do our best to resolve it for you.

Best regards


- carcamworld2012


How will paying for an item make you look suspicious lol

[MudRunnerTD]

It will be worth it if ebay shuts them down?

Yeah I agree, that's what I mean, the gap is not that great, if most take up the refund then he will likely take the hit on a few. And send the items. The email appears to be written by someone with English as a second language and they may well be the manufacturers to so the hit is getting less and less.

Their current feedback score sees them close to being closed by eBay anyway, they want this to go away.

[MudRunnerTD]

My email was different to Andy's ...




Dear Valued customer,

First we would love to express our heartful thanks for your purchase from us.
We regret to tell you that Ebay has sent an warning email to us last night that our account has been HACKED since Friday night,and some listing price has been changed viciously to be very low.But we were off on weekend, did not notice that email and correct the prices in time.

Especially to this item,actually it was originally sold at AUD 222.99,to this case, how about we make a full refund to you? Also, to express our sincere apologies,if there is any item you would be interested in, we would love to offer you 5% discount off for next purchase.How about that?

We sincerely beg for your forgiveness and hope you would kindly understand our situation and not leave any bad feedback to harm us.

If there is any other suggestion,please kindly contact us,we would do our best to resolve it for you.

Best regards


- carcamworld2012


How will paying for an item make you look suspicious lol

Yeah mine is the same as yours. They re wrote it I think, their relatively poor English needed some reworking. ;)

[Family4x4]

The different email is one is for people who paid and one for people who haven't?

[megatexture]

Possibly as Andy hadn't and I have how about you mr?

[Dhuck]

Got the same email as AB. Shut the Fockers down fleabay.

[macca86]

Or give me my 2 light bars and learn from your mistakes plus to ebay rules it's tough luck. I've paid now gimme

[Dhuck]

Or give me my 2 light bars and learn from your mistakes plus to ebay rules it's tough luck. I've paid now gimme

With you on that Macca. They fit nicely across a troll. Is funny though how they were hacked and only the 1 item was discounted.

[jc84]

Hi guys, I signed up to nissanpatrol yesterday sometime (i think? haha long days) and had been trawling the DIY section when i stumbled onto this thread.
Bought one myself last night, paid for it via paypal and have received the above message tonight (bugger!)

Wasn't happy but could understand that it would suck a55 to be on the receiving end even if it was just a typo (i'm not buying the hacked story).

But then I started having a read of the Seller performance standards on the ebay's website.
"When a buyer wins an item on eBay, the seller and buyer have entered a contract that both members are expected to honour. A seller's obligations are formal – such as sending the item that was described in the listing – as well as informal – such as providing good service." http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/seller-non-performance.html

I agree with old mate above, we write the one letter and those of us who have already paid for our light bars send it to him, by all accounts he's obligated to send the bars.
Those of us that haven't already paid, maybe out of luck on this one as no money has changed hands.

whos keen?

[megatexture]

Got the same email as AB. Shut the Fockers down fleabay.

Had you paid for yours?


With you on that Macca. They fit nicely across a troll. Is funny though how they were hacked and only the 1 item was discounted.

And I was thinking the same thing and ebay would have frozen any transactions/ bidding from them if they thought they had been hacked. its all damage control because of some idiot that doesn't know how to put in the correct price.

[Dhuck]

Hi guys, I signed up to nissanpatrol yesterday sometime (i think? haha long days) and had been trawling the DIY section when i stumbled onto this thread.
Bought one myself last night, paid for it via paypal and have received the above message tonight (bugger!)

Wasn't happy but could understand that it would suck a55 to be on the receiving end even if it was just a typo (i'm not buying the hacked story).

But then I started having a read of the Seller performance standards on the ebay's website.
"When a buyer wins an item on eBay, the seller and buyer have entered a contract that both members are expected to honour. A seller's obligations are formal – such as sending the item that was described in the listing – as well as informal – such as providing good service." http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/seller-non-performance.html

I agree with old mate above, we write the one letter and those of us who have already paid for our light bars send it to him, by all accounts he's obligated to send the bars.
Those of us that haven't already paid, maybe out of luck on this one as no money has changed hands.

whos keen?

Yep. That was my thoughts exactly.

[Dhuck]

Had you paid for yours?



And I was thinking the same thing and ebay would have frozen any transactions/ bidding from them if they thought they had been hacked. its all damage control because of some idiot that doesn't know how to put in the correct price.

Yes mate through paypal.

[Family4x4]

Just recieved


Hello,
Thank you so much for your quick reply.
Yes,we could send the proof email from ebay to you,but as we are Chinese Seller,the email was sent from Hongkong ebay in Chinese,would you also need it? We are really sorry,as we originally set to sell at AUD 222.99 for a few lights in stock in Australia, but someone hacked in to change the price,also the quanity,which we did not intend to do so.

Or how about this,we make a full refund to you,meanwhile send AUD 15 as compensation to your account to express our sincere apologies,would this work?

Sorry again for all the trouble and waiting for your reply

Best regards

[Dhuck]

Just recieved


Hello,
Thank you so much for your quick reply.
Yes,we could send the proof email from ebay to you,but as we are Chinese Seller,the email was sent from Hongkong ebay in Chinese,would you also need it? We are really sorry,as we originally set to sell at AUD 222.99 for a few lights in stock in Australia, but someone hacked in to change the price,also the quanity,which we did not intend to do so.

Or how about this,we make a full refund to you,meanwhile send AUD 15 as compensation to your account to express our sincere apologies,would this work?

Sorry again for all the trouble and waiting for your reply

Best regards

Sheet no. I want my bar. lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Yep I paid for mine at the checkout via PayPal.. Happy days!! Light bar coming my way!

[Family4x4]

So who is writing the collective letter?

[Dhuck]

Happy days for 200 plus lol

[oncedisturbed]

I have already responded saying that I purchased in good faith and requested to see the ebay letter and advised that I would be confirming this with ebay

[Dhuck]

So who is writing the collective letter?

Thought you would do the honors darlin

[MudRunnerTD]

Just recieved


Hello,
Thank you so much for your quick reply.
Yes,we could send the proof email from ebay to you,but as we are Chinese Seller,the email was sent from Hongkong ebay in Chinese,would you also need it? We are really sorry,as we originally set to sell at AUD 222.99 for a few lights in stock in Australia, but someone hacked in to change the price,also the quanity,which we did not intend to do so.

Or how about this,we make a full refund to you,meanwhile send AUD 15 as compensation to your account to express our sincere apologies,would this work?

Sorry again for all the trouble and waiting for your reply

Best regards

Yeah yeah! Not a chance! No Way would ebay.com.au send and email from eBay.com.hk to eBay.com.china. NOWAY. In Manderin about a hack to .com.au

Hit em hard

[P4trol]

I got the "full refund plus au$15" blurb too. That's on first reply too. Keep pushing I reckon...

Mighty dedicated them coming in on a weekend though.

[GU CAMPER]

I've told them to get eBay to send me a direct email about the alleged hacking

[Dhuck]

Go hard my bent little friend

[P4trol]

Well just don't accept any eBay looking email with Chinese gibberish on it. It could say anything!

[jc84]

feel free to copy and paste into your ebay

Hi Carcamworld2012

No, sorry a refund will no be suitable.

Your ebay password is your responsibility and yours alone. If my account was hacked and the hacker purchased hundreds of your most expensive items you would be expecting payment wouldn't you, so why should it be different for me?
I understand you would not want to receive any extra negative feedback and that is not my intention. Negative feedback can be avoided by you the seller abiding by the seller performance standards in Ebay's policies, which state that when a buyer wins an item on eBay, the seller and buyer have entered a contract that both members are expected to honor.

As money has already been paid into your paypal account for the above listing I have honored my part of the contract and I expect your store to do the same. I will be expecting the item to be posted 1-2 day after payment verification as per your original listing.
Please note that if you fail to meet the minimum performance standards, your search placement is likely to be lowered, there maybe limits applied to your selling activity or you may be restricted from selling items on Ebay altogether.

I look forward to seeing this items status being updated as posted.

Regards,

[jc84]

Also if they come with birdflu or sars or something, totally not my fault.

[Dhuck]

Nice. Lets see how things go. Can see it is not only us, but many others too. You gotta love fleabay..

[jc84]

I don't really want to mount a 52" bar anyway, I thought I'd get something more in the 30's

But as they say, arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud, after a while you realize the pig likes it.

[megatexture]

My reply

Sorry no compensation will be accepted as when I paid for this product we entered a binding contract, as I said earlier I expect to be notified of the product being posted on Tuesday.

Furthermore I understand you would not want to receive any negative feedback and that is not my intention. Negative feedback can be avoided by you the seller abiding by the seller performance standards in Ebay's policies, which state that when a buyer wins an item on eBay, the seller and buyer have entered a contract that both members are expected to honor.

Failing to receive confirmation of the item being posted by the end of Tuesday will result in a negative review and a formal complaint to ebay, also forwarding all communications between us including your claim that they notified you of your supposed hacking and took no further action.



I wonder how many are giving up and taking the $

[jc84]

f**k me i hate chain mail
got the same wank of an email back saying some rubbish about a chinesese email with too many hard to pronounce r's or some rubbish and he could give me a nice shiny $15 dollarr coin as compensation.

haha never had this much fun at midnight on ebay before!

[MudRunnerTD]

This is what i sent.

Dear carcamworld2012,

Hi there,

That is unfortunate as you say if your account has been hacked. Please forward the correspondence from eBay Australia that confirmed that the account had been hacked and advise me also why Ebay, upon becoming aware that the account had been hacked did not restrict or remove the listing immediately? If your Credit Card got stolen the bank would immediately restrict its use.

My understanding is that we have entered a contract for Sale and supply of the item as per the rules of ebay. I have paid in good faith the full amount of your "Buy Now" plus the stipulated postage amount and i am clear that your obligation is to provide the item as per the listing. You note also that the item is located in Sydney and the delivery time is 2 to 7 days.

Please forward the despatch advice once the item is posted.

Kind Regards



I think that we all should write different emails but use the same basic points. I am a little concerned even about this thread. Id hate to jeopardise our chances if the seller can present a conspiracy theory to eBay and have us all bumped.??? Or Not?

I felt a little sorry for the seller if it was some Aussie Bloke trying to make a living on eBay but i think its a larger Chinese company and they can give a little back ;)

[megatexture]

This is the latest


Hello,
Thank you again for quick reply.
We do want to ship the light to you as this price,which as a serious seller should do so. But actually we only have few light in stock,which someone hacked in,changing the price and also the quantity. It has been sold out very quickly at this price.Which we did not expect this situation happened.
Sincerely hope you could kindly understand our situation.and how about this,we make a full refund to you,and send AUD 20 as compensation,meanwhile,we would offer you 8% discount off for next purchase.

We really would love to resolve this problem with you,and understand your feeling about it.but please accept our apologies.

Sorry again for all the trouble and waiting for your reply

Best regards

[jc84]

Yeah, I think we're safe talking about it on here, i'm still standing by the contract between the buyer and the seller, nissanpatrol.com.au has nothing to do with it, but I see the concurn. For that matter I have no idea what ebay hongkong has to do with it either.

I felt a little bad too, but then i thought if someone hacked my ebay and bought a heap of sh1t, they'd all expect me to pay, and if i didn't they'd all call me a cee-you-n-t i'm sure. so bugger em.

I see on his store he has "Regular 35% of sales", so must have a bit of fat on some gear, so worth while seeing how far we get i'd say.


SH!T, mega's one email ahead of me, gotta catch up! ahhaa

[megatexture]

This is what i sent.

Dear carcamworld2012,

Hi there,

That is unfortunate as you say if your account has been hacked. Please forward the correspondence from eBay Australia that confirmed that the account had been hacked and advise me also why Ebay, upon becoming aware that the account had been hacked did not restrict or remove the listing immediately? If your Credit Card got stolen the bank would immediately restrict its use.

My understanding is that we have entered a contract for Sale and supply of the item as per the rules of ebay. I have paid in good faith the full amount of your "Buy Now" plus the stipulated postage amount and i am clear that your obligation is to provide the item as per the listing. You note also that the item is located in Sydney and the delivery time is 2 to 7 days.

Please forward the despatch advice once the item is posted.

Kind Regards



I think that we all should write different emails but use the same basic points. I am a little concerned even about this thread. Id hate to jeopardise our chances if the seller can present a conspiracy theory to eBay and have us all bumped.??? Or Not?

I felt a little sorry for the seller if it was some Aussie Bloke trying to make a living on eBay but i think its a larger Chinese company and they can give a little back ;)

They said already that they have communications in Chinese .. So it's not a little Aussie bloke getting screwed . Don't give up this will be pocket $ for them

[MudRunnerTD]

WARNING WARNING WARNING.

i have just been into my gmail account and have a Hack Warning email from Google advising that someone tried to hack my gmail from a location in China on the 15th of this month. The same day that i purchased my item.

I have Never seen this type of warning from Google before and a gmail.com account is a Google email option.



Hi Darren,

Someone recently used your password to try to sign in to your Google Account XXXXXXXXX@gmail.com. This person was using an application such as an email client or mobile device.

We prevented the sign-in attempt in case this was a hijacker trying to access your account. Please review the details of the sign-in attempt:

Saturday, March 15, 2014 4:31:02 AM UTC
IP Address: 60.168.127.141
Location: Hefei, Anhui, China


If you do not recognize this sign-in attempt, someone else might be trying to access your account. You should sign in to your account and reset your password immediately.

Reset password

If this was you, and you are having trouble accessing your account, complete the troubleshooting steps listed at http://support.google.com/mail?p=client_login

Sincerely,
The Google Accounts team


Is this just a coincidence and something i should not consider or the real Game??


I just got the email advising that the letter is in Chinese etc..

[MudRunnerTD]

They said already that they have communications in Chinese .. So it's not a little Aussie bloke getting screwed . Don't give up this will be pocket $ for them

Yep 100% agree.

[jack]

Looks like they are offering different discounts, just received this and they claim there are none available. Nice to see the Sydney warehouse checking stock at 1am

Hello,
Thank you for your quick reply.
Yes,we could send the proof email from ebay to you,but as we are Chinese Seller,the email was sent from Hongkong ebay in Chinese,would you also need it? as we originally set to sell at AUD 222.99 for a few lights in stock, but someone hacked in to change the price,also the quanity,which we did not intend to do so. Now the Australia warehouse has just informed us that the lights have been out of stock.

Or how about this,we make a full refund to you,meanwhile send AUD 15 as compensation to your account to express our sincere apologies,would this work?

Sorry again for all the trouble and waiting for your reply

Best regards


- carcamworld2012

[rottodiver]

We'll as I had 2 transactions win them and ebay does give them the right to with draw the sale after it has been bought via the ebay resolution which can take a month.. I just received my refund through PayPal and 30 dollars us( 15 for both transactions.... Could have held out for more but 30 us for doing nothing is cool)...
Pretty good service to be honest..
Scotty

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/sell/cancel-transaction-process.html

[jc84]

A happy customer...sort of.

[megatexture]

WARNING WARNING WARNING.

i have just been into my gmail account and have a Hack Warning email from Google advising that someone tried to hack my gmail from a location in China on the 15th of this month. The same day that i purchased my item.

I have Never seen this type of warning from Google before and a gmail.com account is a Google email option.



Hi Darren,

Someone recently used your password to try to sign in to your Google Account XXXXXXXXX@gmail.com. This person was using an application such as an email client or mobile device.

We prevented the sign-in attempt in case this was a hijacker trying to access your account. Please review the details of the sign-in attempt:

Saturday, March 15, 2014 4:31:02 AM UTC
IP Address: 60.168.127.141
Location: Hefei, Anhui, China


If you do not recognize this sign-in attempt, someone else might be trying to access your account. You should sign in to your account and reset your password immediately.

Reset password

If this was you, and you are having trouble accessing your account, complete the troubleshooting steps listed at http://support.google.com/mail?p=client_login

Sincerely,
The Google Accounts team


Is this just a coincidence and something i should not consider or the real Game??


I just got the email advising that the letter is in Chinese etc..

How could it be related though .. I can't see how there could be a link I've not gotten any email warnings

[93patrol]

Maybe they heard about you mythical gq and wanted to see if it was true by hacking your account

[MudRunnerTD]

WARNING WARNING WARNING.

i have just been into my gmail account and have a Hack Warning email from Google advising that someone tried to hack my gmail from a location in China on the 15th of this month. The same day that i purchased my item.

I have Never seen this type of warning from Google before and a gmail.com account is a Google email option.



Hi Darren,

Someone recently used your password to try to sign in to your Google Account XXXXXXXXX@gmail.com. This person was using an application such as an email client or mobile device.

We prevented the sign-in attempt in case this was a hijacker trying to access your account. Please review the details of the sign-in attempt:

Saturday, March 15, 2014 4:31:02 AM UTC
IP Address: 60.168.127.141
Location: Hefei, Anhui, China

If you do not recognize this sign-in attempt, someone else might be trying to access your account. You should sign in to your account and reset your password immediately.

Reset password

If this was you, and you are having trouble accessing your account, complete the troubleshooting steps listed at http://support.google.com/mail?p=client_login

Sincerely,
The Google Accounts team

Is this just a coincidence and something i should not consider or the real Game??


I just got the email advising that the letter is in Chinese etc..

So just doing some back checking and World Clock checking and it appears that this happened about 3 hours before i purchased the item so a coincidence.

[jc84]

I just got the +$20 refund, but still only 5% discount!!! i'ma about to go all Mao Zedong on there assz

[megatexture]

And reply again..

As stated I will not be accepting any compensation and expect a light bar to be posted on Tuesday as per your ebay advertisement/contract.

if you have none in stock why have I found you are you selling the same product still just for a higher dollar value?

If you can't provide the exact product you have sold me I will be willing to accept one of your other bars with the same specifications (dimensions, lumens, watts) or better as a replacement,
spot spread or combo light pattern is of no concern to me either.

I will not be accepting compensation.

..



They say they have none but continue selling them.. And one has sold for 400 bucks already

Fark it, ATM I only stand to loose a 20$ compensation I'm gonna see how this plays out lmao

[jc84]

Yep, my short term goal was to get it to $40 at least tonight, but no reply for an hour or two, sad now :(

If you haven't already had a read of this, it's pretty interesting. http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/buy/item-not-received.html

I don't have a paypal account, just fill my details in manually each time I use it, but i think I'll have to make an account to get to paypals resolutions center?

[threedogs]

I asked for a full refund and on top of that the seller has offered 5% off anything in his shop

[kevin07]

WARNING WARNING WARNING.

i have just been into my gmail account and have a Hack Warning email from Google advising that someone tried to hack my gmail from a location in China on the 15th of this month. The same day that i purchased my item.

I have Never seen this type of warning from Google before and a gmail.com account is a Google email option.



Hi Darren,

Someone recently used your password to try to sign in to your Google Account XXXXXXXXX@gmail.com. This person was using an application such as an email client or mobile device.

We prevented the sign-in attempt in case this was a hijacker trying to access your account. Please review the details of the sign-in attempt:

Saturday, March 15, 2014 4:31:02 AM UTC
IP Address: 60.168.127.141
Location: Hefei, Anhui, China


If you do not recognize this sign-in attempt, someone else might be trying to access your account. You should sign in to your account and reset your password immediately.

Reset password

If this was you, and you are having trouble accessing your account, complete the troubleshooting steps listed at http://support.google.com/mail?p=client_login

Sincerely,
The Google Accounts team


Is this just a coincidence and something i should not consider or the real Game??


I just got the email advising that the letter is in Chinese etc..

my experience with someone trying to hack my account is that my provider shit my account down

[kevin07]

Looks like they are offering different discounts, just received this and they claim there are none available. Nice to see the Sydney warehouse checking stock at 1am

Hello,
Thank you for your quick reply.
Yes,we could send the proof email from ebay to you,but as we are Chinese Seller,the email was sent from Hongkong ebay in Chinese,would you also need it? as we originally set to sell at AUD 222.99 for a few lights in stock, but someone hacked in to change the price,also the quanity,which we did not intend to do so. Now the Australia warehouse has just informed us that the lights have been out of stock.

Or how about this,we make a full refund to you,meanwhile send AUD 15 as compensation to your account to express our sincere apologies,would this work?

Sorry again for all the trouble and waiting for your reply

Best regards


- carcamworld2012

if you ask ebay aust they will go straight in and verify any correspondence no matter what langauge

[threedogs]

Now they have out of office reply

[P4trol]

Three dogs, you're selling yourself too lightly. Several people have had the offer of 100% refund, 5% discount, and au$15 in the meantime.

They keep repeating certain pieces of information, but no refund until you slightly agree with them. I think they know where they stand.

My replies are put in similar language to theirs, with a little sarcasm.

[oncedisturbed]

Did a similar write up with my response as well

[Alitis007]

Got a message like you lot last night, think i might go over ebays fine print before i reply lol

[Winnie]

I got one identical to what has been posted. Sent a similar reply to the rest of you guys, I have not yet told them that it is against eBay policy to try and make deals privately via email like the compensations they are offering. I've asked them to get an official statement from eBay.

[megatexture]

My last offer was full refund + 20$ and 8% on next purchase you need to get more agressive threedogs

Im on my wsy home now to see what reply I have then. Cant wait

[Winnie]

My last offer was full refund + 20$ and 8% on next purchase you need to get more agressive threedogs

Im on my wsy home now to see what reply I have then. Cant wait

They're very slow on responses hey. I've only had one reply since last night

[Family4x4]

I sent a message to them at 7:30am and have had no reply. I re iterated my previous message stating that I would like the product. My last correspondence from them was:

Thank you so much for your messages.
We really want to ship the lights to you, but actually we only have few in stock in Australia warehouse. and sincerely apologize as we originally set to sell at AUD 222.99 for a few lights in stock, but someone hacked in to change the price,also the quanity,which we did not intend to do so.
Sincerely hope you could kindly understand our situation.and how about we make a full refund to you,and send AUD 15 as compensation,meanwhile,we would offer you 5% discount off for next purchase.
Would this work?
Best regards

[Maxhead]

They told me they have none in stock so I hit them up with "Why are you still listing them"
Then I told them I would be happy to accept the next size down which is in stock..LOL see what happens

[megatexture]

The latest from them ...


Hello,
Thank you for reply,i am sorry for late,as just coming back to work in the morning.
Yes,we have some of similar lights in stock,but don't have too many in stock,this morning,all of them have been already arranged to ship out already.And our Chinese factory has already started to prepare for the production, which may need some time to finish the production.
Would you mind waiting? or there is other suggestion,please kindly contact us
Thank you
Best regards





My reply just now ...

Surely you have a light bar of similar description you can send out by Tuesday as I don't want to wait weeks, so be it a dual 3watt like I have purchased or a dual 5 watt even a single row 10watt in a 52"bar. I don't know what you have in stock?.
I am just wanting you to honour your part of the contract as previously discussed by posting out my purchase or similar by the end of tuesday


......


To me it sounds like I'll be getting something lol, with all the options I'm giving them they can't say they have run out of them lol!

Edit: bwahahahahaha

[Maxhead]

I just threatened them with a nuclear bomb landing on their factory if they don't send me my light plus 3 others for the stress I went through with this unfortunate experience...ferk...bwahahaha


I'll still get me $$$ back :)

[Family4x4]

Just in.

Hello，

Thanks for your quick reply.

We are a honest and responsible seller, you can check our feedback. Our team is currently trying our best to figure out the problem. We are the biggest victims of this incident. Hopefully you could understand our situation and give us a hand.

We also understand your situation. The factory can not ensure when the new light will be available. If you would like to accept full refund and cancel this order, we will send extra AUD 15 to you as a compensation. Would that be OK?

We know you are a good customer and will help us to overcome the difficulties.

Best Regards

[megatexture]

Just keep at them they are no longer asking me to accept compensation or a payout.
just crack that whip!

[Mud Gecko]

Not really impressed with whats happening in this thread. Unsubscribed.

[Dhuck]

I am still going them. I want a bigger bar as I am only a little man.

[megatexture]

Not really impressed with whats happening in this thread. Unsubscribed.



You subscribed....

[LachDiggityDog]

I just got the refund it's only $40 I really don't see the point in fighting it, they know it was a muck up and are just trying to save their business like any of us would try to do..?

[mudski]

Not really impressed with whats happening in this thread. Unsubscribed.

Yeah well some people like to push the boundaries of the eBay rules knowing that the seller has made a monumental mistake. Each to their own, don't bother me either way, If the seller didn't lie and just said "Sorry, we efféd up on the price" it would have been easier than saying their account was hacked. I knew it was to good to be true and just accepted the credit. If that were my store I would just live with the negative feedback some buyers would leave as anyone in their right mind would see why and look past it. As a business owner myself, I know how much this is going to hurt the seller.
Having said that. Good luck to anyone who is not accepting their bullchit and is actually get something out of it. Please do report back on what you got out of it though....:smiley_thumbs_up:

[Bloodyaussie]

Not really impressed with whats happening in this thread. Unsubscribed.

I must agree.... greed does strange things to people.

[Maxhead]

Yeah well some people like to push the boundaries of the eBay rules knowing that the seller has made a monumental mistake. Each to their own, don't bother me either way, If the seller didn't lie and just said "Sorry, we efféd up on the price" it would have been easier than saying their account was hacked. I knew it was to good to be true and just accepted the credit. If that were my store I would just live with the negative feedback some buyers would leave as anyone in their right mind would see why and look past it. As a business owner myself, I know how much this is going to hurt the seller.
Having said that. Good luck to anyone who is not accepting their bullchit and is actually get something out of it. Please do report back on what you got out of it though....:smiley_thumbs_up:

So far I got a bit of pleasure fuking around with them...just like they are fuking around everyone else... Love it:)

[Dhuck]

I have received no refund and no email from them since 8:20 last night.

[Maxhead]

I must agree.... greed does strange things to people.


GREED!!! FFS Jonno. These f*ckers advertised a product for a price and should stick to it. They are now making excuses(lying) just because they f*ked up with their listing..SUCK SHIT I say..

[Winnie]

I have received no refund and no email from them since 8:20 last night.

Same here except I got one this morning, very slow on the replies when they are obviously online because they are replying to other members. But they must have 400 emails to go through hahahaa

[Family4x4]

Yes I have pondered my actions in this situation. I am a firm believer in responsibility.

I have also considered the information being fed to me by the other party involved. The following are a few examples of the information I have received.

"We regret to tell you that Ebay has sent an warning email to us last night that our account has been HACKED since Friday night"

"we could send the proof email from ebay to you,but as we are Chinese Seller,the email was sent from Hongkong ebay in Chinese,would you also need it?"

"We really want to ship the lights to you, but actually we only have few in stock in Australia warehouse"

"The factory can not ensure when the new light will be available"

"We are a honest and responsible seller".

"Responsible" and "Honest" their words, have they been? My formed opinion is no. So should a irresponsible and dishonest company be allowed to reneg on a contract easily? I think not.

[Winnie]

Not to mention the still have the same light listed for sale.

[Dhuck]

Not to mention the still have the same light listed for sale.

and my money. Now they are just common thief's

[jc84]

UPDATE TIME MOFOS!!!!

I'm getting my $43 lightbar...apparently.

"Hello,
Thank you for your reply,i am sorry for late as just coming back to work in the morning.
We totally understand your feeling,but item sold out too quickly by that low price,as we original don't have too many of this light in stock,and sent most of them to our Australia warehouse,now after we arranged some of the shipments from Chinese factory,here also out of stock,which the factory has been already starting to plan producing this item.which might take a little time around one month to produce out.
Would you mind waiting?
I am really really sorry for all the trouble caused and waiting for your reply
Best regards
Carcamworld2012"

This comes after sending them three messages last night calling there 'no more stock' email i crock of sh1t (in nicer words) and sending them a link to their other auctions for the exact same light bar apparently ex sydney (for $242 or something)

Does this mean I believe they're actually going to send it?
HELL NOOOOO!!!

I now think they're probably going using this bullsh1t story about waiting on the factory in china to 'produce more' then +15-21 days postage or whatever rubbish they'll claim to be to get past the 45 day limit of paypals claim dispute. humm... (i can hear the 'get smart' music playing in my head)
At any rate, this is the first positive email i've received from them, so am replying to it positively, see i have a nice streak, i'm not always a mean basted.

[TPC]

I have emailed back to say I will accept their offer of refund +15.
Not really interested in sending them broke.

[MEGOMONSTER]

Just received this from EBay OZ

"Hi Mick,


Thanks for contacting eBay about the email that you received from rcamworld2012 that their account was hacked.


I understand that you're worried since the seller wants to refund you instead of honouring the sale.


Mick, I commend you for contacting us to help you in this situation. We appreciate the time and the effort that you took in reporting the said seller and I know how worrisome this situation is for any members alike having to deal with sellers with such an inappropriate selling practices right in front of your computer.
We expect sellers to deliver a consistently high level of buyer satisfaction. When a buyer wins an item on eBay, the seller and buyer have entered a contract that both members are expected to honour. It is a seller's obligation to honour the sale and provide good service. Sellers who don't fulfill their obligations may be in breach of their contract.


I want to assure you that proper investigation and thorough monitoring will be done on the member’s account, and will sanction them after we confirm their violation. I understand how much you really wanted to know what actions we took against this member, however I am unable to share details of this action and the results of our investigation as we also want to keep your account's privacy secured.
We appreciate that you have taken the time to bring this to our attention. Let me assure you that we've looked into your complaint seriously.
Have a great day ahead of you and thank you for choosing eBay Mick. We also wish you success in your future transactions.
Sincerely,
Aria A.

I have also received a compensation amount of only 10dollars.

2 email sent, with slightly more aggressive tone to it. I await the reply.
Basically mixed two of your replies together to make one big aggressive stand.
See what happens.

[megatexture]

UPDATE TIME MOFOS!!!!

I'm getting my $43 lightbar...apparently.

"Hello,
Thank you for your reply,i am sorry for late as just coming back to work in the morning.
We totally understand your feeling,but item sold out too quickly by that low price,as we original don't have too many of this light in stock,and sent most of them to our Australia warehouse,now after we arranged some of the shipments from Chinese factory,here also out of stock,which the factory has been already starting to plan producing this item.which might take a little time around one month to produce out.
Would you mind waiting?
I am really really sorry for all the trouble caused and waiting for your reply
Best regards
Carcamworld2012"

This comes after sending them three messages last night calling there 'no more stock' email i crock of sh1t (in nicer words) and sending them a link to their other auctions for the exact same light bar apparently ex sydney (for $242 or something)

Does this mean I believe they're actually going to send it?
HELL NOOOOO!!!

I now think they're probably going using this bullsh1t story about waiting on the factory in china to 'produce more' then +15-21 days postage or whatever rubbish they'll claim to be to get past the 45 day limit of paypals claim dispute. humm... (i can hear the 'get smart' music playing in my head)
At any rate, this is the first positive email i've received from them, so am replying to it positively, see i have a nice streak, i'm not always a mean basted.

your next email will say that the wait for the bar will be too long and they are better off refunding the bar so you can purchase from another seller with stock ... thats what i got after your current one

[jc84]

I have emailed back to say I will accept their offer of refund +15.
Not really interested in sending them broke.

Each to their own, but food for thought.

How much do you think they actually pay for these lightbars, they probably order one or two hundred at a time via alibaba or similar. I'd be really surprised if they're paying over the Chinese equivalent $120 AUD each delivered to an australian warehouse, assuming they even have one.

Assuming they do actually send a Lightbar, who knows if they actually will, they might be out of pocket ~$120 for the bar and ~$30 postage from china? so all up around $150? be a fair guess.

Now they have around the 10500 feedback in 27 months, so about 389 items a month.

if they're paying ~ 150 to get one of these bars to australia and they're selling them for $242 with free freight, that's a 38% GP minimum (remember some of the advertivments have the same bar for $400+. A pretty freaking healthy GP anyway. So lets say the average price of the total of item's they've sold has been $30, they've pocketed $11.50 of that $30 as profit. 11.50 X 389 = $4473 / month cleared. Above average australian wage, but well above average wage in china as its around $AUD7573 per year. Guessing the average australian makes $40,000/year, old mate in china is making the australian equilivant to $AUD 283,512 per year.

Of course none of this assumes there may be more then one person working for carscamsalehacker2012 or whatever he's called, and I took guesses on a fair amount of these figures, however I feel these average prices would be pretty accurate, so the final figure should only vary 10-20% at absolute most.

So like I said, each to their own and I have absolutly no issue with anyone getting their money back... Butttttt if you truly didn't want to hurt his GP, should have just taken your $43 back, not the extra $15 as well?

[jc84]

your next email will say that the wait for the bar will be too long and they are better off refunding the bar so you can purchase from another seller with stock ... thats what i got after your current one

SSSSSSHHHHHHHIIIIIITTTTTT, haha I was almost getting my hopes up.

[Rickie3]

You wont get the lights at all for that price, its a typo error and legally seller doesnt have do compensate anything, besides whats to compensate? all the seller is obliged to do is issue a full refund!

[Winnie]

I would be very surprised if they are even making 10% GP on this really. It's such a flooded market and would be so cut throat... selling for $229 I wouldn't think they'd pay much less that $210 if any.

[jc84]

Not according to ebay's policies?

You don't have to accept a refund, once you commit to buy you have a contract with the seller, once the seller is paid he has an obligation to send goods that match the description.

Yes ebay can't physically force them to send anything, but if they don't ebay can stop them from selling, it's called a seller non-conformance. :)

But I do agree they don't have to add compensation, but they're doing that to sweeten the deal so they don't either have to; 1 send product, or 2 suffer the repercussions of ebay's wrath.

[Dhuck]

I still want my bar. I still have hopes with my perseverance.

[jc84]

I would be very surprised if they are even making 10% GP on this really. It's such a flooded market and would be so cut throat... selling for $229 I wouldn't think they'd pay much less that $210 if any.

Fair call, I'll make an alibaba account and ask a few wholesalers about pricing on 200 off 50" 300W lightbars FOB china.
Not that I am doubting your guesstimation, as I have really no idea, but would like to have at least some vague idea on what they wholesale for.
will report back with any info worthy of interest.



I still want my bar. I still have hopes with my perseverance.

Didn't william wallace say "They can take our lightbar, but they'll never take our moneyyyyy*!!"

*unless a claim is lodged after the 45 day cutoff period.

[Dhuck]

I'll try to hang out till then. I will just spam them. lol

[megatexture]

I wonder if they will throw in a wiring loom and relay also.

[meh]

Ive had a couple of emails back and forth, I havent threatened anything and have just asked for a different light bar in replace of the 52" as they have run out of that stock. They seem quite helpful at the moment so I could hopefully have myself two shiney new light bars soon enough :)

[jc84]

Nice idea Meh
hopefully they don't limit your choice to little 8" ones or something. Will have to re-check out the store to see what others they offer....unless they're hacked prices as well....

[Bloodyaussie]

Ive had a couple of emails back and forth, I havent threatened anything and have just asked for a different light bar in replace of the 52" as they have run out of that stock. They seem quite helpful at the moment so I could hopefully have myself two shiney new light bars soon enough :)

This is exactly what I have done...

[threedogs]

I have a re-sellers price list here from China, he would have to have a lot of 52" bars to get them for $220
Price wise its on the more watts you buy the cheaper it will be, can't see him having 300 in stock,
just not feezable, I received a full refund from the dude, the person who made the typo is now not working
I"d imagine

[P4trol]

Here's some fun.

You know how we each bought a bar, and it said the Australian warehouse said it had stock? When a bar was bought it modifies the listing. You can see each time the listing is modified. Match that up with your time of purchase.

And see how far back that it is only the quantity in stock that has changed, vs a change of price.

[MudRunnerTD]

Here's some fun.

You know how we each bought a bar, and it said the Australian warehouse said it had stock? When a bar was bought it modifies the listing. You can see each time the listing is modified. Match that up with your time of purchase.

And see how far back that it is only the quantity in stock that has changed, vs a change of price.


Yes I was watching the listing and the seller was continually updating the listing throughout the night and the only change was to the quantity available. I can't imagine that that was an auto update setting??. I even commented on that earlier in the thread. I was surprised at that time that they had updated the quantity but had not bothered to review the listing?? Just jumped on the sales excitedly.


I have not sent any further emails but will sit here for a day or so and let it play out. Not a fan of ripping anyone off by any stretch but regardless of the math, if this guy is a Chinese Seller trading on eBay.au it is very very likely that he is buying direct from the factory and probably paying $50 a unit. I doubt very much that this error has him on his knees. The potential for him to get dumped by eBay though is a much greater problem.