What Oil Do You Use for Diesel Engines?

[Mark]

Ive been using Shell Rimula X 15W/40 for my GU Diesel.

Can anyone recommend any other's.

I do a lot of highway driving for long long periods and looking at changing to something to suit that if there out there?

I heard Top Dog SL diesel oil was the go for what I was doing but would appreciate any feedback.

Cheers.

[Maxhead]

I've tried a few and Dello 400 is by far the best IMO

[aussi1170]

i have only recently got my gu 3.0td and i was told to only use nissan oil as other oils can cause turbo to lunch it self through the motor

[YNOT]

Welcome to the forum aussi1170.

I use Caltex Delo 400 15W40 multigrade in my 3.0td Patrol. If you want this oil, get it from a depot not a retailer or servo. Depots sell it for about half the price of the retailers.

Tony

[GQ4.2]

I bought a 20L drum of Dello 400 the other day fro $120, hell of alot cheaper than buying 5L bottles at repco etc

I've also tried Castrol Magnatec Diesel, which seemed to be ok

[Maxhead]

www.luesonline.com.au is where I get mine from. under $100 delivered to your door.

[Ducks]

www.luesonline.com.au is where I get mine from. under $100 delivered to your door.

Delo 400 in my 3.0td Patrol.
Before my Dealer was using Castrol Magnatech instead of Nissians recomended blend.
When asked why they replied cheaper...hence they no longer service my vehicle anymore..

I switched to Delo 400 as many forum members on most sites highly recomended it.
It has been the best so far...
cheers

[patch697]

XP super is a widely used diesel oil by the transport industry & thay don't much about when it comes to lubes.

[Finly Owner]

Welcome to the forum aussi1170.

I use Caltex Delo 400 15W40 multigrade in my 3.0td Patrol. If you want this oil, get it from a depot not a retailer or servo. Depots sell it for about half the price of the retailers.

Tony
Hey Tony who do you use to get it from in what size and how much mate?

[Ducks]

Hi Plas, just my 2 cents worth,

I use the Delo 400 as it best suit the climate as I am up in the Pilbara in WA with regular high temps and want to avoid any sooting of the oil.
Previous oils were based on general consensus from other 3.0lt Patrol users but most blokes up here swear by it hence the change.

Ages ago I blocked the EGR valve and I have since noticed that I do not have the build up in the intake butterfly valve that used to be there.
My engine is not noisey at start up and the turbo sounds sweet for a 2000 model GU.

As a maint Fitter I am very particular with my servicing and generally dont do things by halves.
5000ks are my service intervals and at around $100 for oil it is cheap insurance.
cheers

[jase]

Hi all,

I use 2 x 5L engine oil and a new filter from Nissan and change every 5,000km in my GU IV 3L.

[troys 2.8gu]

Hi,
I use Penrite 15/50 Semi syn in my old 2.8 and she's changed every 5000km on the dot or before.

[89GQ]

Delo 400 and filters every 5000 K's. Sh'es on 300.000 k's, and probably uses 200ml between changes.

[Mr Toby]

another vote for delo 400

[Stewart]

Delo 400 again, meets JASO-DH1 which I think is a Nissan specification for oil used in the ZD30?

[Chaz]

I’ve been using Mobil1 in 5W50 for the last 100K with a splash of AW10 at 10K intervals. There’s a noticeable improvement in the reduction of cold engine noise but it comes at a cost. Also running some 2T oil in the diesel fuel improved IP noise.

[TOECUTTER]

TRied different brands of oils. At the moment using Nulon 15 40. Sounds sweet and purrs like a kitten. ZD 30

[bartoni79]

yep agree on the castol oil

[89GQ]

I’ve been using Mobil1 in 5W50 for the last 100K with a splash of AW10 at 10K intervals. There’s a noticeable improvement in the reduction of cold engine noise but it comes at a cost. Also running some 2T oil in the diesel fuel improved IP noise.That 2T's the go hey!!!!!!

[Chaz]

That 2T's the go hey!!!!!!

Yep, good stuff. I've been using it for over a year now and very impressed. You sure notice the difference when you don't use it, particularly when the engine is cold.

[89GQ]

Yep, good stuff. I've been using it for over a year now and very impressed. You sure notice the difference when you don't use it, particularly when the engine is cold.Iv'e been lucky with the economy as well,alot havn't but i get an extra 100-150ks a tank.And thats filling at the same bowser with and without! Love It!!!!

[Chaz]

Iv'e been lucky with the economy as well,alot havn't but i get an extra 100-150ks a tank.And thats filling at the same bowser with and without! Love It!!!!

That's great, I haven't noticed any change in performance or economy, just smoother and quieter running. I think it's worth the outlay compared to other additives. I occasionally add a bit of FTC Decarboniser also.

[89GQ]

That's great, I haven't noticed any change in performance or economy, just smoother and quieter running. I think it's worth the outlay compared to other additives. I occasionally add a bit of FTC Decarboniser also.Whats that? also have you used any of the tank cleaners

[Chops]

Heard a story last year from an "Old Timer" who used Valvoline in his Cruiser, much to his disgust. Unfortunately that was all he could get on the road, I cant remember the whole story, but I do remember not to use Valvoline Diesel oil.

[Chaz]

Whats that? also have you used any of the tank cleaners

I haven’t needed to use any tank cleaners yet. I do run a sedimenter before the factory filter though.

FTC Decarboniser (http://www.costeffective.com.au/ftc_decarboniser.php) is good to use if you do a lot of idling. It helps to deglaze the cylinders and reduce carbon build up on the ring lands.

[89GQ]

I haven’t needed to use any tank cleaners yet. I do run a sedimenter before the factory filter though.

FTC Decarboniser (http://www.costeffective.com.au/ftc_decarboniser.php) is good to use if you do a lot of idling. It helps to deglaze the cylinders and reduce carbon build up on the ring lands.Might give that a go. It was a good read. Might make the old tractor TD42 go abit faster.

[nickpeacock36]

I just had a look on the lubesonline site. wish i saw the post before i paid $74 for 2x5L of Penrite.


www.luesonline.com.au is where I get mine from. under $100 delivered to your door.

[OVER.THE.HILL]

dello 200 for me ,engine running much sweeter.
delivered to door from lubesonline.
2004 zd30 tddi. 150000 ks.
roy.

[Spoons]

Just started using Bimrose oils. A good QLD company based in Rockhampton. Engine oil is 15W40 (I think - would have to look it up). 10L = $80 odd. Very well recommended. Also using Decorbonizer, Cleanfuel (?) and Oil Flush from CEM. Very impressed so far. Got about 11 1/2 L out of the sump when I used the engine flush. Engine is much more responsive and feels like it wants to pull from lower revs. Much quiter too.

[Tracy]

I've been using durablend for 3 years and have found that it removes most of the engine noise at start up and it is easy to get mostly any where so you can keep to the one type of oil...

[DX grunt]

With tongue in cheek, I say, "I don't know". I trust the mechanic.

[mike]

penzoil always every 5000kms always have always will

Cheers Mike

[MADCOW]

Not one mention of Castrol Rx7. I've always used in the 4.2 and never had any issues. They are all good if changed regularly. Probably the main issue especially with the older style motors is too thin an oil might affect gaskets!

[mudduck]

I tried Fuchs and mine did NOT like it, but runs like a champ on valvoline.

[Dark 1]

Have always used penrite in other deisels but the previous owner of my gu had used castrol gtx so i thought best to keep with it. No problems & fair priced.

[TheFlyingBadger]

is the delo400 OK for the CRD, or is it pickier with oil?

[TheFlyingBadger]

$99 for 20l of delo 400 from caltex on Balcatta Rd. They wanted $110, but I talked (without much effort) her into a 10% discount. Not the cheapest that anyone has managed, but not too shabby.

Oil change all done now (and tires rotated as well)

[big_fletch]

I just swapped from valvoline super diesel 15w40 to dello 400 after alot of the talk on here about it, definitely a little quieter then it was, I do oil every 5000km.. also had some notchyness in the gearbox when changing gears (I have a manual) and I put in Castrol vmx-m after the recommendations I received about it.. highly recommend it, gearbox is smooth as silk now
:smiley_thumbs_up:
Fletcha

[wogboy]

Oh thanks it's lubesonline. I was trying NissPat link http://www.luesonline.com.au/

[szaf]

Hi I want to change my oil in my 3 ltr diesel every 5000 Klms instead of a dealer doing it what is the best - price no object - but smooth running and fuel comsumption a priority Thanks Paul

[szaf]

Does the oil for the engine also lubricates the manual trans in 3 L turbo diesel Newbee Paul

[TheFlyingBadger]

Caltex Delo 400 - about $90 for 20l (2 and a bit changes). budget about $35 for a filter.

[szaf]

$35 for an oil filter? for my commodore $5 supercheap

[TheFlyingBadger]

$35 for an oil filter? for my commodore $5 supercheap


your commodore can't climb rocks though

[Col.T]

Got a ZD30 CRD and just bought 40l of Caltex Delo 400 Multigrade. Suggest you make sure you check when you buy though as the Delo 400 comes in several types.
If you check the specifications in the workshop manual, it's only the Multigrade which meets Mr. Nissan's requirements. In among the intergalactic 'Performance Characteristics' he specifies are CF-4, CF and JASO DH-1 all with viscosity 5W-30 if you're opeating in -30C up to 40C OR 15W-40 for a temp. range of -15C up to 40+C.. These are detailed in the latest supplement for the CRD engine.
In Adelaide, the Lubesonline doesn't seem to work or at least not from my computer. Seems Caltex do their own thing (here at least).
Got my oil at $100 per 20l. tins from the Caltex agent who's listed in the 'phone book under Caltex but titles himself as 'Adelaide fuel distributors'. Much cheaper than the "cheap' auto parts floggers and of course the Caltex servos are too busy unloading everything from trans fats to condoms to sell what we want.
Gave the wagon new filters and a dose of the 2T with this oil and all seems well
Good thred this, goes forever doesn't it.
Col

[oglenelgo]

FOUND THIS ON ANOTHER SITE INTERESTING READ
Below is a copy of a copy of a supposed Nissan Publication. I cannot give any assurance it is correct so I am not responsible it is it BS.

Bulletin No: MAO4-001
Re: Revised Engine Oil Specification
Applied Model: Y61 & D22
Applied range: ZD3O Engines

Please be advised that the specification for the 011 fill on the ZD30 has been revised. Engine Oils that meet the specification listed below are the only oils that are permitted for use in the ZD30 Engine. 011 Specification: ACEA 83 or JASO DH.1. Nissan strongly recommend that a viscosity rating of 10W40 be used. For specific viscosity relating to ambient temperature ranges please refer to the viscosity chart in the relevant workshop manual.

Note: API CG-4 0118 must never be used In the ZD30 engine.
To support the revision in oil specification, Nissan has developed a
semi-synthetic 10W-40 engine oil that meets all the operational demands of this engine. The revision of the new oil specification is retrospective and will apply to all ZD30 engines.

The oil will be available from Nissan Parts & Accessories in 51t and 200lt Quantities using the following part numbers.
51t- B3005-10W40PK
2001t- B3200..10W40PK

Authorised by:
R Bahn
Manager. Engineering Support
National Service & Engineering Department

NISSAN MOTOR GO.
Locked Bag 1450. Dandenong South, VIC, :3154 Phone. (03) 97974111 Fax. (03) 97974400

PLEASE NOTE
This bulletin does not mention engine oil and filter change frequency.
On page 8-5 of my owners manual engine oil and filter changes are specified for every 15,000kms. On page 8-7 under Severe Conditions it specifies engine oil and filter changes every 7,500 kms.

A mechanic told me that Nissan had issued advice reducing the 15,000 km or 7,500 kms engine oil and filter changes to 10,000 kms or 5,000 kms for severe conditions.

He definitely didn't like the Nissan ZD30 engine or any Nissan for that matter. He defined severe conditions as all normal Australian motoring. He ( cynically? ) suggested something like the idea that in the case of the ZD30 engine, 10,000 kms may be ok if;

- the vehicle was driven constantly for 10,000 kms unloaded;
- never stopped;
- on flat bitumen road;
- engine never exceeded 2,200 RPM or idled more than 30 seconds each hour, and;
- outside air temperature constantly between 15 and 20 degrees C.

Anything different must be considered severe for the ZD30.

[Col.T]

To 'O Glenelg O'
Two points
1) I know Glenelg is a burb of my home town but who actually are you? Do you have a name to sign off on?
2) love your post. Everyone likes what is good by their own experience, but getting down to the guts of Mr.Nissan and his missives to the galaxy with specs. etc. is what it's all about .
API CG4 is an oil which is specifically excluded in the updates I mentioned above but the other grades besides JASO DH-1 are quite clearly included as acceptable.
We have a slight problem in that there are no dates for your reports from Mr.Nissan. My latest data is dated Jan. 2007 and at that date the oil changes are still at 15000K for 'normal' use or "more frequently' if under 'severe conditions'.
To coin a phrase, what the hell is severe. One persons definition may well differ from another but I like to be conservative and go for safe.
Perhaps the mechanic you mention is a Toyota man.
It's interesting when you look back through this thread to see the number of members who go for the 5000k change . Reckon they'll never go wrong.
Anyway, thanks for the comments
Col.

[oglenelgo]

sorry i will update when i get my new laptop my 100kg mastiff took a chunk out of the keyboard and the trusty phones dosnt work to well with the nett. I agree 5000km oil changes the go. Cheers Brian

[indigothecat]

$99 for 20l of delo 400 from caltex on Balcatta Rd. They wanted $110, but I talked (without much effort) her into a 10% discount. Not the cheapest that anyone has managed, but not too shabby.

Oil change all done now (and tires rotated as well)

Thanks for the tip Jon, may wander down to see if discount still available.

I do have a newbie question about Engine oil flushes as our Patrol is pushing 140K km's and wonder with what if any regularity it is used. Each oil change or every 10K km's?

Thanks J

[Jarodl27]

Penrite HPR for me

[HippoNZ]

I use Fuchs heavy duty diesel oil and its also a synthetic oil aswell, apparantly you can get a lot more k's on the highway with the stuff, 8-10000kms I was told. However if 4wding I would still prefer to change every 5000kms. But sinceI've been running this oil the engine sounds smoother and quiter. Thats my 2 cents anyway

[Black Rock]

Here in Europe services prefers oil change depend on European emission standards (Euro 3, Euro 4 or Euro5)

5W - 40 full synthetic on new engines for highway up to 100 000 km (every 15 000 km or one year whatever come first )
10W - 40 semi-synthetic on new engines for city's and normal use up to 120 000 km - 150 000 km (every 10 000 km or one year whatever come first )
15W - 40 mineral for engines over 150 000 (every 5 000 km )
And yes - there is the drivers who they driving a car less then 15 000 km per year - then the one year rule coming up.
Is not bad to check the date of production of lubricant you are using.
:xxxx:

[Boagie]

i have always used penrite----plasnart reckons his smoked more on it???????????????---my old chook has 245000 on it and runs penrite and the only smoke it puffs is the little diesel puff they all do when first started.being a pedantic mother i am,i will use delo 400 next change ---if anyone can give me a good reason to!!!!!!!!!!

[j_jtaylor]

Dunno what I had in the troll when I bought but I put Penrite HPR last change and Im sure its a bit noisier, will be putting Delo 400 in it before I head north...

[xamrab]

Plasnart, you say you used Rimkula X. Which one. I have access to Rimula X 15W40.

Max

[blake_gq4.2]

penrite hpr diesel, it used to love my gu 2.8, never gave me problems, changed it every 5000kms, cheers blake

[vingen]

I use cheep oil but change it often. Multi 10/40

[Sunexim]

Demand for Caltex Delo 400 . Always get from the whole-seller. Then you can say that you get the real engines.If Delo 400 is not available then you can go with any other caltex product but ask if it is useful for your vehicle or not.

[kumarST]

x2 for delo 400

[snicko]

I use the genune nissan oil as the 4bee has only done 50,000km (4yrs old). At what k's do you change?

[TheFlyingBadger]

I use the genune nissan oil as the 4bee has only done 50,000km (4yrs old). At what k's do you change?

every 5000Km

[snicko]

every 5000Km

Sorry I mean how many on the clock

[TheFlyingBadger]

Sorry I mean how many on the clock

oh, yeah - so you did! I've only done 11000Km, and i'm on my second lot of delo (changed myself at 5K and supplied oil for 10K service)

[philmar]

Thought you guys like to know of my recent experience with Caltex.
My GU 3.0 is currently running Magnatex with no problems, but as there have been somany recommendations
for Delo 400 I decided to go to the Caltex Depot myself and check it out. The price was right
$95.00 for 20 litres, but I asked the obvious question of the agent. Is it right for my vehicle?
After some checking on the computer data base and a call to head office the consensus
was that it is not suitable as it conforms to CG4, which I believe the Zinc content can damage
the catalytic converter, and there appeared to be some doubt as to the lubricating demands
of the ZD30. The end result was that they recommended Havoline semi-syn, which is a
Caltex product as well So I left confused. I went to Autobarn next and they more or less
said anything that conforms to CF4 is o/k to use including GTX3, I sincerely doubt I would
ever concider putting that in my ZD30.
So as it happens Repco had a sale on Magnatec, 10 litres for $62.95. That will have to do until I can get
more clarification.
These engines are far too finicky and costlt to take too many risks with, particularly oils. I change oil & filter every 5k's
and feel as confident as I can with Magnatec.

GU111 2002 95k's.

Phil.

[Chaz]

Thought you guys like to know of my recent experience with Caltex.
My GU 3.0 is currently running Magnatex with no problems, but as there have been somany recommendations
for Delo 400 I decided to go to the Caltex Depot myself and check it out. The price was right
$95.00 for 20 litres, but I asked the obvious question of the agent. Is it right for my vehicle?
After some checking on the computer data base and a call to head office the consensus
was that it is not suitable as it conforms to CG4, which I believe the Zinc content can damage
the catalytic converter, and there appeared to be some doubt as to the lubricating demands
of the ZD30. The end result was that they recommended Havoline semi-syn, which is a
Caltex product as well So I left confused. I went to Autobarn next and they more or less
said anything that conforms to CF4 is o/k to use including GTX3, I sincerely doubt I would
ever concider putting that in my ZD30.
So as it happens Repco had a sale on Magnatec, 10 litres for $62.95. That will have to do until I can get
more clarification.
These engines are far too finicky and costlt to take too many risks with, particularly oils. I change oil & filter every 5k's
and feel as confident as I can with Magnatec.

GU111 2002 95k's.

Phil.

Hi Phil,

While I personally haven’t used Delo400, I have done some research on it and I think the info you have is wrong. The Caltex site say’s that Delo400 Multigrade is API CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, SL, SH, ACEA E7 or JASO DH-1. It also say’s “Also for Euro 4 compliant vehicles, except those units fitted with diesel particulate filters and requiring ACEA E6 oils” which makes it ideal for the ZD30.

Having said that, I think Castrol Magnatec in 10W40 is an excellent choice and possibly the better choice in a colder climate. The Magnatec has a 40c cSt of 102, which makes it a bit thinner than the Delo’s 125 cSt at 40c for cold start viscosity. At operating temperature, they are too close to call, the Magnatec has a cSt of 14.5 at 100c and the Delo thins down to a cSt of 15.1, so not much in it.

To sum it up, if you were to choose between the two, I’d use the Magnatec in a cooler climate and the Delo if it was hotter weather, but they should both be suitable for the ZD30 Patrol. Personally, I use Mobil1 in 5W50, but will soon be changing over to Penrite SIN 0W50.

GUIII 2002 165K's
Chaz

[Col.T]

Chaz
good reply.
The Castrol Delo 400 Multi (not any other Delo) is certainly recommended for the CRD ZD30.
I think if you meet the specs. from Nissan you wont go wrong and I also suspect that the later model 'non grenade' ZDs are a more reliable motor and will do a longer run between services.
We maybe shouldn't get too passionate about what make oil if they all meet the specs. and I'm thinking somewhere between the good old 5K. for oil and filter changes and the new numbers may well work.
Will we ever know?
Regards
Col

[scrubrat]

I'm using Magnatec 10W40 in my 2004 ZD30. I notice a lot of you use Delo 400 which i beleive is 15W40. I'm in Kalgoorlie where the weather is pretty warm most of the year round.What grade do you guys suggest to use for the warmer climate.

Cheers
Gary

[Chaz]

I'm using Magnatec 10W40 in my 2004 ZD30. I notice a lot of you use Delo 400 which i beleive is 15W40. I'm in Kalgoorlie where the weather is pretty warm most of the year round.What grade do you guys suggest to use for the warmer climate.

Cheers
Gary

Gary,

I wouldn’t be too concerned with the manufacturers “W” rating because there is no real standard for it. In some cases you will find a 15W oil to be thinner than a 10W oil between different manufacturers. Check the cSt ratings on the oils spec sheets to get an accurate idea on a particular oils viscosity because there is a standard between manufacturers in this case where they must quote cSt levels at 40 and 100 degrees Celsius (cold start and operating temps). Delo 400 Multigrade would be ideal in your case, particularly if you do a lot of highway driving.

[scrubrat]

Thanks for the info Chaz. Next oil change I might give Delo 400 Multigrade a go. It seems to be a popular choice among the ZD30 owners,so it must be good.

Cheers
Gary

[cossy]

Hi all i got delo 400 today wow $85 for 20 l $86 for filters oil and fuel littel job this weekend thanks ynot oil from rocklea QLD

[Col.T]

Hi all i got delo 400 today wow $85 for 20 l $86 for filters oil and fuel littel job this weekend thanks ynot oil from rocklea QLD
Cossy,
being from Sth. Oz. I'm a bit slow so you'll understand my confusion. 85 bucks for oil and 86 for filters seems weird.
Gotta say though the oil price seems bloody brilliant. Maybe should move up your way although I did prefer a bit further North up in the Iron Range area.
All the best from down South
Col

[lg 91]

dello 400 for me

[cossy]

filters were from Nissan oil and fuel I will need to get a air filter to finsh

[snake1978]

valvoline super diesel

[snake1978]

was told alot of the synthetic oils cause glazing, but had no dramas with super diesel
but always willing to try new things, ill give the dello 400 a shot next time
valvoline............. you know what i mean

[Baron]

I was using Mobil Delvac 1 up until 20,000km's and then switched to Caltex Delo 400. I haven't looked back, the engine seems to love the stuff. I have just clocked up 52,000km's and the top of the head still looks like new. Castrol J-Max would be my second choice as it's also a really good oil for Japanese engines. Cheers.

[Col.T]

was told alot of the synthetic oils cause glazing, but had no dramas with super diesel
but always willing to try new things, ill give the dello 400 a shot next time
valvoline............. you know what i mean
Snakey
reckon advertising works two ways. Anything to do with Mr. Valvoline ( know what I mean) is totally out of my buying bag.
If they have to buy his honest opinion, (the more they pay, the more honest?????) reckon the product isn't what I want.
Plenty of unpaid, experienced opinions on sites like this which I'd rather rely on.
All the best
Col.

[Boagie]

every 5000k

[AB]

www.luesonline.com.au is where I get mine from. under $100 delivered to your door.

Hey Kris, has this guy shutdown now?

I'm about to do Bluey's first service and would like to use Delo 400 but for the life of me I cannot find any suppliers around here!!!!

Even the main oil supplier in Bayswater doesn;t have it...GRR!!!!!

Does anyone else buy engine oil online?

[-ET 4wd-]

I have read through most of this thread, but im not 100% sure if these recomendations also refer to the TD42-T
I really havent found a oil i like, ive tried Magnatech and Nulon and im a bit ho-hum about both of them.
any heads-up would be good!

Steve.

[suvrd28]

Hi i use penrite, seems to be good

[suvrd28]

Hi i use penrite seems to be good, i have tried nulon and engine was louder

[Bagheera]

Hey Kris, has this guy shutdown now?
I went into the store to pick mine up. $89.90 for 20L of Dello 400. Girls there said the online store is gone. Freight headaches and Caltex resellers getting upset with being undersold.

Have to say the GU seems to love the 400. Much quieter since the oil change.

[Benno7]

I use castrol jmax in my truck (isuzu) and in my GQ. I get it for $65 20L but I buy 10 drums at a time (20L = 1 service on the truck).

[AB]

I went into the store to pick mine up. $89.90 for 20L of Dello 400. Girls there said the online store is gone. Freight headaches and Caltex resellers getting upset with being undersold.

Have to say the GU seems to love the 400. Much quieter since the oil change.

Bummer, thanks for letting me know!

[frenzy]

Straight off the caltex website (http://www.caltex.com.au/ProductsAndServices/Lubricants/Pages/OilFinder.aspx) tonight:

NISSAN (Includes DATSUN)
Patrol GU-IV 4x4, ZD30 DOHC Turbo Diesel, Auto (2004-2006)

Crankcase
HAVOLINE SYNTHETIC BLEND
Service Refill Capacity: 8.2* Litres (See Note 240)

Automatic Transmission
TEXAMATIC 1888 or HAVOLINE ATF-J
Service Refill Capacity: 11.8 Litres (See Note 13)

Differential
GEAR OIL LSD 140
Service Refill Capacity: 2.1-4.7 Litres (See Note 15)

Power Steering
TEXAMATIC 1888 or HAVOLINE ATF-J

4WD Transfer
TEXAMATIC 1888 or HAVOLINE ATF-J
Service Refill Capacity: 1.9 Litres (See Note 218)

4WD Differential
THUBAN GL5 EP 80W-90
Service Refill Capacity: 5.4 Litres

NOTES
* Includes Oil Filter
13 Dry fill capacity shown, fill only to full mark.
15 Rear differential.
218 Use only Nissan approved ATF. May also use EASYSHIFT SAE 75W-90. Do NOT mix fluid types.
240 CG4 oils must NOT be used. Semi-synthetic 10W-40 grade recommended by manufacturer.

Cheers,
Steve

[Arwon]

Using Nissan oil every 5k. Tried full syn but motor sounded louder, think I'll give Delo 400 multi ago next time.


Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse the spelling.

[boots]

Hey AB how have you gone getting some oil ?

[philws]

Does anyone know a supplier for the delo 400 in melb?

[AB]

Hi Boots and Phil, hopeless mate.

I have tried everywhere and had no success in Delo 400.

I can get it in smaller bottles and can get it at normal servos, etc or possibly even Repco, etc but they charge like a wounded bull.

If anyone finds a place down here then I would to know too!!!

[AB]

Just got a message from Roofy...

Looks like caltex dept warragul has 20lt delo400 $90
56-235-733

[Sir Roofy]

just got a message from roofy...

Looks like caltex dept warragul has 20lt delo400 $90
56-235-733


try caltex dept at hampton park sth gippy hwy

[boots]

Good onya roofy thats the depot I was going to mention . last 20 lt drum I got was from the caltex servo / depot at alexandra $98 . it is truely
great stuff for the zd30 . jmo .

[Sir Roofy]

Good onya roofy thats the depot I was going to mention . last 20 lt drum I got was from the caltex servo / depot at alexandra $98 . it is truely
great stuff for the zd30 . jmo .

the office girl at warragul said $90 when i said that another place daid $92 she laughed and said no its only $90 and as many as you want
so i hope its about the same at hampton park

[anwarg]

I have a similar question, What oil do you use on a GU-Ti 4500 engine as well as the transmission?

[Trev62]

Well said Col

[Bucky]

I havent had any issues with with rx super 15w40 in my TD42T

[paps01]

www.luesonline.com.au is where I get mine from. under $100 delivered to your door.

NissPat, Can't find this web site. Can you confirm it is correct/ Paps.

[buzz]

NissPat, Can't find this web site. Can you confirm it is correct/ Paps.

i think it was supposed to be 'lubesonline' mate, but i believe the site has been closed for a number of months now.

jamie

[paps01]

Thanks. I'm having trouble finfing a Caltex Depot in Melb's eastern suburbs as well. Ant ideas?

[Sir Roofy]

thanks. I'm having trouble finfing a caltex depot in melb's eastern suburbs as well. Ant ideas?

try the caltex dept on the sth gippy hwy
hampton park

[Guido]

I've always used Magnatech 10W-40 - though in the neat future I'll be trying the Diesel 15w-40

[archiem31]

i also use \Shell Rimula X 15W/40 for my GU Diesel. didnt give me problems so far

[teleman]

My Mechanic uses BP oils and recommends them for the 3.0liter Patrol. Im telling ya guys, the car runs like a dream on BP. Ive been through mobil, caltex and shell oils, and none of them come close to how well the car drives with BP. :)

[paps01]

try the caltex dept on the sth gippy hwy
hampton park
Cheers Roofy. Paps.

[Maxhead]

My Mechanic uses BP oils and recommends them for the 3.0liter Patrol. Im telling ya guys, the car runs like a dream on BP. Ive been through mobil, caltex and shell oils, and none of them come close to how well the car drives with BP. :)


What BP stuff??

Is it the Castrol Edge 5W-30 fully synthetic. I've used it before and yeah, its not too bad

[Tenchy202]

ive always used penrite hpr 5 diesel ....expensive but good

[PMC]

G,day folks,

I use AMSOIL Full Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil in conjunction with a Franz oil bypass system. I have used this system for 11 years with my old GQ,GU 4.2 Turbo diesels, D22 Navara and currently with my D40 2.5 manual diesel Navara.

The 0il is lot more expensive, however oil change intervals is at 20,000 ks. Durring 20,000ks, I use a test kit to check oil every 5,000ks whilst replacing the oil bypass filter. I change main oil filter at 10,000 ks. When changing oil filters i just top up the oil that' required usually half a litre. Even at 20,000ks my oil test results still advise that the oil is Ok.

The reason why i use Amsoil is due to towing a camper trailer and boat up and down beaches and some of the serious tracks my mates and i use on the weekends at Coffs Harbour.

The Navaras both the 3 lt and 2.5 litre engines produce exsesive heat under load, it is impertive to use an engine oil than can help disapate the heat and maintain engine performance.

With my recent purchase of my 2002 Nissan Patrol ST 4.2 turbo diesel wagon, I will be transfering the Franz oil bypass system from my D40 Navara to the Patrol.

The following is a bio on Amsoil synthetic oils;

"First of all, let's take a brief look at the history of synthetic motor oil and its introduction to the marketplace. AMSOIL Inc. developed the first synthetic motor oil to meet API service requirements. Lieutenant Colonel Albert J. Amatuzio, President and CEO of AMSOIL Inc. witnessed synthetic lubricants in action as a jet fighter squadron commander. He noted that synthetic oils were developed for (and still are used exclusively in) aircraft jet engines because of their ability to reduce friction and wear on engine parts. This preformance was due to synthetic oil having incredible ability to function dependably at severe hot and cold temps as well as to withstand rigorous and lengthy engine operation without viscosity breakdown. This is critical in aircraft engine operation because, if oil breaks down at 30,000 feet, aircraft engines can fail and ... well, you get the picture. Amatuzio decided that he would develop synthetic motor oil to be used in automobiles for the same benefits. In 1972 AMSOIL introduced the first motor oil for automotive applications. In the early seventies, another company was also working on synthetic oil development for the automobile ... Mobil Oil Company. They came to market with synthetic motor oil in 1975. By the 1990's the other major oil companies added their synthetic oils to the marketplace, in addition to their petroleum-based products.

What are the pros and cons of using synthetic oil in my car?

Pros:

•It flows easier in cold weather, therefore no loss of prime when the oil is cold. Also, it is highly resistant to viscosity breakdown (the ability of the oil to flow easily in all temps) from heat, friction, chemical contaminants.

•Longer change intervals: 7,000 - 9,000 miles between oil changes (compared to 3,000 for regular oil). Some folks have documented up to 25K miles between changes. However, I would not advice going that long!

Cons:

• Cost is twice as much as conventional oil per litre. However it lasts longer, so the actual cost increase is closer to 50 - 60 percent.

•Flows easily, therefore not recommend for use on high mileage engines; nor do I recommend using it in new engines during the break-in period because it is so slippery and dramatically limits the wearing of new mating parts within the engine. This initial wearing of parts is what makes for proper engine break-in, sealing of piston rings, mating of camshafts and lifters, etc.

Does it make my engine last longer?

Yes, because its so slippery, synthetic makes for less engine wear and thus greater engine longevity."

PS, like anything in life, you must reseach the facts. Eliminate the 80% of bullshit to help obtain the 20% of facts. the 80/20 rule.

Regards

RLI
:bigthumbup:

[FullFlxd]

i wasnt going to quote that ahahahh,

wow you either love your oil and have done a lot of research, or you work for Amsoil.

Anyways I am going to change to Redline oil as a mate uses it in his. I have research it a fair bit and also expensive I think Auto one sell is for $130 for 3.8 ltrs. I figure if it's good enough for 4000hp dragsters its good enough for the ol' troll, she aint ever gong to fly.

They claim that their oil can last up to 40,000km. Mate had his test at 20,000km (non redline rep) and the fella told him it would be good for another 10 000km easy other wise he just tops up and changes filter.

[PMC]

i wasnt going to quote that ahahahh,

wow you either love your oil and have done a lot of research, or you work for Amsoil.

Anyways I am going to change to Redline oil as a mate uses it in his. I have research it a fair bit and also expensive I think Auto one sell is for $130 for 3.8 ltrs. I figure if it's good enough for 4000hp dragsters its good enough for the ol' troll, she aint ever gong to fly.

They claim that their oil can last up to 40,000km. Mate had his test at 20,000km (non redline rep) and the fella told him it would be good for another 10 000km easy other wise he just tops up and changes filter.

G,day Fullflxd,

I am a firm believer that you get what you pay for!

No, I do not have an affiliation with Amsoil. Yes, I have done much research over the years and many of the good fully synthetic oils today are all good.
Example; Castrol's new Edge with SPT synthetic oil, Hi-Tec oils, Mobil 1, Nulon Full Synthetic, Pennzoil Platinum, Redline, Royal Purple, Shell Rotella Full Synthetic Diesel, Tru-Blu Oils, etc, etc

Like you said, your mate tested his engines oil to see what the remaining longevity was, that is crucial.

Another reason I use fully synthetic diesel oil, is to help reduce friction between the working parts of the engine. This also helps to further the longevity of the motor! Like food, “you are what you eat” your motor is the same, what you feed it reflects its longevity and most importantly its performance.

PS, thats only my opinion!

Regards,

RLI

[FullFlxd]

Just pulling ya leg brother

[Wizard52]

Hi all

Read your post with interest.
Earlier in this thread it was mentioned how do you judge the oil.
My previous dealer uses Nissan 15-50 which we believe is a valvoline sourced product for the 3 lt and the mighty 4.2td in mine.
Now that I have moved north, I have been changing oil and filters myself using Penrite 15-50 and genuine filters. Spill heaps when removing filters from top.
How and where do do test the oil
cheers

[buzz]

Hi all

Read your post with interest.
Earlier in this thread it was mentioned how do you judge the oil.
My previous dealer uses Nissan 15-50 which we believe is a valvoline sourced product for the 3 lt and the mighty 4.2td in mine.
Now that I have moved north, I have been changing oil and filters myself using Penrite 15-50 and genuine filters. Spill heaps when removing filters from top.
How and where do do test the oil
cheers

http://www.e-monitor.com.au/

[buzz]

personally i like the peace of mind i get when changing oil and filters every 5000km. i had an analysis done 2 weeks ago after 4300km of outback QLD driving in mostly 40+ degrees and the test showed the delo 400 would have been good for a couple of thousand more km.

jamie

[Wizard52]

http://http://www.e-monitor.com.au/

Many thanks

[buzz]

no problem. i just fixed that link, i think it was a bit bodgey.

jamie

[Boomtiki]

Hi Plas, just my 2 cents worth,

I use the Delo 400 as it best suit the climate as I am up in the Pilbara in WA with regular high temps and want to avoid any sooting of the oil.
Previous oils were based on general consensus from other 3.0lt Patrol users but most blokes up here swear by it hence the change.

Ages ago I blocked the EGR valve and I have since noticed that I do not have the build up in the intake butterfly valve that used to be there.
My engine is not noisey at start up and the turbo sounds sweet for a 2000 model GU.

As a maint Fitter I am very particular with my servicing and generally dont do things by halves.
5000ks are my service intervals and at around $100 for oil it is cheap insurance.
cheers

Hey Ducks, I'm up in the pilbara also, Karratha, you seem to know your stuff about which oils to use, what do you recommend for a 2007 GU IV DX 3.0? I was at Repco today & they asked if I had a particulate filter on my car as it determines what oil I use. Without this particulate filter I apparently need to use some enviro oil which was pretty expensive, I said I didn't know what a particulate filter was let alone know if my rig had one & as I don't have a manual yet for my car I couldn't find out easily so I walked out empty handed. You mentioned sooting of the oil also, mines really black which is what prompted all this to begin with, do high ambient temps have something to do with it you think? Cheers mate, see you on the tracks.

[Chaz]

Boomtiki,

You don’t have a particulate filter, so you don’t need the Enviro oil. The reason you’re oil is so black is from EGR. You’ll see that people that say they block their EGR have much cleaner oil.

Delo400 is a good choice for the hotter climate that you are in, but it’s still only a semi synthetic. If you want the best, go fully synthetic, but if cost is an issue, the Delo is an excellent choice.

[lufkin]

i hear alot of people recommend delo 400, is that the same for a GU 2.8?

[45/70]

I just use the genuine Nissan oil for the zd30.
It is a semi-synthetic formulated by Shell and is supposed to have additives that help cool your pistons.
But then again, who as ever heard of pistons causing problems in zd30s ?:tease:

[chucky]

i use castrol rx super in 4.2td seems alright but the 3.0lt uses a different oil i'm told.

[Boagie]

One word gentlmen PENRITE....................................!!!!!!! !!!Never had problems with noisey start up ,blowing smoke,consumption,can't fault the stuff,and i have used it in every car i have owned

[Boomtiki]

I had a bit of a chat with some pretty helpful guys which you might want to read http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?9443-What-oil
Once again old mate NissPat is straight to the point with helpful info... Cheers Nisspat, I took the details of your supplier.

[Boomtiki]

Boomtiki,

You don’t have a particulate filter, so you don’t need the Enviro oil. The reason you’re oil is so black is from EGR. You’ll see that people that say they block their EGR have much cleaner oil.

Delo400 is a good choice for the hotter climate that you are in, but it’s still only a semi synthetic. If you want the best, go fully synthetic, but if cost is an issue, the Delo is an excellent choice.


Thanks Chaz, appreciate the info, I'm not concerned about price if I know I'm getting value for money, I'll definitly check out the synthetic option a bit more for my next purchase.

[Chaz]

Thanks Chaz, appreciate the info, I'm not concerned about price if I know I'm getting value for money, I'll definitly check out the synthetic option a bit more for my next purchase.
If you are considering a full synthetic oil, with or without EGR, I would first consider Penrite SIN 0W50 and my second choice would be Mobil1 in 5W50. Both exceptional oils for the ZD30 Patrol. They are both thinner cold, but don't get as thin when hot as the Delo400 or Castrol Magnatec.

[45/70]

Hi Chaz.
How much is Penrite sin 0w50 worth and do you think it would be a much better oil than the Nissan stuff?
I have used the nissan oil now for about 3 years and never had a prob but the price has gone up to about 63$ for 5lt so i thought if I could use a better oil for not too much more $$$ then I would change to Penrite.

Thanks mate.

Paul.

[Ben-e-boy]

Hi Chaz.
How much is Penrite sin 0w50 worth and do you think it would be a much better oil than the Nissan stuff?
I have used the nissan oil now for about 3 years and never had a prob but the price has gone up to about 63$ for 5lt so i thought if I could use a better oil for not too much more $$$ then I would change to Penrite.

Thanks mate.


Paul.

I ran penrite in my ute and it used a litre of oil every 2000kms, it lasted 2 services then I changed back to castrol/top dog (same stuff top dog is aussie made) and it stopped using oil.

[Chaz]

Hi Chaz.
How much is Penrite sin 0w50 worth and do you think it would be a much better oil than the Nissan stuff?
I have used the nissan oil now for about 3 years and never had a prob but the price has gone up to about 63$ for 5lt so i thought if I could use a better oil for not too much more $$$ then I would change to Penrite.

Thanks mate.

Paul.

Hi Paul,
Synthetic oils are far superior to any mineral or even semi synthetic oil available today. I haven’t found a semi synthetic that was as thin cold, but didn’t get much thinner than any fully synthetic when hot. I think the last time I bought Penrite SIN it was cheaper than Mobil1 at around $75 for 5litres.

Check out THIS (http://www.chaz.yellowfoot.org/Oil%20Tests.pdf) oil test!

[45/70]

Thanks Chaz, so are you using the SYNTHETIC 5 or the 0W50?
What change intervals do you recommend?
And did you have any oil usage issues like Ben-e-boy?

Is this it?

http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/engine-oils/hpr/hpr_5_full_synthetic
Thanks mate.

Paul.

[Parra]

ive been running the penrite oil since ive owned it, but supercrap had a special on nulon this week, so once my car is running again (damn you starter!) ill be swapping that in.

hope its not crap!

[Chaz]

Thanks Chaz, so are you using the SYNTHETIC 5 or the 0W50?
What change intervals do you recommend?
And did you have any oil usage issues like Ben-e-boy?

Is this it?

http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/engine-oils/hpr/hpr_5_full_synthetic
Thanks mate.

Paul.
Paul,
I'm using the SIN in 0W50 and change it at 10K intervals, but I don't have operational EGR.
I've never had a problem with oil consumption, which may be partly because my provent empties back into the sump. i used Mobil1 in 5W50 for many yeas without any issues as well, but the Penrite has slightly better viscosity hot.
Check out THIS (http://www.penriteoil.com.au/pis_pdfs/SIN%20Engine%20Oil%200.pdf) document.

[45/70]

Thanks Chaz.
Will give the SIN 0W50 a go next change.
At $75.00 for five lt, It still works out cheaper than the Nissan oil cause I will be changing oil every 10k instead of 5.
Thank's again for the info Chaz, much appreciated.

Paul.

[Chaz]

Thanks Chaz.
Will give the SIN 0W50 a go next change.
At $75.00 for five lt, It still works out cheaper than the Nissan oil cause I will be changing oil every 10k instead of 5.
Thank's again for the info Chaz, much appreciated.

Paul.

Paul,

The Penrite 0W50 is a good choice for a ZD30, but I wouldn’t use it in TB, TD or even RD motors. Penrite have changed their range slightly and THIS (http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/engine-oils/10-tenths-premium/premium_0) is the oil that I use. Most synthetic oil manufacturers suggest that you can triple your oil change intervals with fully synthetic oil, but personally I wouldn’t do that. 10K intervals work well for me and my oil starts to discolor if I leave it any longer. I also do all filters at the same time.

The Nissan oil specs are very hard to get, but I’d imagine they are very similar to Castrol Magnatec, so here is a comparison between the two of them and Delo400, another very popular oil for the ZD30.

Delo400 15W40
cSt at 40c 125
cSt at 100c 15.1
Viscosity Index 125

Magnatec 10W40
cSt at 40c 102
cSt at 100c 14.5
Viscosity Index 149

Penrite SIN 0W50
cSt at 40c 108
cSt at 100c 18.7
Viscosity Index 194

This shows that both the Magnatec and Penrite are quite thin when cold (40c), but the Penrite doesn’t thin out as much at operating temperature (100c). It also shows that the SAE rating means very little when it comes to the viscosity index. The fully synthetic oil clearly doesn’t break down as much at operating temps and flows much easier when cold.

[45/70]

Thanks Chaz.
I have printed off the data sheet for the 10 tenths premium 0, so now I will keep my eyes peeled for a good price.
Thanks mate:bigthumbup:

Paul.

[bazzad]

Hi all, I have been using Castrol GTX for years with no problems. Just remember when your out bush somewhere and you need oil. Any oil is good oil :biggrin:

[bastardo]

Hi all i got delo 400 today wow $85 for 20 l $86 for filters oil and fuel littel job this weekend thanks ynot oil from rocklea QLD

Hi Cossy,
Im in South Brisbane area, could you let me know where ya found the oil at?
Thanks

[pominozjohn]

I did a bit of research for My GQ and discovered that it requires a high ash ( calcium) oil and found that Shell Rimula R3x 15w 40 ( JASO DH-1 , CH-4) is suitable for my TD42 and is also available in 20L drums from Supercheap for only $89 ( May 2012). Apparently the JASO DH-1 is for earlier Japanese Diesel engines and only a few of the available oils satisfy these requirements. Delo 400 is another one that does. Hope this helps

[holden4th]

To paraphrase all these posts, if I use any of the following in my GUIV '04 3.0 Di I will be fine.

Magnatec 15w40
Shell Rimula 15w40
Caltex Delo 400 multi grade.

I know where to get the Magnatec from but where would I source the Delo400. I live on the Gold Coast and while I'm prepared for a bit of a drive I don't want to go too far if I don't have to.

Thanks for all advice

[Sir Roofy]

to paraphrase all these posts, if i use any of the following in my guiv '04 3.0 di i will be fine.

Magnatec 15w40
shell rimula 15w40
caltex delo 400 multi grade.

I know where to get the magnatec from but where would i source the delo400. I live on the gold coast and while i'm prepared for a bit of a drive i don't want to go too far if i don't have to.

Thanks for all advice

try a caltex depot shaw to be one around you or look up there web site

[Fred Schenck]

My Nissan dealer recommends Castrol Magnatec Diesel 15w/40 I get the 10L drum for $78. Has been fine for me.

[Buschmaster]

Mobile 1 is a realy good brand ! and there are some oil selectors youl find on google !

[holden4th]

I went with the Shell Rimula and it has certainly made everything a lot smoother and quieter. Thanks for all the advice.

[forby.ken]

Its the best and safest oil to use I use it in my Gu 3litre diesel series 3 02 is nissan oil its a specail blend specailly for 3 litre patrol 10/40 synethic blend you wont have turbo problems when you use that oil i use it from new and 227,000 kms its just run in . Cheers forby.ken

[Superoo]

I use Caltex C3 synthetic which isn't cheap but from the first drive the motor ran a lot quiter and it had more power as well.
Very impressed.
Cheers.

[walkal]

Delo 400 for me

[PATmyROL]

Try these links for a caltex depot in your area. Hope that helps.

Qld- http://www.seqifs.com.au/depot-locations.html
South East Oz- http://www.caltex.com.au/sites/CaltexEnergyse/Pages/OurLocations.aspx

[TUCK]

Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 for the GU 2.8. Very happy with the change.

Heres a link if any one wants more info.
http://www.mobiloil.com/usa-english/motoroil/oils/mobil_1_turbo_diesel_truck_5w-40.aspx

[lufkin]

Is the delo 400 fine for the gu 2.8?

[lufkin]

^anyone? Cheers

[stock patrol]

This thread is a little old now but I use Penrite 5W-40 semi synthetic oil in 3l and though change it at 5,000k intervals it remains quite clean compaired to the old 10W-40/ 15W-40 oils I used to use.

[dsmith]

I use Delo 400 @90ish for 20L. Even the old Delo Gold $88/20L is higher specs that required for a TD42T.

[tassie wombat]

has anyone used this? BP VANELLUS MULTI-FLEET 15w40

[nissannewby]

TD42 the spec is- API CC, CD, CE, CF, CF-4 or JASO DH-1*1. There will be a spec like that in your owners manual as long as the oil you have is to that spec then no worries.

[dsmith]

It just goes to show how basic and old the TD42 is when the minimum recommended oil grade is CC!! Having said that I wouldn't have it any other way. I checked the valve clearance on my td42t the other day for the fist time in 3 years. Spot on a 0.35mm, can't argue about that.

[tassie wombat]

i got this from the bp web site.its what they are recomending for the 4.2 td gu.but it doesnt mention the numbers you listed?????

Vanellus Multi-Fleet


Mid-ash SAE 15W-40 multigrade diesel engine oil that is the perfect logistical solution as a versatile mixed fleet oil, incorporating the latest advancements in lubricant technology to provide maximum performance on a wide variety of heavy duty diesel engines. Specially developed to give a high level of performance and protection for a wide range of European Heavy Duty Diesel Engines including those engines complying with the stringent Euro 3 and Euro 4 emission standards.

SAE 15W-40, API CI-4, CH-4, ACEA E7, E5, Global DHD-1, Cat ECF-2, Volvo VDS-3, MB Approval 228.3, Mack EO-M Plus, MTU type 2 approved

Applications

• US and Japanese heavy duty diesel engines, European engine technology requiring ACEA E7, E5, and Euro 3 and Euro 4 emission standards back to

[tassie wombat]

any thoughts??

[Jamesandlizk]

I too am using Nulon 15 40. In a 99 GU 2.8lt TD.
bit smoky on start up but car sounds and runs great.

[threedogs]

Just reading through this thread, seems to me that different oils run better in different engines, what may be ok for one is no good for another.
The Delo400 seems to be most popular followed by Penrite 0w50' Also most are not taking into account if the EGR is blocked or not, this is
extending service intervals. I'll use Penrite next oil change to try as been using Nissan oil till now. This post concerns Z30 only as that was
what I was reading.

[Ronin]

Took my Simpson Editon for its first service and while I was there spoke to the service manager and they use Valvoline 10w40 semi synthetic oil.

So I am thinking I should stick to it for my 5k oil change.

[chevracer383]

I use Valvoline Durablend 10w-40 (DuraBlend SAE 10W-40 is a semi-synthetic motor oil formulated with a combination of synthetic and premium quality base stocks and advanced additive technology. DuraBlend 10W-40 meets the stringent ACEA A3/B3 specification for European vehicles) in my GUIII 3.0l. Valvoline Synpower is a full synthetic option. You can also use Engine armour which is from Valvoline as well.

All I can say is that this is a good quality oil that is the correct grade for my vehicle and I have had no adverse effects from using it.

[matto9018]

Just brought 08 CRD... What oil is best for it?? I used delo400 in my old girl in 3L Di.. I reckon it's too thick for CRD at 57,000kms??

Cheers

[killercat]

Having been using Valvoline 5-40 synpower with local Nissan dealers blessing, seems to be an excellent high quality oil.

[mudski]

Castrol Magnatec Diesel here. Engine is much quieter now at start up compared to the Mobil junk that was used in this car prior...What Mobil was used? I dunno on that.

[Shannow]

A mechanic told me that Nissan had issued advice reducing the 15,000 km or 7,500 kms engine oil and filter changes to 10,000 kms or 5,000 kms for severe conditions.

He definitely didn't like the Nissan ZD30 engine or any Nissan for that matter. He defined severe conditions as all normal Australian motoring. He ( cynically? ) suggested something like the idea that in the case of the ZD30 engine, 10,000 kms may be ok if;

- the vehicle was driven constantly for 10,000 kms unloaded;
- never stopped;
- on flat bitumen road;
- engine never exceeded 2,200 RPM or idled more than 30 seconds each hour, and;
- outside air temperature constantly between 15 and 20 degrees C.

Anything different must be considered severe for the ZD30.

Hi, new to this forum, but a,m taken aback by those comments.

I've done used oil analysis on my ZD30 Navara, and it's pretty easy on the oil.

These are the 50,000, and 60,000 km results, each with 10,000km on the oil. Oil was Castrol Magnatec SP 5W-40 (second one had an additive, SX-Up in it).

All values in mg/l, first is this test, second last test, final the alarm.
Aluminium...5.........5.....20
Calcium....2625.....2971
Chromium....<0.1.....0.4....10
Copper.......3........4.....25
Iron.........29......51.....70
Lead.........2........1.....25
Nickel.......<1.......0......3
Phosphorus...694.....728
Silicon......14......15.....15
Sodium........4.......1.....30
Tin...........1.......2.....35
Zinc.........892.....940

FTIR to ASTM E2412
Water........0.021....0.035..0.15 (%w/w)
Soot.........0.013....0.017..0.25
Oxidation......15......13.8...50
Nitration......4.74.....7.26..25
TBN............10.6....10.28 (mg KOH/g)
Fuel Dilution...0.5.....0.5....3.5

All except silicon say that the oil could have gone 40,000 km without upset.

[Shannow]

as to what oil to run, Nissan are emphatic on "nothing better than CF-4", which rules out nearly any proper diesel oil for the ZD30, leaving you with "petrol" engine oils to play with.

I've used
Mobil 1 0W-40 (sold as turbodiesel in Europe, as they use the ACEA ratings, not the API)...best mileage since the original factory fill.
Castrol Magnatec SP 5W-40, which gave the great Oil analysis results above.
Castrol Edge 0W-40 - bad fuel consumption
Recently Mobil 3000 5W-40, with a litre of Motul Estertech 10W-40 in it.

All seems to have worked, as here's the view down the oil hole at 100,000km on the donk.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/akashafamily/c0fb1716.jpg

This 100,000km change, I've switched to Supercheap Auto "Calibre" 5W-30, which is less than $50 for 5.5L. It's actually Caltex 5W-30 C-3 in a supercheap bottle, and has some pretty good approvals, predominantly ACEA specs. And the newer ZD30s spec 5W-30.

It's a very "thick" 30, having a High Temperature High Shear of over 3.5 mPas, which is the realm of 40 weights usually.

As to the older engines, Supercheap's Calibre diesel 15W-40 is actually Caltex Delo Gold Ultra, which is made using Chevron's "Isosyn" basestocks - can be run in petrol engines too, so is an absolute bargain.

Might try Atlantic Oil's 10W-30, as it meets even more specs than the Calibre 5W-30.

[Shannow]

A great tool to check what an oil should be capable of, based on the specifications that it's approved to.

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/lubrizol/EOACEA2009/RPTOOL2010Dep/rp/pc/index.html

Get the relevant product data sheet from the oil companies website, plug them in, and see how it looks compared to others.

[Shannow]

Gary,

I wouldn’t be too concerned with the manufacturers “W” rating because there is no real standard for it. In some cases you will find a 15W oil to be thinner than a 10W oil between different manufacturers. Check the cSt ratings on the oils spec sheets to get an accurate idea on a particular oils viscosity because there is a standard between manufacturers in this case where they must quote cSt levels at 40 and 100 degrees Celsius (cold start and operating temps). Delo 400 Multigrade would be ideal in your case, particularly if you do a lot of highway driving.

Not to be argumentative, but the xW has very precise specs, and it must meet those specs to get the cold pumping xW on it...and most of those are well below zero C.

The 40C viscosity doesn't have anything to do with the xW spec, particularly as most people in the world never have a 40C Cold Start.

[PMC]

G'day my fellow off-road lounge lizards!

I use AMSOIL Full Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil in conjunction with a Franz oil bypass system. I have used this system for 11 years with my old GQ,GU 4.2 Turbo diesels, D22 Navara,D40 2.5 manual diesel Navara and currently with my 2002 4.2TD. The oil is lot more expensive, however oil change intervals is at 20,000 ks. During 20,000ks, i use a test kit to check oil every 5,000ks whilst replacing the oil bypass filter. I change main oil filter at 10,000 ks. When changing oil filters i just top up the oil that' required usually half a litre. Even at 20,000ks my oil test results still advise that the oil is OK.

The reason why i use AMSOIL is due to towing a camper trailer and boat up and down beaches and some of the serious tracks my mates and i use on the weekends at Coffs Harbour. Due to producing excessive heat under load, it is imperative to use an engine oil than can help disapate the heat and maintain engine performance. The following is a bio on AMSOIL synthetic oils;

"First of all, let's take a brief look at the history of synthetic motor oil and its introduction to the marketplace. AMSOIL Inc. developed the first synthetic motor oil to meet API service requirements. Lieutenant Colonel Albert J. Amatuzio, President and CEO of AMSOIL Inc. witnessed synthetic lubricants in action as a jet fighter squadron commander. He noted that synthetic oils were developed for (and still are used exclusively in) aircraft jet engines because of their ability to reduce friction and wear on engine parts. This preformance was due to synthetic oil having incredible ability to function dependably at severe hot and cold temps as well as to withstand rigorous and lengthy engine operation without viscosity breakdown. This is critical in aircraft engine operation because, if oil breaks down at 30,000 feet, aircraft engines can fail and ... well, you get the picture. Amatuzio decided that he would develop synthetic motor oil to be used in automobiles for the same benefits. In 1972 AMSOIL introduced the first motor oil for automotive applications. In the early seventies, another company was also working on synthetic oil development for the automobile ... Mobil Oil Company. They came to market with synthetic motor oil in 1975. By the 1990's the other major oil companies added their synthetic oils to the marketplace, in addition to their petroleum-based products.

What are the pros and cons of using synthetic oil in my car?

Pros:

•It flows easier in cold weather, therefore no loss of prime when the oil is cold. Also, it is highly resistant to viscosity breakdown (the ability of the oil to flow easily in all temps) from heat, friction, chemical contaminants.

•Longer change intervals: 7,000 - 9,000 miles between oil changes (compared to 3,000 for regular oil). Some folks have documented up to 25K miles between changes. However, I would not advice going that long!

Cons:

• Cost is twice as much as conventional oil per litre. However it lasts longer, so the actual cost increase is closer to 50 - 60 percent.

•Flows easily, therefore not recommend for use on high mileage engines; nor do I recommend using it in new engines during the break-in period because it is so slippery and dramatically limits the wearing of new mating parts within the engine. This initial wearing of parts is what makes for proper engine break-in, sealing of piston rings, mating of camshafts and lifters, etc.

Does it make my engine last longer?

Yes, because its so slippery, synthetic makes for less engine wear and thus greater engine longevity."

Like anything in life, you must research the facts. Eliminate the 80% of bullshit to help obtain the 20% of facts. the 80/20 rule.

PS, this is only my opinion!

Regards RLI

[threedogs]

Does anyone run REDLINE oil,????
Thinks its $450 for first oil change and good for 100k

[megatexture]

if someone ran that and didnt have a catch can imagin the crud in the oil after 100k even after doing filter every 5-10k no thanks lol

[Jol]

I always go Penrite or Nulon. Their websites have a good search by model and year which lists all recommended fluids for your vehicle (except beer for the driver).

[Lister]

Not to be argumentative, but the xW has very precise specs, and it must meet those specs to get the cold pumping xW on it...and most of those are well below zero C.

The 40C viscosity doesn't have anything to do with the xW spec, particularly as most people in the world never have a 40C Cold Start.

Just so we are clear, The "W" Stands for "weatherly"(name of a guy) not winter. Its an American Petroleum Institute (API) standard. The Lower number in your multigrade viscosity index indicates the oil will be "NO THINNER"(in other words, always thicker than) than 15 when its COLD in a 15w-40 (Knowing that oil thins as it gets warm and thickens when it cools). The higher number means it will be no "thicker" than 40 when its HOT. The general understanding is usually that the lower number is cold start, this incorrect, if it were, then a 0w-50 Full Esther based synthetic oil would provide ZERO lubrication or atleast as much as water and we all know this aint right.

Information here has been taken from Valvoline and Pennzoil training ....
Cheers Glenn

[Safari Njema]

Cat DEO 15W-40 - good stuff

[ssoac]

I use to have a Toyo-VAN, where in some places was called Toyota Tarago, and I switched from regular OIL to synthetic and I can tell you the difference was like from Hell to Heaven. I switch to my Patrol 3.0 like a year ago, and I wasn't sure which OIL to use, I started with the CASTROL multigrade 15w-40, which has been working quite ok, but from my experience with my other Car CASTROL burns fast with HIGH temp CARs like my old Toyo and like my new Patrol. I will see if I can find AMSOIL around my place ( I live in Costa Rica). Thanks for the sharing and good information.

[Robo]

Oh thanks it's lubesonline. I was trying NissPat link http://www.luesonline.com.au/

My firewall has detected malware with lubesonline site.

[Robo]

Just so we are clear, The "W" Stands for "weatherly"(name of a guy) not winter. Its an American Petroleum Institute (API) standard. The Lower number in your multigrade viscosity index indicates the oil will be "NO THINNER"(in other words, always thicker than) than 15 when its COLD in a 15w-40 (Knowing that oil thins as it gets warm and thickens when it cools). The higher number means it will be no "thicker" than 40 when its HOT. The general understanding is usually that the lower number is cold start, this incorrect, if it were, then a 0w-50 Full Esther based synthetic oil would provide ZERO lubrication or atleast as much as water and we all know this aint right.

Information here has been taken from Valvoline and Pennzoil training ....
Cheers Glenn

I think I'm reading you correctly as saying 0w is as good as water to lubricate.
If not,other may think so, no offence just want to clarify.
If so m2cw, .
0w is it's ability to flow.
It does not relate to how well the oil lubricates the engine at all.
Others have sorta touched on this.
never lower than and never higher than, but in it's ability to flow only.

m2c it's all the special additives "addpacs" as the industry likes to call em, that make the difference.
And if the oil is left for to long the addpacs can wear out and protection is lost.

And then even if you run a good filter and bypass in combination addpacs still wear out.
you can even purchase bypass filters now that have slow release addpacs to extend oil's life span.
Though running these type of filters it's still recommended to test oil for addpacs, stability and contamination.
the old castrol add, " Oils anit oil sol".
there is a huge amount of info on web about oils.
here's a couple http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html.
this particular link cover alot of info the people here would like to read.
Black soot, mineral and syn it covers alot of other stuff to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/API_gravity
cheers

[threedogs]

@ Mega Roon Moon runs Redline oil in his extended 4.2 GU wagon.
the oil was analysed after 100k and was still at spec levels. its not for everyone,
and I believe Ron does have a catch can, service intervals are extended as well but not sure
how long between filter changes.

edit:: I use Penrite 5/40 fully synthetic very happy

[mudski]

Castrol Gtx Magnatec Diesel for me in coz thats what Castrol recommend. But will be changing to RX Super soon and many here use and hype about Delo400 which Castrols equivalent is Rx which I can get cheap.

[nissannewby]

@ Mega Roon Moon runs Redline oil in his extended 4.2 GU wagon.
the oil was analysed after 100k and was still at spec levels. its not for everyone,
and I believe Ron does have a catch can, service intervals are extended as well but not sure
how long between filter changes.

edit:: I use Penrite 5/40 fully synthetic very happy



I feel there would be more to this than just the oil. It doesn't matter how good it is once its dirty, it's dirty. A good diesel oil keeps your engine clean while still being able to maintain its lubrication properties. To keep it in spec there would surely be extra filtration used like the franz one mentioned earlier (toilet roll style).

[Dales300exc]

Delo 15w/40

[bigfut]

I feel there would be more to this than just the oil. It doesn't matter how good it is once its dirty, it's dirty. A good diesel oil keeps your engine clean while still being able to maintain its lubrication properties. To keep it in spec there would surely be extra filtration used like the franz one mentioned earlier (toilet roll style).
I remember reading an article on this. He installed an extra aftermarket in line oil filter that cost an arm and a leg to achieve these intervals.

[Beni C]

What are people recommending to chuck in CRD?

About to do the 105000 service.

Previously I have always ran Penrite in my vehicles and have been happy with the performance.

[Robo]

I feel there would be more to this than just the oil. It doesn't matter how good it is once its dirty, it's dirty. A good diesel oil keeps your engine clean while still being able to maintain its lubrication properties. To keep it in spec there would surely be extra filtration used like the franz one mentioned earlier (toilet roll style).

I run a Franz In my GTR as a bypass and it certainly works very well.
the amount of soot it captures is surprising.
Seeing RB26 motor cost about 18k , I recon its justified.

[Matchbox]

I use Delo multi 400 in the 3l

[macca]

@ Mega Roon Moon runs Redline oil in his extended 4.2 GU wagon.
the oil was analysed after 100k and was still at spec levels. its not for everyone,
and I believe Ron does have a catch can, service intervals are extended as well but not sure
how long between filter changes.

edit:: I use Penrite 5/40 fully synthetic very happy

That Ron Moon Dude was changing filters regularly and sending a sample off each time. The tested sample was still good so he kept using it.
I don't know if he had any other filtration as well as or replaced the OEM filters.

Here's a link, he did have an extra dunny roll filter.
http://motoring.ninemsn.com.au/cars/4x4-australia/reviews/2011/02/product-test-red-line-long-life-oil

A dunny roll filter on eBay,
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BYPASS-OIL-FILTER-JACKMASTER-CLASSIC-Standard-full-kit-with-hoses-fittings-/261177806690?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ccf690f62

I'm a Penrite user too 15W50 Semi Synthetic, seems OK and I think an Australian company

[Krzysiek79krzysiek]

I was recently changing the oil in my 3.0d GU4 2005 and was looking / reading a lot in the nissan manuals about it. It needs to go with "turbo diesel" oil and as far as API it depends what is the coldest and hotest temp around your area of driving. I am leaving in Poland where during winter (Jan-Feb) we can have -30C and during sommer months (Jun-Jul) it goes up to 35C ... So it is recomended to use 5W40 - and I used this time Castrol Magnatec Diesel 5W40, though it is C3 type not B3 - but same CF type so good for diesel engine with turbo. I know from these Guys (who are maintaining mostly patrols) that with Castrol GTX and with Castrol Mgnatec (both diesel with turbo) they never had issues. They told me that for 3.0 CRD there is other than CF type but I don't remember now. It is the same if not more important if you use good quality oil filter not the cheapest one from ebay... and you need to take into consideration the outer conditions as well as driver - driving style. 10k kms and 1 year is not the only time you shall chng the oil.
Rgrds,
Krzysztof

[SG1]

Switched to Delo 400, Can get at the Traralgon Caltex Truck stop on princess highway (20L drums), have noticed a bit more blow by in the catch can since using it, seems quiter than when I had the penrite 10-40w semi synthetic but want to change to penrite 5-40w as then it would be all penrite oils in the vehicle or really considering the Castrol RX Super, still not sure which way to go..

[Ceason]

Thanks for post. I assume its good for non turbo engines.

[Bacho86]

Has anyone ever used or heard anything about BP Vanellus Multi-Fleet 15-40W?

I've booked in the patrol for a service at Outback 4wd in Bayswater, and after reading this thread was interested in what they recommended. As far as I can call the reason why they use it is becuase "they've got a couple large tanks out the back and it works real well"

Should I be concerned?

Cheers

http://www.bp.com/en_au/australia/products-services/lubricants/engine-oils.html

[threedogs]

Switched to Delo 400, Can get at the Traralgon Caltex Truck stop on princess highway (20L drums), have noticed a bit more blow by in the catch can since using it, seems quiter than when I had the penrite 10-40w semi synthetic but want to change to penrite 5-40w as then it would be all penrite oils in the vehicle or really considering the Castrol RX Super, still not sure which way to go..

I run Penrite 5-40 semi syn for diesels, combined with a dose of T2
every now and then I have no problems at all very happy

[mudski]

Switched to Delo 400, Can get at the Traralgon Caltex Truck stop on princess highway (20L drums), have noticed a bit more blow by in the catch can since using it, seems quiter than when I had the penrite 10-40w semi synthetic but want to change to penrite 5-40w as then it would be all penrite oils in the vehicle or really considering the Castrol RX Super, still not sure which way to go..

I used to sell Castrol a few moons ago now. I still keep in contact with the rep who's been there for donky's. RX Super is not recommended for the ZD30's but the rep was confident that I could use it. But I wasn't. So I have kept on with Magnatec Diesel 15w40. Been using that since day dot and start ups are really quiet and I catch around 150ml of oil in the catch can every 5k service. I did switch to Delo 400 a while back after reading all the hype. After using it for 3 services the motor, used a little oil, had more in the catch can and was noisy on start up. So I switched back and haven't looked back. SCA have the Magnatec on special at nearly half price every now and then on the 10L so I stock up when I can.
One thing you need to remember though is, if you do switch oils, stick at it for atleast two changes, minimum. As different oils use different additives and your motor will react differently maybe to not what you like. But it may settle down, give it a go...

But I wouldn't be using RX super in a ZD30. TD42? Hell yes!

[Trol3.0]

anyone use RX Rimula R4x? is it good for zd30?

[SG1]

Ok, so for the ZD30 its Delo 400, Penrite 5-40, or Magnatec 15-40, or Nissan oil..

Was confused as read some were running RX Super or thinking of switching to it soon/next service but have now realised they must be talking about the TD42.

Like the Delo and runs good but same found more in catch can than was expecting and used a small amount, might go the Penrite or Magnatec then, still got 500k's to decide.

[docp1980]

I'm using Castrol Magnatec 5-30W in my GU9 CRD. I used to use Magnatec 5-40W in my YD25 Navara and it ran beautifully.

[growler2058]

I gotta do an oil n filter change before the Aussie day meetup dunno what im gunna get now

[macca]

Been using Penrite 15W-50. At $72 for 10 litres it's pricey. I had a credit balance of $32 on my Supercheap car so grabbed some yesterday at near half price, schweet.

[mudski]

Been using Penrite 15W-50. At $72 for 10 litres it's pricey. I had a credit balance of $32 on my Supercheap car so grabbed some yesterday at near half price, schweet.

How good are those Club Plus Card Hey? One would be mad not to have one.

[macca]

Yeah, Ive probably scored 200 - 300 dollars easy from them.

[Trol3.0]

interesting to read:

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/nissan-patrol-gu-gr-10/zd30-oil-test-%406890km-8-months-see-results-239225/

[Sir Roofy]

interesting to read:

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/nissan-patrol-gu-gr-10/zd30-oil-test-%406890km-8-months-see-results-239225/

was a good read lot of oil testing though

[Rexzilla]

Been using Penrite for a long time in all my other cars with no issues, when it came to the patrol the choice was easy.

[4bye4]

Been using Penrite for everything for as long as I can remember. Just had a dealer service and I supplied the oil. Engine is smoother and quieter.

[SG1]

Decided on the Penrite HPR 5 semi syn 5-40w for the ZD30, hopefully it works out and looking forward to trying it, also means Penrite throughout the Patrol on all oils now.

[ako89]

Td42 penrite 15 40 full mineral

[Faviles]

Can you make 10,000km with 15W40 on a TD42?

[threedogs]

Decided on the Penrite HPR 5 semi syn 5-40w for the ZD30, hopefully it works out and looking forward to trying it, also means Penrite throughout the Patrol on all oils now.

I use the same and find it a great oil , I dont use any oil in between changes either
ZD30 as well with 220k on the clock

[Rex13]

Hi all,

Does anyone know where i cant get Caltex delo 400 oil in Sydney, i cant seem to find anywhere.

I found a place the sells Mobil Delvac MX 15/40 and they say thats it is as good as delo 400.

Im after 20ltrs

Cheers

Phil.

[nissannewby]

Anything that is ci-4 rated will be fine mate. Both the mobil and delo are the same spec.

[Lambroast]

Ok so I have an 09 ZD30 crd. After reading this thread I think I should be ok to use Castrol GTX diesel 15W40. Got onto a20L drum for about $70. Conforms to API CH-4/SJ. Also says suitable for turbo engines and not suitable for particulate filters.
Anyone got any reasons I shouldn't? Only a couple of guys on this thread use it.

Cheers
Simon.

[ForgeCreekFerals4x4]

Have used Penrite in the past. Found it smoked a bit more than I wanted. Now using Rimula X and no probs but will probably try Delo after I finish this drum. Seems to get a good wrap from a lot of people.

By the way, how do people base their opinions on the quality of the oils they're using?? Do they have their used oil analysed in a lab or is it just gut feeling? I don't know how you can tell unless it gets analysed.

None of the oils I have used in the past have affected engine sound, power, fuel economy, etc. (4.2 TD)

I had the same issue with penrite, I'm running castrol GTX now and she seem to like that much better. about $120 for a 20L a supercheap bought one two days ago. Interesting bit of knowledge too, is I have a mate who works in a workshop (mostly trucks) and they do lab tests all the time, most castrol oils always come back clean and surprisingly so does gulf western (I refuse to use this stuff though had a bad run out of it in my other 4by)

[mudski]

I had the same issue with penrite, I'm running castrol GTX now and she seem to like that much better. about $120 for a 20L a supercheap bought one two days ago. Interesting bit of knowledge too, is I have a mate who works in a workshop (mostly trucks) and they do lab tests all the time, most castrol oils always come back clean and surprisingly so does gulf western (I refuse to use this stuff though had a bad run out of it in my other 4by)
Yeah i run Castrol Magnatec Diesel in my td. I ran it in the zd so i thought i might keep on with the same oil. Although im temped to use Rx Super, its CI-4 plus rated, next time to see. As i can get this under $100 for 20ltrs...

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[ForgeCreekFerals4x4]

Yeah i run Castrol Magnatec Diesel in my td. I ran it in the zd so i thought i might keep on with the same oil. Although im temped to use Rx Super, its CI-4 plus rated, next time to see. As i can get this under $100 for 20ltrs...

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I saw that rx stuff the other day actually and nearly bought some but decided to stick with gtx. Whats the difference?

[gubigfish]

I've used the RX super in my GQ previously, a mate recommended it to me. They use it in Trucks and heavy machinery he reckons

[mudski]

I saw that rx stuff the other day actually and nearly bought some but decided to stick with gtx. Whats the difference?
Technical difference not sure. But there is two rx supers now. RX Diesel and RX Super plus, i think they are called.
Both CI-4 but the plus is CI-4 plus rated. From memory, RX Diesel is the old Rx Super formula and the Plus is Castrols new formula. So i think i will see how the plus goes next few services. You need to do a few services before you make your mind up as the motor needs to adjust to the new oil. But i did noticed with the magnatec it was quieter during the morning start up...
I worked in the transport industry from 1992 to 2011 and all we sold was Castrol, aswell as OEM oils. The name has changed a billion times over the years. But RX super we sold crap loads of this stuff. Its been around for yonks. Yeah there is plenty of other oils to chose from, you can even go synthetic if you wish, but at a quite marginal cost difference.
I suppose if i sold a different brand i would be biased for that brand...
I know and have used Castrol in every vehicle I've had so i stick with what I know i suppose.

[qwertytank]

Anyone know who stocks 20l of Delo 400 in Sydney?

[Biskit]

I have just read this thread from start to finish and I think that I can say that I am better informed although overwhelmed...
The DELO 400 seems to be an oil of choice, if you are going for a mineral oil and any number of the current synthetics also get an honourable mention.
I have always used less 'processed' oil (like gulf western or valvoline) but included an additive like Moreys oil or Flashlube (the oil additives).
I have always had good results with these (add it to any oil based product like auto trans/power steering fluid, engine, diff or box oils) but have not (yet) used it in a Turbo'd computer controlled oiler. (Let me add that I highly recommend these additives)
Has anyone else used these products, and if so, what experiences have you had?

[mudski]

I have just read this thread from start to finish and I think that I can say that I am better informed although overwhelmed...
The DELO 400 seems to be an oil of choice, if you are going for a mineral oil and any number of the current synthetics also get an honourable mention.
I have always used less 'processed' oil (like gulf western or valvoline) but included an additive like Moreys oil or Flashlube (the oil additives).
I have always had good results with these (add it to any oil based product like auto trans/power steering fluid, engine, diff or box oils) but have not (yet) used it in a Turbo'd computer controlled oiler. (Let me add that I highly recommend these additives)
Has anyone else used these products, and if so, what experiences have you had?

I tried the delo 400 in my old ZD30. I ran it for 3 services. I found my engine breathed heavier ( catch can had more oil in it) and the motor was noisy on morning start ups. So I went back to the Castrol Magnatec Diesel.

[garett]

i found colo heights servo has 20 L drums of delo for just under $100 i pick up a drum when the wife gets her wine....

[qwertytank]

I'm running Castrol Magnatec Diesel now and thought of giving the Delo 400 a run... But if it aint broke don't fix it!

[GeeYou8]

I have been a big fan of Penrite oils for a long time now, ever since someone convinced me to try it in my old HX Holden, made it quieter & stopped oil consumption completely.
I used HPR Diesel 15 (15-50) in my GU2 which was still running sweet when I sold it with 270000km on it.
The new Patrol has only had dealer service, the sticker 7 the invoice says they used Shell Helix, no other info. so I will use that for the 25000km change then back to the dealer for 30000 service.
My testament to Penrite is that I used the original HPR Diesel in my Hilux from 100000km to 320000km when I sold it and it did not consume oil & ran sweet. Like the HX the guy that bought it said it was the best one he had seen, gave me great bargaining power.

[vfamily]

hey GeeYou8 when I get my patrol serviced at Nissan I supply the oil so you don't get the dealers crap cheapo oil, I only use penrite and they deduct $90 off the capped price service cost because I supplied the oil just a thought :thumbup:

[GeeYou8]

hey GeeYou8 when I get my patrol serviced at Nissan I supply the oil so you don't get the dealers crap cheapo oil, I only use penrite and they deduct $90 off the capped price service cost because I supplied the oil just a thought :thumbup:
Sounds good, I will have to ask the dealer.
Due for service on time, only done 4000km, so might be just a home oil & filter change.
Graham

[Oversize]

My GU, Thelma, has done 560,000 ks. 2 years ago I changed to Penrite 5w-40 and I know the engine just feels right. She is my bread and butter so I do pamper her. Used to use Gulf Western but she likes Penrite. The 5w-40 is more expensive but I can stretch the changes out, that's the reason I changed. Often don't get home inside 8000 ks.

[bsteveo]

Just seen a mechanic for a service , supplied him with my left over 15w-40, and he almost had a fit . Showed me his book of engine specifications and oil info and shows that 10w-40 is the factory recommendation for the zd30, and that I should NEVER use mineral 15w and only synth 10w. According to him 15w can cause long term damage. But have had my trol for a year now and only been using 15w diesel specific. Can anyone shed some light and provide some input on their experiences with 10w (non diesel specific types, full synthetic )

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[LostBenji]

Penrite HPD 10W-40 semi-synth

Was doing 5K oil & filter changes. Oil comes out still way too good and clean, pushed back to 7500's, same, now settled on 10K intervals unless doing a big trip then done early.

[bsteveo]

Penrite HPD 10W-40 semi-synth

Was doing 5K oil & filter changes. Oil comes out still way too good and clean, pushed back to 7500's, same, now settled on 10K intervals unless doing a big trip then done early.
How long have you been using the penrite? Been looking into it for my next service. How's the price compared to say castrol for example ?

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[micktickner1980]

We only ever use CAT DEO 15W/40 in all of our diesels, the last TD42 I stripped after it had done 520000km from new and the bigends and mains were still in amazing condition. I was amazed at how good they looked.

I also send SOS3 Oil samples in to the CAT lab on each oil change to keep an eye on engine wear. They send back a detailed report with Its well worth the extra $30 for piece of mind.

[Sprock]

I've run Valvoline Engine Armour Diesel Synthetic 15w50 in myZD30 since Ive had it , it'd done 180,000kms when I got it - now it's done 260,000 . Was changing at 5000kms but oil was still good , done the last 3 services at 7500kms . Got last oil change sampled & was well within guidelines. Just noticed it's done 8500kms since last service ( I've had bigger issues to worry about ) & still hasn't burnt a drop going by the dipstick . Will change it this weekend though . EGR blocked , NADs kitted , catch can , chip etc & gets driven hard . Can't speak highly enough of the Valvoline oil . Usually about $70 for 10 litres but my missus got it at Supercheap last weekend & old mate scanned it through at $45 for 10lts 👍🏼 Bargain

[MudRunnerTD]

I've run Valvoline Engine Armour Diesel Synthetic 15w50 in myZD30 since Ive had it , it'd done 180,000kms when I got it - now it's done 260,000 . Was changing at 5000kms but oil was still good , done the last 3 services at 7500kms . Got last oil change sampled & was well within guidelines. Just noticed it's done 8500kms since last service ( I've had bigger issues to worry about ) & still hasn't burnt a drop going by the dipstick . Will change it this weekend though . EGR blocked , NADs kitted , catch can , chip etc & gets driven hard . Can't speak highly enough of the Valvoline oil . Usually about $70 for 10 litres but my missus got it at Supercheap last weekend & old mate scanned it through at $45 for 10lts 👍🏼 Bargain

I'd have thought you where buying it in Bulk for the truck mate?

[Sprock]

I do buy bulk engine oil for the truck - Atlantic oil . The specs are right for it to be run in the Patrol but I'm a bit sceptical on changing brands in engines when it runs sweet on the Valvoline & doesn't burn a drop even on extended service intervals ( as it's synthetic) . Same for the truck - the big Cummins doesn't burn a drop of oil between services . It's got a BIG program in it & is tuned up to within an inch of its life & works hard everyday so I'm more than happy with the Atlantic oils performance , That's what my boss has always used in it since it was rebuilt just before I started driving it for him , then when I bought it 12months later I did a deal with him going halves in the 1000lt IPC of the same oil so just stuck with it . Oil is funny shit - Cummins choice of oil was Valvoline Premium blue but lots of new Cummins engines were burning oil - change back to the standard Valvoline & the oil burning problems disappear. Every one has there own theories on oil but while each of my engines don't use any of their respective brands I'll leave it as it is . I Have thought about running the Atlantic oil in the Patrol purely for convenience but it's not that big a drama .